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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Our mental health patients are in good hands.


Probably better hands than your students were.


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Nah..........you're a bully. You love making fun of others. You get off on it. That isn't the guy I would want treating a mentally ill person.

But again, if you want to ignore me.....I'll ignore you. You wanna dance...........the call is yours.

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You calling someone else a bully is hilarious.


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Oh come on. I thought that was light-hearted. The term is funny.

Plus, if some claimed I had a group of Rishenzas following me around, I'd be flattered. Although Rishenza sounds like another infectious disease. Need to rethink that name.


I get you........and I am bringing this back up because jfan was the dude who started the versZa thing. He wasn't doing it w/good humor. He started it to make fun of me and anyone who agrees w/me.

The dude is in the mental health field and spends his free time making fun of others.

That's not funny.

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Oh come on. I thought that was light-hearted. The term is funny.

Plus, if some claimed I had a group of Rishenzas following me around, I'd be flattered. Although Rishenza sounds like another infectious disease. Need to rethink that name.


I get you........and I am bringing this back up because jfan was the dude who started the versZa thing. He wasn't doing it w/good humor. He started it to make fun of me and anyone who agrees w/me.

The dude is in the mental health field and spends his free time making fun of others.

That's not funny.


The only people I make fun of are crap starters like you and that 2020 dude. I got a few chuckles from what I said about both.


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What a guy.

Yet, you ignore folks who call others liars and who dedicate almost every single post they make to discrediting others. Thee were dudes calling me a liar on multiple posts. I then posted links. They ignore them and proceed to call me a liar again.

You ignore all that and continue to berate me. Up yours, medical health professional.

Once again................I will ask you...........will you agree to not talk about me if I agree to not talk about you? We don't like one another. This crap clogs the board. I am more than willing to let it go. Are you?

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As some great teacher once said....I'll post WTH I want.


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That is your right. It is also my right.

I am asking for a truce and I am assuming you are refusing that truce?

But yeah, I am the bully.

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I hear you. Once again, you take the high road. crazy


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Wait. Did I respond to you first or did you respond to me first?

Dude.......one more time.......we don't like one another and that is fine. How about we ignore one another so the board doesn't get clogged down by our BS?

See.........I have no problem w/that. You apparently do. So do others. I think that is revealing. Shout down the opposition!

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You could start.

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Amazing.

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Amazing.
And true. Thank you.

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Wait. Did I respond to you first or did you respond to me first?


You did with the mental health crack.


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Wait............you didn't talk about me before that?

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And one more time, jfan......................I will gladly never talk to you again. I even tried to politely ask you this in a PM, but please leave my name out of your mouth?

I am good w/us ignoring one another. Are you? Or do you feel some deep indebted need to trash my character?

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Wait............you didn't talk about me before that?


Nope. Do your research, teach.


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
And one more time, jfan......................I will gladly never talk to you again. I even tried to politely ask you this in a PM, but please leave my name out of your mouth?

I am good w/us ignoring one another. Are you? Or do you feel some deep indebted need to trash my character?


Can I say verZa?


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
And one more time, jfan......................I will gladly never talk to you again. I even tried to politely ask you this in a PM, but please leave my name out of your mouth?

I am good w/us ignoring one another. Are you? Or do you feel some deep indebted need to trash my character?


So ignore him. Problem solved. Period. Unless you think you have to have the last word on every thing.


You hate him? Ignore him.

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This is stupid and I apologize to everyone who just wants to talk about football.

In my defense, I will say that it really, really gets old reading insult after insult on thread after thread for simply voicing my opinion.

I try to ignore those dudes, but somehow, I get sucked in. Especially after some beverages. I apologize for my participation in these stupid arguments, but I want you all to consider how you would react if you were faced w/at least a dozen insults/lies directed your way each and every freaking day.

Good day.

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I try to ignore those dudes, but somehow, I get sucked in. Especially after some beverages.


thumbsup I'm having a gin and tonic in your honor right now!


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Ah, based on your past, I wondered if you hadn't been drinking tonight. No harm, no foul. I've thought about popping some tops myself.

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Thanks for being a compassionate human being.

In the end, we will all be judged by our acts. The cool part is that we get to choose how we act.

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Thanks for being a compassionate human being.

In the end, we will all be judged by our acts. The cool part is that we get to choose how we act.


You're welcome, And, you're correct. Make a choice.

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Given the fact we could get young and create 15 million in cap space.

Also next year maybe Dupree and or 1 of the Baltimore linebackers
would come available this would create a super bowl level defense in 2 drafts with the young trade.

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Interesting ....

Basically you have to weigh your options.

You would have Chase and lose this years 2 and next years 1 at LEAST

or you can stay put and have Simmons/Becton/Wirfs at 10, and then have this years 2nd and next years 1.

Is Chase THAT much better than Simmons/Becton/Wirfs, that he is worth not having 2-3 other players that could start?

Frankly, I dont think so. IMO, you only trade up that high for a QB.

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young with Myles for 5 years plus sign another pass rusher next
year talking about a defense that would kill all your playoff
advisory qbs and running backs.

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Sign Clowney, Draft Simmons.... you are every bit as good as you would be with Young, more experienced, and you haven't lost any other draft picks.... and there is still plenty of ammo to get a LT.


Chase Young is a tempting target, but it just is not worth what Washington would demand to trade up to #2. It simply isn't.

Even *IF* he is a better player than Clowney, especially right out of hte gate (very doubtful), at that level it is a matter of diminishing returns.

He isn't a guy you sell your draft for unless he is the LAST piece you need and there aren't other options available. In our case, we still need quite a few other pieces and there are free agent pieces available.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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J/c

If we could get Simmons, sign Clowney, and sign Peters/Williams ... that’s probably the fastest way to best results


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To me, trading up to #2 would not be wise, considering what we’d have to give up.


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I agree with the last 2 posters. Trading up to #2 would be too costly. If we get Simmons and Peters/Williams That would go a long way to solving our remaining weak areas.

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I like DE's as much as the next guy, but trading into the top two is reserved for franchise QB's.

It would cost the 1st and 2nd this year and next year's 1st. That's beyond even flat out signing someone on a franchise tag straight up.

There's a reason that does not happen anymore and the "tag and trade" has been the norm for years.


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I like DE's as much as the next guy, but trading into the top two is reserved for franchise QB's.


Agreed. And DE is not a position of desperate need.


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I don't think Chase Young is going to be all that he's being hyped-up to be. He disappeared in way too many games - against mediocre competition - for me to be comfortable trading up to go after a guy like that. JMO

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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
Sign Clowney, Draft Simmons....


You and I are in lock step on this.

Something tells me that Simmons position wouldn't rank very high on the analytics board. I wouldn't be surprised if he were there at 10 if we passed and drafted someone else.

Thomas is the only one I'd consider over Simmons at 10 if they are both there. With both there, we'll probably trade down. LOL


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Sign Clowney, Draft Simmons....


You and I are in lock step on this.

Something tells me that Simmons position wouldn't rank very high on the analytics board. I wouldn't be surprised if he were there at 10 if we passed and drafted someone else.

Thomas is the only one I'd consider over Simmons at 10 if they are both there. With both there, we'll probably trade down. LOL


The Giants last two first round picks (Saquon Barkley and Daniel Jones) leaked pretty early on. Lots of people have Simmons going to the Giants. I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

With that said, I'd like to sign Clowney and get a veteran left tackle.

I'd also be shocked if "analytics" didn't like Simmons. He performed in well at a big time college and his combine numbers were insane. That sounds like someone the analytics would love.

The only way I think the front office might not like him is if they consider him strictly an off ball linebacker.

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Simmons should never be viewed at just one position. This guy can do it all. Watch him on this play as a deep safety against Ohio State in the playoffs. The read, recognition, and range were incredible.


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Simmons should never be viewed at just one position. This guy can do it all. Watch him on this play as a deep safety against Ohio State in the playoffs. The read, recognition, and range were incredible.



I don't view him that way at all. I am just saying a team may not value him as much if they view him as exclusively an off ball linebacker.

(That play you posted above was one of the easier plays a deep safety can make. The QB stared down the receiver the entire time.)

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Sign Clowney, Draft Simmons....


You and I are in lock step on this.

Something tells me that Simmons position wouldn't rank very high on the analytics board. I wouldn't be surprised if he were there at 10 if we passed and drafted someone else.

Thomas is the only one I'd consider over Simmons at 10 if they are both there. With both there, we'll probably trade down. LOL


The Giants last two first round picks (Saquon Barkley and Daniel Jones) leaked pretty early on. Lots of people have Simmons going to the Giants. I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

With that said, I'd like to sign Clowney and get a veteran left tackle.

I'd also be shocked if "analytics" didn't like Simmons. He performed in well at a big time college and his combine numbers were insane. That sounds like someone the analytics would love.

The only way I think the front office might not like him is if they consider him strictly an off ball linebacker.


I should say that I don't think signing is plausible/likely. It's a pipe dream at this point.

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Not even sure where your head is at? I posted the play not due to its degree of difficulty, but instead to show that this guy can play all over the field. He is NOT a one-position player by any stretch of the imagination. Any FO who thinks he is would be clueless.

I will say this though.........I've been watching some of his tape and he does struggle to get off blocks at the LOS. He is not the most physical guy.

If I were coaching him, I would create a new position for him. I would move him all over the field to take advantage of his unique gifts. Lining him up at Will play after play would be ignorant.

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