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Have not read the article yet - heading out in moments. However - the Atlantic is traditionally a conservative paper I believe. Though definitely not a fan of Trump - it is a very credible source from my experience. I'd be shocked if what you suggest is true and that they are spreading disinformation (lies and propaganda).... will see.

I have read most of the article and heard the interview yesterday on NPR. Very insightful on how the Trump campaign has like 3000 data points to narrow almost any ad to any segment of the population.

But there are other parts of the article that are darker and basically comes off to me it is a win at any cost-and yes, that includes straight up bs and disinformation.

They've "officially" endorsed 3 Presidential candidates. Hillary was the most recent.

I think they're more known for their literary work/side.

I'm not claiming lies so much as carefully selected information which supports an agenda. Read the article. *Shrug*

You didn't make one. Just playing the victim card again.

“Mayor De Blasio, the members of the NYPD are declaring war on you!” the Sergeants Benevolent Association wrote in a tweet. “We do not respect you, DO NOT visit us in hospitals. You sold the NYPD to the vile creatures, the 1% who hate cops but vote for you.

“NYPD cops have been assassinated because of you,” the tweet added. “This isn’t over, Game on!”


Another lib success story.
Thems the Facts Jack!

Do you have a link for this tweet? At least who tweeted it and when?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-union-declares-war-on-mayor

A link to the article ... i looked for a link on msnbc and cnn but for some reason this story didn’t make there absolutely loaded front page ... not that this is newsworthy or anything ...

The worst part bro ,,,, there telling cops in NY to not wear there uni’s or anything that references the NYPD on it during there off time cause they will be making themselves targets ...

How sad is that .... talk about upside down ...

Thanks for the link. I knew that de Blasio ticked off the cops when he was first elected but I didn’t realize he was still hated.

That isn't good.

Neither does it have ANYTHING to do with the subject of the thread.

Nice deflection though 👍

This gonna get real real ugly soon ... and that’s a good thing ... the left has vilified every cop in America cause of a few POS ... sweet ..


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To the 100 plus cops who turned out for the arraignment of the attempted cop-killer who ambushed our fellow NYPD officers this weekend, & every cop on the job, keep your head on a swivel and watch each other’s backs. Our politicians don’t support us, so we must support each other


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NYPD Commissioner Dermot Shea ripped the department’s sergeants’ union on Monday for tweets declaring “war” on Mayor Bill de Blasio following the shootings of two on-duty cops.

“One hundred percent that’s inappropriate,” said the top cop, addressing reporters as one of the wounded lawmen left Lincoln Hospital in The Bronx. “This is a time that we need to come together first and foremost.”

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Sergeants' union 'declares war' on de Blasio after cop shootings
After two Bronx cops were shot in less than 12 hours late Saturday into early Sunday — allegedly by the same career criminal, Robert Williams — the Sergeants’ Benevolent Association took to Twitter to make its ire against Hizzoner clear.

“Mayor de Blasio, the members of the NYPD are declaring war on you!” the union wrote in one tweet. “We do not respect you, DO NOT visit us in hospitals.”

Shea on Monday blasted the rhetoric as divisive.

“When you see a tweet like that, I think it’s wrong,” he said. “I think [SBA President] Ed Mullins should think before he tweets something like that because it’s not helpful.

“It’s not helpful to where we’re going and when you look at what the mayor does for this city, he’s been extremely supportive of the NYPD.”

He also said the tweets do not reflect the view of the department as a whole.

“That’s not the voice of the NYPD,” he said. “One hundred percent.

Meanwhile, City Hall pushed back Monday morning against the SBA’s tweets.

“Ed Mullins’ comments are absolutely reprehensible,” said mayoral spokeswoman Freddi Goldstein in a statement. “He clearly has forgotten his oath to protect and serve.

“While he threatens violence, the mayor remains focused on the safety of our officers and communities.”

what a mess.
and in so many different ways.

The commissioner that serves at the pleasure of the mayor backs the mayor publicly, go figure.

I think I have seen this episode of Blue Bloods before.

j/c:

These are just my personal opinions.

--I admire the perception of being a law enforcement officer much like I admire those in the military.

--I would like to be a cop because I would like to carry out justice and protect others.

--I could never be a police officer because of all the violence, hate, and bias that is directed their way.

--I have had run-ins w/the law. Mostly because of fist fights I have had w/others. Some cops were cool. Some cops were jerks. Kinda like the rest of society. Good and bad. My point is that is unwise to judge a the entire lot by the actions of a few.

--I think the media and many citizens present the police in a negative manner that is largely unfair. I do think there are idiot cops, just as there are ugly citizens, but to put a label on an entire group is hateful, biased, and ignorant.

--I get that the media and social media is all about trashing cops, but damn man.............do any of you understand just how dangerous it is to present an agenda that is anti-cop? Do any of you realize they are also real people w/families and other loved ones? Do any of you realize how they are far more often targets of senseless shootings than the other way around?

--Get ... off the political agenda for a moment and realize this is a "human" story. Get the bad cops off the street and get the bad folks off the street. Be human.

I can't imagine the thoughts that go through a cops head at this moment. Worried about being killed because of the uniform you wear for your job.

Here is the other thing that folks don't consider.

Let's say you are a cop and are called to an expensive hotel to investigate a crime or you are called to a high-priced neighborhood. Compare that to being called to the ghetto for a domestic dispute or some other crime.

Dudes..............put yourselves in those positions. LOl.....let's get real here.

I personally love poor people over rich people. I actually get along better w/blacks and other minorities than I do whites. But dawgs............safety wise...........I would feel safer in the rich neighborhood than the hood.

I'm not alone in that thinking. Hell, it's smart to keep your guard up. So now. put yourself in the cop's shoes. How you feeling when you go into the hood? Safe? Or not?

I wouldn't trust myself in some of the situations they get into not to shoot somebody that didn't need to be shot. That and I would have to be in my 20s-30s again.

While the right tries to make it sound like the left should keep silent about bad cops. I haven't seen the left to try "vilify good cops". That's more perception than fact.

I see at least one good thing about that ticket, we'd have two guys at the top that can't be bought.... LOL

I just realized just how over your head 0 + 0 = 0 actually is ...

WOW ...

It speaks volumes that you only attempt math with single digits. Therein lies the problem.

Tell me bro when is the last time the left ever, ever talked about good cops?

The right will change it's tune when the bad cops turn on them. When cops start busting heads on the 2Aers, REDHATers, and Racists... the right will wail.

I do all the time.
I grew up in a blue household. Local cops were my extended fam.

I will also call out bad cops, racial profiling and bad policy when I see it.

Those two coexist quite comfortably in me.
Generalizations don't serve you very well, bro.

Ok GM, there's one.

All the time. Every news organization accept the most liberal of sources speaks about the good works of the police all the time.

That's the problem. according to many, if it isn't FOX News, it's liberal.



So I guess my question to you would be, who is it you consider liberal?

The liberal controlled media sure has a lot of good cop vs bad guy shows airing and streaming 24-7 these days. What are you talking about?

Don't be silly man. Your ambidextrous not a lefty.

The guy who responded to me right after you did.

Did you see the episode I was on

Generally speaking, you’re on them all right?

If you are on Twitter, look for @NYC PBA. It's the verified Police Benevolent Association twitter account. They roast DeBlasio on the daily. Just scroll through their stuff.

I'm not going to scroll all the way back and find the one you are asking for but here is a more recent example.

. Naa I do what the cops tell me. I can disagree in court.

Thanks DC. Diam got me to the tweet. This is a sad situation all around.

It is. I know that a lot of towns and cities have a bit of animosity between law enforcement and politicians..... but this seems to have reached a very dangerous extreme.

Facts matter true and so does context.

A virtually nonexistent portion of America complained about Obama.

Virtually every major news organization and the entirety of the Democratic partisans have spewed vitriol at an unprecedented rate on Trump. That's just talk, not even talking about Mueller and impeachment, all of which was political theater.

Obama deserves credit where it's due, but the establishment media would have crowned him king if they could. While the same media wouldhave Trump drawn and quartered.


"Wholly ignorant" is just more of the same type of partisan nonsense.

The only difference here is that the GOP actually thinks they can crown Trump as king. And so far they're pretty close to being right.

O definetly deserved the Nobel peace prize .... 100% legite ...

What nonsense is this? Virtually non existent portion of the USA complained about Obama. Funny how many of you crow about Fox viewership numbers when it's one argument then claim that 'all the media' is liberal in the next argument.

There's plenty of discussions and posts showing the media bias in the USA and how it's split left and right and center.... Maybe a lot of what you call left is really just factual centrist news reporting that you don't like? Or maybe you just make up a comment like that to try and make an argument/debate. idk.... but I do know that there was non stop press bashing Obama from the color of his suit to every aspect of everything he ever did.

lol k bud, good chat