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Your “solution” is to let OUR GOVERNMENT take full control of our HC even though there history shows they run nothing even close to competently ... NOT EVEN CLOSE ...

What’s wrong with u ... seriously ...

O care ... overpriced and many places couldn’t even offer it before trump was even elected ...

Medicare ... broke .. broke ... broke ... and most on Medicare that have a pot to pee in have supplemental HC cause Medicare as is STINKS ...

Yet ... u wanna hand the hole ball of wax over to them ...

What world does that make sense in ... U HAVE TO IGNORE OVERWHELMING FACTS to think if we hand over HC to the government its gonna work ...

Can anyone help me here ... OCD is way to far gone and i really don’t understand it ...

Wow .. no sooner did i make the post than an ad for supplemental Medicare popped up in here ... coincidence ... who knows ... *L* ..

Why is every differing opinion deemed an attack around here? I didn't call you stupid, didn't use any offensive rhetoric. Please enlighten me on how everyone that doesn't agree with any given progressive idea is a self-centered, greedy and non-compassionate... that'll be fun.

As far as Medicaid, Pitt posed an accurate rebuttal, things are different from state to state. Go ahead and check on Ohio if you wish. Yes, some "poor" people are probably part of the 1 in 25 that we've spent our entire election process arguing about.

Fine, let's back up a few boxes:

Healthcare is henceforth recognized as a public right as far as access and cost control. Because of this, any business involved in profiting on healthcare in any aspect, ie... doctors, insurance companies, healthcare facilities and organizations, pharmaceutical companies, etc, etc... are allowed to donate ZERO to any political campaign. Donations through any vehicle will result in punishment akin to the NCAA's death sentence.

How's that?

Here's another. Any pharmaceutical company providing medication that is not deemed affordable will be expected to provide it at a loss that makes it affordable. If they don't, they will lose their patent, and the American Pharma Agency will produce it... Maybe the prison population can just make pills instead of license plates.

Any politician receiving contributions from a healthcare business will receive a political death sentence. PERIOD.

Gotta run or I would list more. I'm sure you'll be waiting with baited breath.

Don't drop my name like that. This trolling posts serves no purpose other than to attack me. If you can't propose an idea or back a plan of your own leadership, then step off and do it sharply.

It was a serious post .. i don’t get it ...

Let me guess .. u think our gov did an outstanding job with O care and Medicare is a smooth running ship ... If that’s tru your further gone than i thought ... i seriously don’t understand how u bury your head and think out give taking over HC even more than they all ready do is a good idea ...

Its like telling your 16 year old kid to take the Benz cause he just wrecked the Camry ... *L* ...

And I’ll post to u or drop your name any way i damm well please ... you’ve earned zero respect from me ... its a very small list but your right up near the top ...

That's why I ignore him, and a few others. And people may be surprised by the people from the "other" side that I don't ignore. Don't agree with them often, but they don't go off being belligerent haters. And 1 or 2 I ignore for different reasons.

You ignore me but never miss a chance to say something negative about me, just sitting in your safe space taking swipes.

Re-read your post to me. If you don't see it I can't help you. But we are good. We just differ in opinion and what we consider facts.

I LOVE MEDICARE... I think that shows that without a doubt, it can work and the the federal government can indeed run a program very well..

The Post Office is another well run organization.

The Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines and Coast Guard are all examples of well run orgainzations.

Opinions may vary on what is and what isn't a poorly run organization, but I think these are examples of where the Gov, gets it right.

I 100% agree. And despite the bad press on VA healthcare, we have never had a bad experience with it.

Hey leave Bernie out of this

this invalidates everything you have ever posted, on any subject, since the dawn of time.

Just out of curiosity - what makes you say this? I don't know that I've ever lost a piece of mail - either sent or receiving. I find it remarkable I can pop a letter with about $1.20 stamp on it and in 5 or 6 days it turns up in a remote part of England that is hours from a major metropolitan city. And the same is true in reverse.

I think for an organization that delivers over 180 million letters and items of mail every single day - they do pretty darn well. It's not like they get to choose the most profitable geographies or routes etc. . . . a lot like people who complain about air travel when a plane is delayed or a flight is cancelled, it seems people like to find fault with something that they choose not to see the complexity and scale of.

I was under the impression the USPS is not a federal gov't. program?

I will let you look up the rate of returned/lost/damaged mail compared to that of FedEx, UPS, etc.

There is a reason its called "going postal"

The red tape and buracracy stories I have heard from a few people that I know that work for the Post Office would make your head spin.

I will let you do the looking up, but by every account the USPS is a disaster.

http://postalnews.com/blog/2015/05/09/postal-myths-2-the-usps-is-not-a-government-agency/

https://fortune.com/2019/12/27/usps-privatization-postal-service-going-private/

I'd say as far as classification you'd have to say it is Govt run. Maybe it has a different box it falls into - but it's still Govt run.... ?

It's government enough that congress messed with their retirement fund, making them have like 5x more than was owed on hand or something like that.

I'd say it's more government overseen.

Although during the rough years before Amazon began using them, I don't know if the government helped subsidize operations, I know they were not doing well for a while.

And now that Amazon has moved to it's own delivery when possible, it seems USPS amazon package are fewer, wonder how long the USPS lasts.

Please explain...

this completely invalidates everything you ever posted ever.

The reference here is going back to a few incidents where postal workers kind of went off killing people.

It has NOTHING at all to do with lost letters or damaged packages...

QFT ...

I don’t read dude EVER .... cant say what i think of his IQ but this is not even close to his most ignorant statement he’s ever made ... and its not easy to top making a more ignorant statement than saying the post office is run well ... no wonder why him and others think giving the government more power is a good thing ... talk about a low bar ...

And lookie lookie lookie ... 2 posters actually agreed with it ...

He also full of crap ... i got a hunge that says he has supplemental insurance to his Medicare .... ill give u 5 to 1 odds .... we got a bet ... ...

Attacking the messenger seems to be your thing.

You don't read me ever, So how the hell would you know where these comments land on any scale...

What is a hunge? And while were at it, what the hell does the rest of that sentence mean?

I DO HAVE MEDICARE AND I DO HAVE A SUPPLIMENT PLAN AND THE NUMBERS I QUOTED ARE THE NUMBERS I PAY EACH AND EVERY MONTH AND THE NUMBERS I'VE BEEN CHARGED OVER AND ABOVE ARE ROUGHLY WHAT I PAID OUT OF POCKET... I AM NOT GOING BACK OVER IT TO SEE IF I'M OFF BY A COUPLE OF BUCKS....

Now lets be honest Diam, my comments don't fit with what you want people to believe, therefore, you blow them off..

Come to my home,,,, I'll be more than happy to IM the address and I'll show you the bills... The question is, will you have the courage to admit you are wrong?

I doubt it.

Mailman are we?

I gave multiple examples of how the post office is terrible, and that's the only thing you replied about.

Nothing about the lost/damage/undeliverable rate huh?
Nothing about their production averages compared to other types of courier services, huh?
How about they are bank rolled by the government and still lose billions?
Why is there tracking system so horrible compared to other services?
Why do they charge take in millions upon millions of government funds, then charge companies to end deliver at a discounted rate?


**How are they "greatly run" when they face 120 billion dollar negative in unfunded liabilities.


http://www.crfb.org/blogs/it-time-enact-postal-reform

Please quote his reply ... i wanna see what the menAz said ... thanks ..

You spelled your made up word wrong.

Anybody that thinks the post office is a well run organization has a screw loose. Just how many billions of dollars would they have to lose each year to be considered a poorly run organization?

*L* ... I guess with me it was only a matter of time ... ...

Its only a 5 letter word ... that’s embarrassing ... pay attention dumb ass ....

Is that some sort of a sex act or term?

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Posting in the wrong thread bro...

just caught that.

When you say something that dumb, there is no need to go further.

Yes, because saying the United States Post Office is well run is the equivalent to E=Mc2

I certainly won't even attempt to try and say the post office is ran well. But I think when it comes to actual cards and letters, it's done more as a service to Americans than a profit making business.

When it comes to packages, yes it's not done as well as the private sector. But I haven't seen anyone in the private sector trying to take on wide spread delivery of cards and letters.

And on an unrelated note. If you have ever compared the cost of delivering a package via UPS verses the USPS, I think you would choose USPS.

The USPS delievers 20 million pieces of mail per day, 1% are damaged.

yeah, that's a big deal...you know, it's so easy to just get the facts rather than try to belittle people.

But then, you wouldn't know that.

Did you find that 1% based on research? I would have bet the number is WAY less than that. . . . On the one hand, anyone that's been into a P.O knows it's not a well oiled machine. But then I am sure there are limits on what and how it can be managed. For damn sure the price of a 1st class stamp that can mail a letter from Cleveland to anywhere in the USA doesn't reflect the true cost - especially when you think of remote destinations in the wilderness. And there would be uproar if they tried to adjust pricing to make the public pay true costs .... those are services and limits that Fed Ex and any commercially run delivery service doesn't have to deal with.

So yeah - Fed Ex is no doubt a better run outfit. But you pay for that. Cleveland to Fairbanks, AK - legal size envelope. Cheapest I can find on USPS is $8.05 versus $64 for Fed Ex .... I don't think that's a level playing field.

I did find it with a little research.. And for sure, the USPS could use improvement.. Any organization probably could.

So I never once said they were perfect. But there is some kind of crazy idea that conservatives put out there that anything Government Run is bad...and should be turned over the private sector.