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Some if not all of it will return at some point.. I think long term, you will be fine.

Not arguing with you - honest question. Doesn't Italy have socialized medicine? Its not working out for them, why would it be different here?

**Honestly, truly an honest question. Not a jab or argument, just curious.

Yes they do and under normal conditions it's much cheaper there. As to why they are overwhelmed during this crisis, I have no clue. But America has one of the lowest numbers of hospital beds per capita due to profit motives and things being cut tight to drive those profits. If we get hit like Italy comparatively, it will be much worse here. Although FEMA, the Military, and calling medical personal out of retirement might alleviate that somewhat.

Because it actually has nothing to do with the system. It's far more about containing and mitigating the situation. The United States does have slightly more beds per million people than Italy does. So that does give us a slight advantage.

Otherwise the outcome will be the same in every nation when the virus spreads to the point that patients outnumber beds.

It's why everyone talks about stretching it out so the peak number of patients doesn't overwhelm our capacity for care. It's not about the care people are receiving. It's about how many people need care in certain places.

Once and if there are too many people to care for, even our healthcare system will have to make choices about who lives and who dies.

No we don't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_hospital_beds

And under MC4A with free college there would be more healthcare pros. Profit margins don't allow for over staffing.

Yep - I agree. But it sure makes me pucker.

I feel better too getting out early and having the cash on hand vs. letting it ride for however long in hopes you get it back. Gambling 101.

Wilki is nowhere to base your numbers on....

https://www.statista.com/chart/21105/number-of-critical-care-beds-per-100000-inhabitants/

You will find different answers in different places. I'm not sure there is actually an accurate number out there.

Italy got blind sided

You don't think we didn't? We still are not testing.

In Wv, last I checked - they tested 39 people.

In Pittsburgh, UPMC had to come up with their own test because the government doesn't have enough.

I saw a stat that said something like 1 in 5 million people on average are able to get tested.

We are clsing things down, because we got blindsided.

j/c...

stocks are back in freefall, as trump says worst of outbreak could last until august.

says nobody should be in groups of more than 10.

boy that is a COMPLETE 180 from how he was acting a month ago. this country deserves much better leadership than this.

or maybe we got the leadership we deserve....

Or just from yesterday...

people. whatever your ideology is....protect yourself.

protect your assets, save, stock up, and be ready for the long haul.

this could get ugly. i dont care who you voted for, what you represent. please stay safe.

To be fair those two idiots on the debate last night had no clue what they were talking about.

No we didnt, we knew this was coming. Maybe trump didnt but most knew it was only a matter of time.

Not having a clue is better than actively doing the wrong thing.

I used to listen to the Adam Carolla podcast. He used to do a thing called "stupid or liar?" Trump yesterday said everything was under control, stupid or liar?

Unfortunately with Trump it's both.

How many more people got infected and how many more people will die because Trump misled the public?

We’re about to find out the hard way.

It’s ALWAYS the hard way in this country....

I'm leaving everything as is; I'm only losing value, not money.
When this is over, and everything rebounds, I'll have been paying into my 401k at these rock-bottom rates and things will explode back.

This has nothing to do with either the left or the right. This has everything to do with common sense which both sides and most of the American public have no clue

I agree it was stupid to not include all of those types of businesses at the outset, but at least they've been included now.

Trump gave himself a 10 out of 10 on how he handled the virus so far.

I can’t even be mad at him anymore. I’m looking at all the people who voted for him.

Well thats total BS times 10. I can't go in my local bar if there are 3 of us who want to meet up and drink a few.

Well stop checking out my ass

Props for Trump finally telling his base the truth. Maybe Fox News will quit saying, "welp we're all going to die sometime" and actually give people real information.

I spent my whole day in conversations about the church and this virus and then when I got done I checked my bank account and someone took $85 so I had to close my account before they took more ... What a day

Sorry about that pastor.

Oh looky here, I get chided for posting Breitbart and American Thinker articles and along comes the extreme far left queen of liberal drivel... the Daily Kos!

The Urban Dictionary describes it as:

dailykos
A "progressive" political blog that is perhaps the best example of liberal mob-mentality that can be found on the internet.

A popular site for political commentary, blogging, and threads. The Daily KOS is wildly liberal, and often substitutes factual information with opinions.

I just checked, not a single tin foil hat or nazi in sight on the kos! But yes it is a liberal blog. And sorry you read the GOPer write up on "urban dictionary" <the ultimate trustworthy source of facts for people like YOU.

The 'urban' is all the verification most liberal propaganda deserves!

You'll only be a group of 3, tell the other 7 to get the F out.

Most likely still Kung-Flu, as I have heard it many times since it started.

But for a WH professional to say it is, well unprofessional.