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More like 12.

Never seen anything like it.

No one in this thread has compared Trubisky to Burrow. Here is what I posted and what some others have responded to:

"Trubisky (replaced by Foles) and Burrow will have similar careers."

Careers...not traits...not PFF stats...not rookie TD passes ...not rookie red-zone efficiency...careers.

j/c...

I just think that Burrow doesn't have a huge sample size in college. I also think he is the type of QB who will be "on" or just "off".

Baker has nothing to do with my opinion on Burrow. Baker needs to stop being fat and get in the damn gym. That's my opinion on Baker.

Is Detroit just not wiling to pay Slay? He’s been a good player

So is Detroit tanking?

No. They have signed some guys.

Heck no, they signed Danny Shelton!

Slay is a good player ... its expensive to trade and sign him like that, but I think Philly is close enough to do it

He had a horrible season last year and the Lions were leery of giving him a huge contract.

Odell Beckham Jr. is on the trading block, ESPN analyst says

Updated 9:18 AM; Today 7:35 AM
By Troy L. Smith, Cleveland.com

The Cleveland Browns have been making moves this week to strengthen its already potent offense, including adding Atlanta Falcons stud tight end Austin Hooper. However, the team may be getting ready to unload its most talented offensive player, if you believe one ESPN analyst.

Former Jets and Ravens linebacker Bart Scott made a bold claim on his ESPN Radio show “Bart and Hahn” (with broadcaster Alan Hahn) this week: Odell Beckham Jr. is likely to be traded.

“Just know you heard it here first,” Scott said. “I’m telling you right now, Odell Beckham is on the trading block and it’s real right now.”

Scott didn’t point to any specific inside information. But the ESPN analyst seemed confident.

Bart’s words come on the heels of rumors that the Browns would be willing to trade OBJ if the right offer came along. Despite the Browns not putting anything out there to suggest such a deal could happen.
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Trade him to Minnesota for picks and the safety? Lol who knows

I heard this on the radio. I doubt it happens, but you never know.

Yeah, thats the first team that came to mind

They did, but he can be traded then

They’re asking for a 2nd round pick ... not sure I’d be okay with that price. But I’ve heard/read that he’s above average

Trade him to Raiders for #12.

1. Move up from #10 to #8 and draft Simmons - if available.
2. Draft Thomas, Wills, Wirfs, Becton, or Jones at #12.
3. Sign Breshard Perriman.
4. Draft Antoine Winfield at #41.

Easy, peasy - haha.

It sounds like they're reporting something they're not even sure if they believe.

I’d sign Emmanuel Sanders then too

Bart Scott made it sound like he actually knew something. I don't think he'd use that exact phrasing if he didn't know something. Of course, it doesn't mean anything would happen.

I'm torn on an OBJ trade. Not in favor of letting talent go. But I believe this to be true … I think Baker plays his best when he's the top dawg and can make other players better. I think the constant worry about getting OBJ the ball last year and them not being on the same page is a minus and not a plus. I think OBJ's personality is so large that Baker doesn't function well with a teammate like that. So in some ways, I can see getting rid of OBJ as addition by subtraction.

Of course, keeping him can be addition by addition if they can get on the same page and figure out how to play together.

I'm open to either possibility. We just need whatever is going to make Baker play his best happen.

Well said Rish ... Baker’s swagger left him last year because he wasn’t the alpha. Crazy how one person can change the chemistry and dynamic of a team. OBJ, even though he really wasn’t a distraction or diva or whatever, ruined our team last year.

Now, maybe it can be rectified and salvaged with a new coaching staff and an offseason to reflect .. but we just didn’t have “it” last year .. and the addition of OBJ did have a hand in it.

That seems like a rather far fetched conclusion. And even if it's true, that sounds like a Baker problem.

There was nothing even remotely far fetched about it.



I wouldn't necessarily disagree with this. But if that's the case and you expect it to be a continuing problem, you need to identify which player is more important and cater to that player moving forward.

Our depth at WR behind Jarvis and OBJ is atrocious.

If a trade like this were to happen, WR becomes almost as big of a need as OT.

I appreciate that this is a good WR class, but come next year OBJ's contract is going to look like a steal.

I keep wondering: the more time that passes, I wonder if Higgins becomes part of our plans again. Could we sign him to a 3-4 year deal for 5-6 million per?

If you are correct, then Landry will be next. If you are correct we will have serious problem on our hands and getting rid of OBJ won't solve it.

If you do not think he would be clamoring for re-negotiation of his contract again next year based on the escalated salaries of the WR position, you would be dreaming.

I'm going to need a more reliable source than Bart Scott.

I hardly think that is a relevant fear with a non starter who is under contract.

He would have no leverage.

But I wouldn't mind seeing him back with the Browns.

j/c:

I think it would be beyond ignorant to trade OBJ.

Agreed.... unless we're getting a king's ransom in return. It MUST be more than a 1st rounder, by a good margin, too.

Or an overpaid backup running back.

That's why the argument that "We should have picked Wentz/Watson/Jackson/etc" are all ignoring the many variables that go into success.

Burrow could be the greatest college QB of all time, and then flop on a team that doesn't have the pieces around him.

Look no further than Andrew Luck. Not that he flopped, but because the necessary pieces were never put in place around him he never had the chance to live up to what many thought he could be. Hell, he wasn't even able to put in a full NFL career because of it.