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His arm length is in the 63rd percentile for offensive linemen.

Not trying to be disagreeable, but Wirfs was apparently not even the best LT at Iowa. Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz, who was Belichick's OL coach here, thought Alaric Jackson should be his starting LT.

I believe the LT could not play RT and Wirfs could. It made the Iowa OL much better to have Wirfs at RT and Jackson at LT than vice versa.

I stand corrected - that is apparently the case according to this article. Should have checked first.

https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/browns-mav...n-wirfs-ot-iowa

I hope we draft Albert Okwuegbunam just so I can hear Doug Deiken try to figure out the pronunciation.

Simmons

Simmons. It's tough to pass on (what could be) a talented corner, but Simmons is a game-changer. He would do more to neutralize Lamar than Okudah would, and that is important.

I would take good corners every chance I get. Over every position on defense. Having more than three good corners is essential in the NFL now. The best defenses get pressure 30% of the time, what happens the other 70%?

Honestly, I hope Simmons is off the board because I think he would mess up our plan to protect Baker with one of the top OL.

As far as the Simmons vs. Okunda Delima, in this case, I take Simmons. He gives you TE coverage that we have problems with. He can force or fill depending on where he plays in run defense. He can play deep middle, so this is more pass coverage value. He can spy a QB like Jackson when asked to. He can rush the passer especially with stunts and delayed blitzes. I'd love to have him if I knew he had an adequate answer at LT.

Thomas is my man. A 3 year LT starter and there is a good chance he is sitting there at #10.

Zack Braun

Cleveland

I'm hoping he's gone because I'm hoping we trade down and I wouldn't want to trade down if he's on the board.

j/c:

Mind boggling.

Why would you want to trade down. I can understand when we were a crappy team with no personnel. . You trade down guys kill me.. You would think you would learn your lesson over the years. Trading down is 6-10, 7-9 BS.

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/new-england-patriots/curran-why-patriots-may-trade-down

https://patriotswire.usatoday.com/2017/0...k-in-nfl-draft/

https://247sports.com/nfl/new-england-pa...polo-131669268/

The most passive aggressive away to call someone out.

It was a joke.

If he’s there with our second round pick I’d strongly consider taking him.

Shenault is going to be playmaker in the NFL.

Wills over Thomas for me just based on brand Ala over Georgia and feel same way over SEC vs BG10...I'd love Simmons, but sure hope Cleveland rumors are wrong....don't like his physical stuff..really want a solid LT prospect and believe front office when they stated LT vs RT...both have got to be good/decent cuz D will seek the weak link....GO Browns!!!

I agree .. I don’t want Cleveland.

I want Thomas most because I think he’s the best LT

I think, no I hope, Thomas is there at #10 and we take him

j/c

Guys I'm warm on and would like if they land at the right slot for us -

OT's - Thomas (at 10) or Josh Jones (not at 10).
LB/S - Simmons - if he falls to us or it doesnt take more than a couple low/mid round picks.
LB - Willy Gay Jr - Logan Wilson
S - Delpit - Winfield - Chinn - Davis ... any in that order of preference.
OG - Jonah Jackson

Becton/Wirfs/Simmons

Any of those three and I will be happy as a clam.

I don't trust the Becton pick, but if that's who we end up with, while I won't like it, I will keep an open mind about it.

I just never like Top 10 picks that don't look Top 10 during the season.
He wasn't on ANYONE's radar until he and his agent released his hype/highlight video of him pancaking guys.

Clams are only happy at high tide - I just looked it up. Think I'll go watch the grass grow again.

I think Bone said it somewhere - he (Becton) seems like the highest ceiling and the biggest bust guy ... I'm trying to think of any player in recent memory that shot up draft boards due to combine/athletic freakness who went on to realize their "potential" .... Maybe Shazier? .... But there are more players like Johnathan Ross and Kyle Boller that spring to life. Heck even a guy like Laquon Treadwell who isn't a total bust but got taken well ahead of where he desrved because of his huge catch radius and "measurables"

I'd steer clear personally. He worries me more than he excites me.

J/C

I’ve spent a bit more time today looking at where guys “should” fall.

If we could end up with:

- Thomas at 10
- Winfield in the 2nd
- the LB from Wyoming in the 3rd

That’s my dream

I think it was the combine that put him on the map, but yeah...

No, the noise about him started with the video around New Year's, then the combine added to the noise and "solidified" the highlight video.... despite the hype not being validated by the tape during the season.

He's literally a product of the off-season.

I really don't think that Jones is going to be there in the 2nd.

Possibly one of Austin Jackson or Ezra Cleveland.

But Jones? Na, he's a 1st round pick. Probably top 20

As Petey just said - I think Jones is gone in round 1.

In many ways Jones is the OT I would like to land if we can find a way to get him in the mid 20's .... I think he fits the O that we are going to run, I think his run blocking is very good and his pass blocking is very coachable and can improve.

And I am still in overwhelmingly in favor of a trade for Williams and taking Simmons or Brown or trading down for the best S or LB in the mid 20's. Not more than the 97 pick this year. Ideally the 4th round pick and a 4 or 5 next year.

I heard one of the draft gurus, I think it was either Daniel Jeremiah or Dane Brugler, say that he thought 7 OT might be taken in the first round. I assume that means Becton, Thomas, Wills, Wirfs, Jones, Jackson, and Cleveland are all gone before we pick again at 41. Better come out of the first round with a LT, or else plan to trade for Trent Williams or sign Jason Peters.

If we got good compensation and picked up Jones in the Mid-20's i'd be all for it.

Don't see that happening. I think he'll go Top-20. Just have to look at team's LT situations to really make that call

Too much.

Contrary to popular belief, the Skins are not in the driver's seat.

They ARE taking a tackle, they are NOT going to get to play Trent this year. The pressure to unload him is all on them.

Furthermore, when you look at who would be willing to trade a pick AND has the cap space to sign Williams (or just take his current contract as-is), there aren't many potential suitors.

Actually, we just might be the only player in the game. Given that, there is zero reason to panic-shop. Never bid against yourself.

IF we even bother making the trade during this draft, then wait until after our 3rd round pick to even call them, and then offer our 5th. Aside from that, wait until after the draft, or at least Day 3, and do it for a day 3 pick or a 2021 pick.


For only a 5th, I wouldn't even care about re-working his contract. I'd take him on a one-year rental for a 5th.

We don't have a 5th this year.

Fine... a 6th.