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You certainly love to pick and choose about what you consider to be or not to be a part of "God's plan".

Who grants you the divine wisdom to know which is which?

That's what I thought.....

So?

I don’t agree with most of what most mega churches teach, but that is their constitutional right

The reason I don’t agree with most of the teachings of most mega churches is because of the teachings that makes them popular, makes them mega churches

I do not believe in health and wealth Gospel. It is not the foundation Christ laid. He said “take up your cross and follow me”. Christianity is not a means to gratify our flesh

Are you familiar with biblical covenants? Remember the cast the first stone verse. That applies here

We’re the People in Salem under the old or new covenant?

Its funny, when it comes to god, Christians always say "god gives all and delivers all" "god is all powerful and willing" "god if good" "everything is gods plan", yet when its something bad - its not gods fault.

Its rather amusing.

Good things are always attributed to god
Bad things are never attributed to god - even when the bible states it was god that did it.

Yet all them priest were gratifyin' their flesh every week. . . .

Funny how the church always hand out those collection plates too, you know - to gratify and all.

Sorry that we don’t believe in a simplistic, puppet world, as James White would call the alternative to what you are trying to refute

If God always restrained our wills, we would not be humans, we would be automatons, puppets. Or child’s dolls that say “I love you” when God pulls the string

No Christian believes such nonsense

are you against free will offerings?

Btw, most people give online in this day and agE

Now if the money is used selfishly, it’s wrong. But churches I’ve been to have a budget statement that is provided to all members.

Also, if offerings are bad because sometimes they’re abused, so are taxes which are sometimes abused. Not that I’m against taxes, just preventing another fallacious argument.

Ah, like you did with the democratic party. Got it.

God has nothing to do with Man's morality. It would be up to you to prove otherwise.

As for me backing up what I said ... no dude - that's you just being confused. Again - please don't lie about what I did or didn't say. You twist everything else - don't twist what I say/said.

I keep trying to go away, because Portland keeps complaining. Are you guys going to keep this up much longer?

Pit, if you as a Christian don’t believe the Bible, That’s an issue you have to deal with. Maybe ask yourself what is the basis of your beliefs? Cherry picking, pick and choose, what your pastor says, or your own ideas?

I would ask myself that if I were you. We need to know both what we believe and why we believe it

Cheers

I believe in the bible. Just not your twisted interpretation ofr it.

You said calling people evil is evil. Exactly what you said. Definitive. I pointed out the fatal flaw of that

I don’t have to prove anything. I gave what I believe to me the basis for morality. You fgave a basis for morality that I falsified. Morality is not based on law, societal norms, and upbringing. Otherwise in certain contexts, Naziism and other deplorable things would be ,by definition, moral. And that is utter balderdash

So you believe that “whoever believes is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already”?

You believe that statement to be true?

No - just like on so many things you have said - you are totally and completely incorrect. And yet - just like all your other posts - you state your falsehoods with absolute conviction and certainty while being wrong.

I am wrong about Nazis being evil? I don’t think so, buddy.

Are NAzis evil? Yes or no?

If you say no, you have a problem

If you say yes, you prove that saying a party is evil is not in itself evil

Not what I said. But like so much of what you twisted, you twisted it with absolute conviction and certainty.

No less or more evil than all of those Christian slave owners.

If you say yes, which you should, you destroy both your view of basis for morality and the statement that “calling evil out is evil” in one word

Man, this God guy really does sound like a massive douchebag.

Probably drives a BMW or Jag.

Well Hitler was part of God's plan.

According to trump there are good people on both sides.

Back to your dogma hammering.

I would agree. But that doesn’t make Christianity evil, only some Christians, not all, were guilty. Many opposed slavery. It was not a platform for Christians

Out of the Democratic candidates, what is the percentage that do not hold to the parties platform?

Trump is not the basis for morality either, lol.

I know this is hard for you to follow. I am talking facts.

[1] You said I defined Evil. I did not.

[2] Then you again put words in my mouth I did not say - you were wrong and I said so.

Now you are trying to invent a new narrative. Stop. I didn't define Evil and I did not say you were right or wrong about the Nazi's ..... others might want to play your childish games - I am sticking to the facts. see above points 1 and 2.

In what way?

Was it someone else who said “evil is identified as calling other people evil?” If it was someone else, I apologize. Let me go back and chek

I apologize. I looked it up and it It was perfect spiral who defined evil as calling people evil

Sorry I mistook you to be the one who said that. I think it’s safe to say that was not a well thought out statement.

It’s hard to keep track when you’re answering half a dozen people

Ok. What does Psalm 139:13 and Jeremiah 1:5 say about unborn children?

90% of the jobs of the future shouldn't require college.

correction..it is perfect spiral that said calling people evil is evil.and then severa; argued, including you I think that calling a party evil is the same as calling "people" evil. As if calling a platform of a party evil is the same as calling everyone in the party evil, doesn't seem to follow, but OK then. lol

So according to perfect spiral and several others, you and I are evil for calling the Nazi party evil. That is if you think through their argumements

a. calling people evil is evil
b. calling a political party evil is the same as calling people evil
c. Therefore you and I are evil for calling the Nazi party evil

Interesting bunch around here. LOL

Let's test your argument

a. Calling people evil is evil
b. Calling a political party evil is the same thing as calling people evil
c. therefore calling the Nazi party evil, for an example, is evil

FAIL!!! Worst argument I've ever heard.

And for all the funny people that tried to attack me for saying the Democratic party, IE PLATFORM, is evil, you have three of your own fingers pointing back at you if you call ANY PARTY evil.

If you call the communist party of the former Soviet Union evil, or the communist party of China, or ISIS evil, then you are calling people evil, and by Perfect Spiral's definition, you are evil.

Just exposing the way people think when they are defending an untenable position. They start contradicting themselves, as many did here.

The type of argumentation some of you used reveals cognitive dissonance in some of you

I will leave now, Cheers

Cincinnati church wipes out $46.5 million in medical debt for 45,000 families

A megachurch in Cincinnati announced Sunday that it is paying off $46.5 million in medical debt for more than 45,000 families.

Crossroads Church partnered with RIP Medical Debt, a medical debt relief nonprofit, to wipe out debts for people in Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee and Indiana. They will receive bright yellow envelopes this week letting them know the good news.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/cincinnati-ch...t-for-nonprofit

Before I go One reason I will not vote Democrat

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cheerio

whats that? one of the unborn children that God murdered when he flooded the earth?

who told you man could play God?

Certainly not to make light - but if it happened, it was God's design and intention. That was offered before - we all have choices and free will but ultimately it's God's plan.

It's called Divine Judgement. Man is not God. Different categories. Second, God's plan allows moral evil, but NEVER causes it. man and angels are responsible for ALL moral evil. That is why they are punished. But God foreknew all things, and works all things out according to His own purpose.

thats something, isnt it? God is basically a stock market analysis. no matter what happens, he told you it was gonna happen.

He told us many things BEFORE they happened.