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I hear ya. Got bids out on 3 Cavs games right now on Flashseats. I ended up with tickets to games against the Jazz, Celtics and Nuggets last week. Had great seats at cheap prices for an NBA game.

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I saw this morning that ship is docking Oakland.

All California residents on the ship are being taken to a federal facility in California. The others are also being taken to federal facilities; presumably in their home states (which is just kinda weird).


Well well well, 8 or 9 couples from here are/were on that ship. The Grand Princess. 1 of the couples live about a half mile from me.



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I'm taking Montana and North Dakota.



I already have Montana and interestingly enough, N. Dakota was my second choice.

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I too had North Dakota as one of my choices.

Canada Light sure is a popular one!


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I too had North Dakota as one of my choices.

Canada Light sure is a popular one!


That’s the part to be concerned about, Canada has Coronavirus and they’ll try to get to North Dakota to get to a doctor before they die.


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Well, they're Canadien. We just have to politely ask them not to and they'll be powerless to cross the border.


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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
Italy death toll rises by 93 overnight to 463, and total confirmed cases is over 9,000 (an increase of 1,800).


The WHO is still not ready to call it a pandemic, but says the threat is very real:

"Now that the virus has a foothold in so many countries, the threat of a pandemic has become very real," Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, WHO director-general, told a news conference.

"But it would be the first pandemic that could be controlled. The bottom line is we are not at the mercy of the virus."


Story tonight states hospitals in Italy are getting deluged with a tsunami of patients-so bad that they are trying to set up intensive care provisions out in corridors.

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Well, they're Canadien. We just have to politely ask them not to and they'll be powerless to cross the border.


Oh, geez. Ya, sure.


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The lockdown/quarantine in Italy has been extended to the entire nation.
Like, the entire nation of Italy is locked down.


Italy imposes nationwide restrictions to contain new virus
Italian Premier Giuseppe Conte says he is extending restrictions on travel from the north to the entire country to try to stop the spread of coronavirus.

Conte said a new government decree will require all people in Italy to demonstrate a need to work, health conditions or other limited reasons to travel outside the areas where they live.

"There won't be just a red zone,'' Conte told reporters referring to a lockdown of areas in northern Italy instituted over the weekend.

"There will be Italy" as a protected area, he said.


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That's the real danger with this, and it is where statistics get thrown out the window.

An overloaded system won't be able to maintain required levels of care.


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The thing I'm confused about is isn't there a 98% survival rate last time I checked? Unless you're old or a young kid its just a common cold, or I may be wrong. That's what I know so far.


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The 15% hospitalization rate is a wee bit of a problem. Mortality rate varies by age ranges, the older you are, the worse it is. The 80+ age group has a 15% mortality rate. Basically, nobody 60 and over wants anything to do with it.


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Oh, and that survival rate is down around 96.6%.


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Oh, and that survival rate is down around 96.6%.


Been around 96.5% for the last week or so.... elderly are much worse... underlying disease make it worse too... my guess is we'll be over 1000 cases in us by end of the week


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7 cases in Iowa were all on the same cruise in Egypt together.

Egypt only has 55 cases. What are the odds that these seven people all were exposed to the same tiny subset of infected people in Egypt?

12 cases in Texas also from an Egypt cruise ship.


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OSU suspends face-to-face instruction, moving classes online in effort to prevent COVID-19 coronavirus spread

COLUMBUS (WCMH) — Ohio State University is suspending face-to-face instructions such as lectures and other classroom settings and moving classes online for the rest of the month in a proactive effort to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 coronavirus.

In a statement made Monday night, OSU stated it was suspending lectures, discussion sections, seminars, and similar classroom settings and moving to virtual instruction, effective immediately and through at least March 30.

“We are evaluating classroom experiences such as laboratory and performance classes, and the university will provide specific guidance this week,” the statement reads. “We will reevaluate these guidelines on an ongoing basis and share updates or modifications as more information becomes available.”

A letter from OSU president Michael Drake states the school is monitoring the COVID-19 coronavirus outbreak.

“While there are no campus-associated cases of COVID-19, we know that there are at least three confirmed cases in the state of Ohio, and we expect that there will be more,” Drake writes in the letter. “We are being proactive in an effort to prevent illness and continue the important work of the university.”

Students at the school are on spring break this week.

Drake’s letter is available in full below.

<see doc at link>

Three cases of COVID-19 coronavirus were confirmed in Cuyahoga County Monday, prompting Gov. Mike DeWine to declare a state of emergency.

https://www.nbc4i.com/community/health/c...es-move-online/


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The US is starting to look like an elementary school kid with chicken pox. It used to be relegated to the coasts, but the interior is starting to fill in. A number of new states with first cases today. I expect all 50 states no later than Wednesday.


Two suspected cases in Solon as of this morning.. Those two folks have been quarintined


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OSU suspends face-to-face instruction, moving classes online in effort to prevent COVID-19 coronavirus spread

COLUMBUS (WCMH) — Ohio State University is suspending face-to-face instructions such as lectures and other classroom settings and moving classes online for the rest of the month in a proactive effort to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 coronavirus.

In a statement made Monday night, OSU stated it was suspending lectures, discussion sections, seminars, and similar classroom settings and moving to virtual instruction, effective immediately and through at least March 30.

“We are evaluating classroom experiences such as laboratory and performance classes, and the university will provide specific guidance this week,” the statement reads. “We will reevaluate these guidelines on an ongoing basis and share updates or modifications as more information becomes available.”

A letter from OSU president Michael Drake states the school is monitoring the COVID-19 coronavirus outbreak.

“While there are no campus-associated cases of COVID-19, we know that there are at least three confirmed cases in the state of Ohio, and we expect that there will be more,” Drake writes in the letter. “We are being proactive in an effort to prevent illness and continue the important work of the university.”

Students at the school are on spring break this week.

Drake’s letter is available in full below.

<see doc at link>

Three cases of COVID-19 coronavirus were confirmed in Cuyahoga County Monday, prompting Gov. Mike DeWine to declare a state of emergency.

https://www.nbc4i.com/community/health/c...es-move-online/


This is working out perfectly for the anti-social, face in their phone people. Now they all have a legitimate excuse not to interact with the people around them smile


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The Ivy League just canceled the Men's and Women's Conference BB Tournaments.

I think it's time to start dropping laughing at this virus and take it seriously. Not panic. But, it's here and it's a threat.

I wonder what the NCAA will do w/their tournament? Too much money to cancel. But man, talk about environments that put thousands of people at risk.

Serious stuff.

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Coachella festival just postponed until October. South by Southwest festival (SXSW) canceled. These are major events that bring huge tourism dollars to the communities that host them.


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Courtesy www.health.com

While every is in a panic about the coronavirus (officially renamed COVID-19 by the World Health Organization), there's an even deadlier virus many people are forgetting about: The Flu.

Flu season is hitting it's stride right now in the US. So far, the CDC has estimated (based on weekly influenza surveillance data) that at least 12,000 people have died from influenza between October 1st, 2019 through February 1st 2020, and the number of deaths may be as high as 30,000.

The CDC also estimates that up to 31,000,000 have caught the flu this season, with 210, 000 to 370,000 flu sufferers hospitalized because of the virus.

Overall, the CDC estimates that 12,000 to 61,000 deaths annually since 2010 can be blamed on the flu. Globally, the World Health Organization (WHO) estmates that the flu kills 290,000 to 650,000 people per year.

My Question is (and I'm not saying that Coronavirus isn't dangerous) why now with is this Virus which appears to be less dangerous than the flu, is causing such panic in shutting down sports, colleges and more, when I don't think in my lifetime that anyone has shut anything down for the flu??

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My Question is (and I'm not saying that Coronavirus isn't dangerous) why now with is this Virus which appears to be less dangerous than the flu, is causing such panic in shutting down sports, colleges and more, when I don't think in my lifetime that anyone has shut anything down for the flu??


In my opinion, because this virus isn't "part of the plan", like that Joker/TwoFace scene in The Dark Knight. Nobody freaks out when they hear some gangbangers were killed, soldiers died or the flu is taking down people left and right, because that's news people are used to tuning out. It's "normal" news. Soldiers are supposed to die, gangbangers are supposed to be involved in shootings and the normal flu isn't a big deal because it's been around forever AND there is a shot to prevent it.

However, this NEW virus is, well, new. Plus, with other recent exotic viruses, they were quarantined and stopped from hitting the states (or a few cases hit here but they fizzled out quickly). This is gaining steam, spreading and people are confused and terrified. It's not like you can say, "well, there are 5 people 3 states over with it, but they're quarantined." Every 42 minutes an announcement comes out that more people have it, closer and closer to where you live. It's just a matter of days before the schools in my area are shut down.

It's odd, most of the people that will be fine getting this flu are freaking out as much as the people that could likely die, like me (autoimmune disease). This is straight panic. I would guess more than 99.9% of healthy people between 10 and 60 will be fine, it's the younger, older and people with health problems that move the mortality rate into the 2-3% range.

I saw some statistics on the H1N1 virus from 11 years back. That [censored] was way worse than this, but maybe social media wasn't a thing so it was just on the news and nobody paid any attention to it. I remember someone asking me if I wanted the H1N1 vaccination, but I don't remember being afraid at all during the lead up to that offer.

I think we may be past the point of expecting people to calm down and wait it out. I don't know what the next few weeks/months will look like, but I'm not looking forward to finding out.


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because it ISN'T less dangerous than the flu. It is simply, for now, less prevalent and omnipresent.

If, Godzilla forbid, this virus gets to be as widespread as the flu, we are all in deep crap. THAT is why you are seeing every nation on Earth move Heaven and Earth the way they are to combat this; to try to slow it down.

It IS controllable, but only IF you can get ahead of it... but, so far we have no been able to do that on a global scale and now the magnitude of the task of trying to do that is nearly at the point of being insurmountable.


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Originally Posted By: PastorMarc
My Question is (and I'm not saying that Coronavirus isn't dangerous) why now with is this Virus which appears to be less dangerous than the flu, is causing such panic in shutting down sports, colleges and more, when I don't think in my lifetime that anyone has shut anything down for the flu??


Because the death rate is much higher and we have no vaccine to fight it. The flu is "not more dangerous".


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It's odd, most of the people that will be fine getting this flu are freaking out as much as the people that could likely die, like me (autoimmune disease). This is straight panic. I would guess more than 99.9% of healthy people between 10 and 60 will be fine, it's the younger, older and people with health problems that move the mortality rate into the 2-3% range.



Ages 0-6 have nearly nothing at all to worry about.
In fact, for anyone under 50, your worries are limited to worrying about older family members and how you will expose them to this.

50-59, your mortality rate sits at around 1.3%
60-69: 3.6%
70-79: 8.0%
80+: 14.8%

Those numbers are based on ALL cases, including asymptomatic. When looking at only confirmed illnesses, the 80+ group skyrockets to 21.9% (no numbers for other age groups, but a similar scaling should be expected).

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

Men are nearly twice as likely to die as women.
The mortality rate for someone with no pre-existing conditions is 0.9%.

Cardiovascular disease 13.2%
Diabetes 9.2%
Chronic respiratory disease 8.0%
Hypertension 8.4%
Cancer 7.6%


These numbers are based on a study of 70+ thousand patients in China. It does not reflect whatever is happening now in the rest of the world.


Lots of good information at that link. Plenty to help someone make sense of things.


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At the University of Nebraska, the first patients have volunteered to test an experimental drug to treat COVID-19. And at Kaiser Permanente Washington Health Research Institute, researchers have begun recruiting people to test a possible vaccine.

https://time.com/5799718/coronavirus-vaccine-antiviral-studies/


The first clinical trial of the antiviral medicine remdesivir in Covid-19 patients is due to report its findings next month according to Gilead Sciences, which said it had accelerated manufacturing of the drug to increase its supplies “as rapidly as possible”.

While awaiting these results, doctors in the US, China and Italy are already using remdesivir on a compassionate basis to treat small numbers of patients with severe Covid-19. The first US patient, a 35-year-old man in Snohomish County, Washington, recovered, but the full trials are needed to assess whether the drug reduces the severity of symptoms and, crucially, mortality rates.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/m...nst-coronavirus

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My Question is (and I'm not saying that Coronavirus isn't dangerous) why now with is this Virus which appears to be less dangerous than the flu, is causing such panic in shutting down sports, colleges and more, when I don't think in my lifetime that anyone has shut anything down for the flu??


Because the death rate is much higher and we have no vaccine to fight it. The flu is "not more dangerous".


In your opinion they haven't tested enough to prove that it is more dangerous than the flu ...


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My Question is (and I'm not saying that Coronavirus isn't dangerous) why now with is this Virus which appears to be less dangerous than the flu, is causing such panic in shutting down sports, colleges and more, when I don't think in my lifetime that anyone has shut anything down for the flu??


Because the death rate is much higher and we have no vaccine to fight it. The flu is "not more dangerous".


In your opinion they haven't tested enough to prove that it is more dangerous than the flu ...


Which is why you can base it off of the numbers in Italy and S. Korea. I said "we're not testing enough". Not that the rest of the globe is behind the curve.


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They have not tested enough to be able to get a realistic grasp on how widespread it is here in the US.
We have plenty of global data to see how dangerous it is.

It isn't opinion, it is fact.


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I wonder what the NCAA will do w/their tournament? Too much money to cancel. But man, talk about environments that put thousands of people at risk.


Do not cancel, I have tickets for Round 1, session 2, Friday night in Cleveland!

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I wonder what the NCAA will do w/their tournament? Too much money to cancel. But man, talk about environments that put thousands of people at risk.


Do not cancel, I have tickets for Round 1, session 2, Friday night in Cleveland!


Noooooooo....


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Sales on my game are down since the hysteria started. D:


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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Sales on my game are down since the hysteria started. D:


Never let a good crisis go to waste. Buy 'em up!

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Sales on my game are down since the hysteria started. D:


Never let a good crisis go to waste. Buy 'em up!


I mean on my online business.


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I wonder what the NCAA will do w/their tournament? Too much money to cancel. But man, talk about environments that put thousands of people at risk.


Do not cancel, I have tickets for Round 1, session 2, Friday night in Cleveland!


Noooooooo....




really really really hope they don't cancel Sonic Temple. It's outdoors, but won't be shocked if they cancel it....


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Sales on my game are down since the hysteria started. D:


Never let a good crisis go to waste. Buy 'em up!


I mean on my online business.


My bad, I thought you meant AU.

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