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You know we're about to have a Dem POTUS so GOPers have to crash the economy, virus be damned, that is always the plan.

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Good morning. The virus infection number doubles day by day. State by state. Still not enough test kits. 1 mile radius bubble created last night in NY.

trumps watch. Pffft.


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
You know we're about to have a Dem POTUS so GOPers have to crash the economy, virus be damned, that is always the plan.
Yeah, I am sure it was the GOPers who shut down communist china. GTFOH with that. You sound like the people saying this all nothing but the media frenzy. Which BTW, this part is not towards you, but in general:

If this is nothing but a media frenzy, why did Communist China, a country who literally BLOCKS out media from reaching them, SHUT DOWN their country over this? Yeah, its CNN and FoxNew fault they "overreacted".

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If this is nothing but a media frenzy, why did Communist China, a country who literally BLOCKS out media from reaching them, SHUT DOWN their country over this? Yeah, its CNN and FoxNew fault they "overreacted".
Agree.

I'm in the NE for work - just spoke to my wife and was surprised to hear there are only 7 noted infections in NC. I said I was surprised because Charlotte has the 7th busiest airport in the nation and has many direct flights to EU .... she explained that Mecklenburg County (where we live - same county as CLT airport) has NO test kits. . . . all the test kits in NC are in Raleigh apparently!!

Whatever the official numbers are - they are a total and complete lie. There are going to be hundreds, maybe thousands of infected people in NC - they just have not been tested.

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If this is nothing but a media frenzy, why did Communist China, a country who literally BLOCKS out media from reaching them, SHUT DOWN their country over this? Yeah, its CNN and FoxNew fault they "overreacted".
Agree.

I'm in the NE for work - just spoke to my wife and was surprised to hear there are only 7 noted infections in NC. I said I was surprised because Charlotte has the 7th busiest airport in the nation and has many direct flights to EU .... she explained that Mecklenburg County (where we live - same county as CLT airport) has NO test kits. . . . all the test kits in NC are in Raleigh apparently!!

Whatever the official numbers are - they are a total and complete lie. There are going to be hundreds, maybe thousands of infected people in NC - they just have not been tested.
Agreed.

I was sick last week. I had all the symptoms of the CV (I do not think I had it), and was tested for the flu. That came back negative, but the Dr said "I am not certain what you have, I think its just a upper resp. infection" I asked him, "well could it be CV" He said "I don't believe so, we don't haven't had any cases around here" I then said "well I would feel better if you tested me for it, I have older parents with health issues". His reply was, "wellll, we don't have any test kits in the state yet, so theres no way to test for it". I then asked, "well how do you know then no on has had it here?" He kind of blankly looked at me..."

That was a MedExpress, so I immediately went to my DOCTOR and they confirmed it was resp. infection and gave me an antibiotic and it cleared up in a few days.

Point being, they have 0 idea about the numbers on this thing, and I bet THOUSANDS have died already we don't know about.

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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
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You know we're about to have a Dem POTUS so GOPers have to crash the economy, virus be damned, that is always the plan.
Yeah, I am sure it was the GOPers who shut down communist china. GTFOH with that. You sound like the people saying this all nothing but the media frenzy. Which BTW, this part is not towards you, but in general:

If this is nothing but a media frenzy, why did Communist China, a country who literally BLOCKS out media from reaching them, SHUT DOWN their country over this? Yeah, its CNN and FoxNew fault they "overreacted".


Virus aside, if it looks like Trump is out GOPers will crash the economy. It's the playbook for stupid, how else can they blame dems?

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You know we're about to have a Dem POTUS so GOPers have to crash the economy, virus be damned, that is always the plan.


Sleepy Joe will never become President. Your crazy!, Trump will eat him alive in a national debate make him look absolutely foolish.

Sleepy Joe ruined his chances with working Americans yesterday in Detroit when he told that factory worker:

"I do not work for you"

The President is supposed to work for the people, Sleepy Joe thinks the people work for him. That was the single worst thing he ever could have said...the monent he said that Obama just facepalmed thinking "You gotta be kidding me"

The average working American like me won't make a big internet uproar about it, hell most of us will probably not even saying anything...we will just vote for anyone but Sleepy Joe who made it clear he thinks we work for him.

Not once has Trump ever said the people work for him. On the contrary he says he works for the people.

Bernie Sanders if proof of how much support the liberal AOC side of the Democratic party has..bout none. I knew when AOC endorsed him he was finished...that was a death sentence for him...funny how he done so well without her in 2016.

Sanders is proof all the far left of the Dems do is get on Twitter and Facebook and run their jaws and post junk, but when it comes to actual "work" like campaigning, voting, etc...well they are not interested in that very much...afterlal that would require work...that would require getting of social media and actually doing something...

Bernie poll numbers are falling so fast he will disappear off the stage which is a shame...I really wanted to Trump to take him to task, but i'll get close to equal entertainment watching Trump tear Early On Set Dementia Joe apart in debates and a national election.

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A self fulfilling prophecy !

- We don't know what you have but we don't need to test you for CV

- Why?

- Because we haven't had any positive tests for CV in this area

Talk about self inflicted wounds.

Once again - CV isn't Trump's fault. The way the country prepares, reacts and responds is a reflection of Trump. Sadly we missed the mark. No need to over-react or panic - but underplaying the virus and potential for spread was agrave mistake. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump doesn't want more testing to show how widespread this is.


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Originally Posted By: mgh888
A self fulfilling prophecy !

- We don't know what you have but we don't need to test you for CV

- Why?

- Because we haven't had any positive tests for CV in this area

Talk about self inflicted wounds.

Once again - CV isn't Trump's fault. The way the country prepares, reacts and responds is a reflection of Trump. Sadly we missed the mark. No need to over-react or panic - but underplaying the virus and potential for spread was agrave mistake. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump doesn't want more testing to show how widespread this is.
Oh they absolutely are trying to not test for it. I have said that multiple times already.

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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
Originally Posted By: mgh888
A self fulfilling prophecy !

- We don't know what you have but we don't need to test you for CV

- Why?

- Because we haven't had any positive tests for CV in this area

Talk about self inflicted wounds.

Once again - CV isn't Trump's fault. The way the country prepares, reacts and responds is a reflection of Trump. Sadly we missed the mark. No need to over-react or panic - but underplaying the virus and potential for spread was agrave mistake. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump doesn't want more testing to show how widespread this is.
Oh they absolutely are trying to not test for it. I have said that multiple times already.


I have a question for you.
How do you expect testing will help you?

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A self fulfilling prophecy !

- We don't know what you have but we don't need to test you for CV

- Why?

- Because we haven't had any positive tests for CV in this area

Talk about self inflicted wounds.

Once again - CV isn't Trump's fault. The way the country prepares, reacts and responds is a reflection of Trump. Sadly we missed the mark. No need to over-react or panic - but underplaying the virus and potential for spread was agrave mistake. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump doesn't want more testing to show how widespread this is.
Oh they absolutely are trying to not test for it. I have said that multiple times already.


I have a question for you.
How do you expect testing will help you?
Really? Maybe so people like you who think its a non factor understand that it is actually a pretty big deal. And maybe so the uneducated don't listen to people like you and do not wonder out when they shouldn't, catch this, and die.

My old neighbor, who I care for dearly, listens to every word out of Trumps mouth like gospel. The poor lady has COPD and is 63 years old.

I was asking her if she was staying home and being careful - and her reply was "nah, Trump said its fine and people should go to work" SMH.

I think not giving people truthful information in a public health crisis is dangerous, and frankly criminal.

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Your hysterical reply was entertaining but not true as I have stated on numerous occasions this virus is a concern (like the Flu) but over the top panic is not justified.

But you never answered my question on how testing helps you or changes anything.

We already know the virus is out there so we take precautions.
If you test positive, you have already exposed everyone you have come in contact with.

If she tests positive, she doesn't have many options as there is currently no treatment or cure.

If everyone in your neighborhood is tested, they have a right to keep it to themselves just like AIDS patients had that right to protect them from those who wanted to ostracize them.

So, again, how do you feel testing would help you?

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Your hysterical reply was entertaining but not true as I have stated on numerous occasions this virus is a concern (like the Flu) but over the top panic is not justified.

But you never answered my question on how testing helps you or changes anything.

We already know the virus is out there so we take precautions.
If you test positive, you have already exposed everyone you have come in contact with.

If she tests positive, she doesn't have many options as there is currently no treatment or cure.

If everyone in your neighborhood is tested, they have a right to keep it to themselves just like AIDS patients had that right to protect them from those who wanted to ostracize them.

So, again, how do you feel testing would help you?

SMH, if your not testing people they don't know they have the virus. If your not testing people, and they are listening to butt head and going to work, they are risking infecting others. if your not testing people, and you go visit say well, you - your life is at risk as you are in the category of high risk, are you not?

SMDH.

I typically find you funny.

In regards this this, you have been relegated to dangerous.

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Originally, doctors in the U.S. were advised not to test people unless they had been to China or had contact with someone who had been diagnosed with the disease. Within the past two weeks, the CDC said it would start screening people in five U.S. cities, in an effort to give some idea of how many cases are actually out there. But tests are still not widely available. As of Friday, the Association of Public Health Laboratories said that only California, Nebraska, and Illinois had the capacity to test people for the virus.
With so little data, prognosis is difficult. But the concern that this virus is beyond containment—that it will be with us indefinitely—is nowhere more apparent than in the global race to find a vaccine, one of the clearest strategies for saving lives in the years to come.

If you are not testing for it, you are not containing it. So it will spread, it will get more prevalent, and will get worse.

"how can testing help you" what an idiotic question.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Your hysterical reply was entertaining but not true as I have stated on numerous occasions this virus is a concern (like the Flu) but over the top panic is not justified.

But you never answered my question on how testing helps you or changes anything.

We already know the virus is out there so we take precautions.
If you test positive, you have already exposed everyone you have come in contact with.

If she tests positive, she doesn't have many options as there is currently no treatment or cure.

If everyone in your neighborhood is tested, they have a right to keep it to themselves just like AIDS patients had that right to protect them from those who wanted to ostracize them.

So, again, how do you feel testing would help you?

SMH, if your not testing people they don't know they have the virus.
By the time they go for the test, they have already exposed everyone they came in contact with.
When they test positive, there is no treatment or cure anyway.


If your not testing people, and they are listening to butt head and going to work, they are risking infecting others.
If they test positive, they have already exposed everyone at work.


if your not testing people, and you go visit say well, you - your life is at risk as you are in the category of high risk, are you not?
We are supposed to be taking precautions as if everyone you meet has the virus. Keep your distance(3feet), wash your hands often, etc.

SMDH.

I typically find you funny.

In regards this this, you have been relegated to dangerous.

Your Panic is the real danger. Cooler heads will prevail as this thing spreads.

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By the time they go for the test, they have already exposed everyone they came in contact with.
When they test positive, there is no treatment or cure anyway.
And when that person gets tested, you can then follow the trail of people they interacted with to get tested, and so forth. You realize that's how you ACTUALLY TRACK THESE THINGS right? Good god

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Did I miss anything? I'm still going to work like normal.

Love how people are reacting though.


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In regards this this, you have been relegated to dangerous.

Your Panic is the real danger. Cooler heads will prevail as this thing spreads.
No, you would rather see people die then watch Trump get proven wrong. Plain and simple. Your like a lead pig being led by farmer, and Trump is pulling your pork chop thumbsup .

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Did I miss anything? I'm still going to work like normal.

Love how people are reacting though.
Im pretty sure you missed a lot of things in your life. Like common sense.

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You can think what you want and be fed by your big government and media. Be a little sheep who can't even think for yourself.

In that case I hope you're scared to death about the virus.


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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
Originally, doctors in the U.S. were advised not to test people unless they had been to China or had contact with someone who had been diagnosed with the disease. Within the past two weeks, the CDC said it would start screening people in five U.S. cities, in an effort to give some idea of how many cases are actually out there. But tests are still not widely available. As of Friday, the Association of Public Health Laboratories said that only California, Nebraska, and Illinois had the capacity to test people for the virus.
With so little data, prognosis is difficult. But the concern that this virus is beyond containment—that it will be with us indefinitely—is nowhere more apparent than in the global race to find a vaccine, one of the clearest strategies for saving lives in the years to come.

If you are not testing for it, you are not containing it. So it will spread, it will get more prevalent, and will get worse.

"how can testing help you" what an idiotic question.


Testing does not contain it, actions do.
A person can catch the virus the day after they took a test that showed negative.

The Government and CDC have, to date, done everything possible to slow the spread of the virus. This is why it has been slow to overrun us like it did in China, Italy, Iran and others.
They are also testing treatments and a vaccine as we speak.

It is also up to we the people to do our part and practice proper hygiene while taking precautions.

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Did I miss anything? I'm still going to work like normal.

Love how people are reacting though.


I just got back from the gym and found it nice to have so many machines open.

Of course I took proper hygiene precautions. thumbsup

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Boy I know you won’t talking about anybody not thinking for themselves.

You follow trump like a lost puppy in the rain. Settle down.


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China has been reporting they have fewer and fewer cases of Corona for about 2 weeks now and I just read this...

China reports no new locally transmitted coronavirus cases outside epicenter

Mainland China reported no new locally transmitted coronavirus cases outside the epicenter of Hubei province for the second day running on Monday, but a top Communist Party official warned against people dropping their guard.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-healt...i-idUSKBN20W00Y

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Do you trust anything coming out of the Chinese government?


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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
Originally Posted By: tastybrownies
Did I miss anything? I'm still going to work like normal.

Love how people are reacting though.
Im pretty sure you missed a lot of things in your life. Like common sense.


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Did I miss anything? I'm still going to work like normal.

Love how people are reacting though.


Libertarians reading this thread: "Screw it, I'm coughing on EVERYBODY."


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Originally Posted By: tastybrownies
You can think what you want and be fed by your big government and media. Be a little sheep who can't even think for yourself.

In that case I hope you're scared to death about the virus.
hahaha, you realize the government is run by Trump right? SMH

FYI, aswer me this, can you explain why China and Italy shut down their countries and basically lost billions of dollars, because of OUR media?

Because you know, communist china - who literally bands outside forms of media, have direct links to CNN rofl

FYI the WHO organization, that's WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, meaning the WORLD not the US, declared it a pandemic moments ago. I am sure they are swayed by the US Media to huh?

Some of ya'll simple.

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China has been reporting they have fewer and fewer cases of Corona for about 2 weeks now and I just read this...

China reports no new locally transmitted coronavirus cases outside epicenter

Mainland China reported no new locally transmitted coronavirus cases outside the epicenter of Hubei province for the second day running on Monday, but a top Communist Party official warned against people dropping their guard.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-healt...i-idUSKBN20W00Y


And the National Security Advisor - A Trump guy mind you - stated China covered up CV. So yeah, I would be weary of that. You realize the better the numbers are, the better the chance for their economy - right? I mean, its not like they don't have a reason to lie. . . .

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/robert-obri...curity-adviser/


Also this:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavir...d4ti-story.html

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Of the 24 new virus cases reported by China on Wednesday, five had arrived from Italy and one from the United States. China has had over 81,000 virus infections and over 3,000 deaths.
How again were their 0 if they said 24 new cases were reported?????

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Of the 24 new virus cases reported by China on Wednesday, five had arrived from Italy and one from the United States. China has had over 81,000 virus infections and over 3,000 deaths.
How again were their 0 if they said 24 new cases were reported?????


Zero new locally transmitted cases.


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I am not going to go round and round on all the particulars with you.

Live in fear or man up and live with precautions.

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A self fulfilling prophecy !

- We don't know what you have but we don't need to test you for CV

- Why?

- Because we haven't had any positive tests for CV in this area

Talk about self inflicted wounds.

Once again - CV isn't Trump's fault. The way the country prepares, reacts and responds is a reflection of Trump. Sadly we missed the mark. No need to over-react or panic - but underplaying the virus and potential for spread was agrave mistake. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump doesn't want more testing to show how widespread this is.
Oh they absolutely are trying to not test for it. I have said that multiple times already.


I have a question for you.
How do you expect testing will help you?


Testing isn't going to help me personally, but how do you quantify and qualify and prepare for a problem without first properly diagnosing it and quantifying it?

All your Trump bile is aimed at trying to support how poorly Trump has managed the situation. What willitever and myself and others believe is that we could do more.

your bold claims that the US doesn't have the same problems as other countries around the world is completely and totally and utterly unvalid and not true... If we don't test for the virus how The heck do you know how many people have it? See how that works.

I haven't changed my routine, I got on a plane Monday and traveled for work. My wife and I are traveling to Europe in the summer and we're not planning on changing that trip. But we are relatively young and healthy.

Anyway you carry on with your crazy Trump propaganda because it's what you do. I'll watch as your story changes with Trump story that changes as the situation is revealed and the situation is worse than Trump has wanted to portray... The markets will continue to languish and go up and down like a yo-yo. I'll get my information from reliable science-based sources. You can stick to Trump and the Chinese government for your sources of info Good luck to you


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Logic and common sense, looking at a situation without panic and fear, is not Trump bile.

Lets all assume that 10 million Americans are infected right now.
Live with precautions. There is no cure yet. The numbers matter not.

Hate, Fear and Panic lowers your immune system. Be wise!

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Logic and common sense, looking at a situation without panic and fear, is not Trump bile.

Lets all assume that 10 million Americans are infected right now.
Live with precautions. There is no cure yet. The numbers matter not.

Hate, Fear and Panic lowers your immune system. Be wise!
If 10 million Americans have this 300,000 will be dead. The number most definitely matter thumbsup

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Not at all what I meant but nice try anyway.

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Please be careful with your perceived buying opportunities.

Markets are going to slightly rally only because of trump proposing a payroll tax cut and the feds looking to cut rates again. This isn’t the bottom.


I agree and I also think we are beginning the process of bottoming but this isn't bottom.


Financial Geniuses! thumbsup


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Not at all what I meant but nice try anyway.

Not what you meant but the numbers do exactly matter.

Let me have you on record now -today - are we looking at less than 100,000 infected Americans by the end of 2020? Less than a million ? Less than 10 million??

Absolutely - panic never helps any situation. Neither does acting on fear and misunderstanding..... but simply staying calm and not addressing the problem for weeks because Trump is fearful of the Market reacting badly? Idiotic. Sticking your fingers in your ears and singing loudly - what you and Trump want to do - is worse


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