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I took 100 of my sons savings and bought him 10 shares of carnival - it was i think the other day priced at about 9.80 a share.

Over the last couple days its up a bit. I think over the nexy month or two though, its really going to jump. I have a feeling that they are going to get a big chunk of change from the government.

Yesterday, someone asked trump "why they would get tax payer money since they fly under a different flag". Normally, trump would be "america first" and "they aint getting a dime" - but he made excuses for giving them money. That kinda tipped that off for me.

Also, people have been cramped up in their houses for two weeks now, once this is over come may-june and we are out and about, people are going to want to vacation i think.

I can see this as a quick buy sell option. Im going to invest more as soon as i can. I am waiting for a transfer to hit my trading account to purchase more.


I look at the Cruise Lines like this...

-They are floating Petri dishes, I won't ever cruise again.

-People swore off airplanes after 9/11 and certainly swore they would never stand in line for an hour to be checked by security before boarding. Well they returned in droves and stand in line each time.

-They are registered under foreign nations but they do employ 100,000+ Americans.

-I agree, when this is over, people will be looking to travel.

Good luck on your call.

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They are floating Petri dishes, I won't ever cruise again.



^this, right here^


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-Four passengers died aboard Holland America’s “Zaandam” cruise ship off the coast of Panama, the company announced Friday.

-The company, which is owned by parent Carnival Corp., also announced that two people on board tested positive for COVID-19.

-There are more than 1,800 people aboard the ship, the company said.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/27/four-dea...eak-aboard.html

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Even though it appears the cruise lines may be left out of this bill as stated, it doesn't mean that things are totally over. When asked about the cruise industry issue at a press conference on Thursday, March 26, President Donald Trump indicated he would like to help, saying, "We'll work very hard to help the cruise lines." However, he also said it's "very tough to make a loan to a company when they're based in a different country."

According to The Wall Street Journal, Trump expressed interest in having the cruise lines incorporate in the United States. Reading the tea leaves, it appears that federal authorities may try to compel the cruise operators to incorporate in the United States in order to receive federal aid during the coronavirus breakout, though no one has stated that explicitly.


They should go to their banana republic banks for relief. These Cruise ships are floating death traps. They have no laws at sea and people fall overboard at an alarming rate.

If they really wanted to help at all they would have turned a few of them into hospital ships by now.


They do have laws, Admiralty law/Maritime law.

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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
I took 100 of my sons savings and bought him 10 shares of carnival - it was i think the other day priced at about 9.80 a share.

Over the last couple days its up a bit. I think over the nexy month or two though, its really going to jump. I have a feeling that they are going to get a big chunk of change from the government.

Yesterday, someone asked trump "why they would get tax payer money since they fly under a different flag". Normally, trump would be "america first" and "they aint getting a dime" - but he made excuses for giving them money. That kinda tipped that off for me.

Also, people have been cramped up in their houses for two weeks now, once this is over come may-june and we are out and about, people are going to want to vacation i think.

I can see this as a quick buy sell option. Im going to invest more as soon as i can. I am waiting for a transfer to hit my trading account to purchase more.


I think they are going to be tied up in court for years over this pandemic. People trapped and infected on these ships and the surviving heirs are going to sue the hell out of them.

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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
I took 100 of my sons savings and bought him 10 shares of carnival - it was i think the other day priced at about 9.80 a share.

Over the last couple days its up a bit. I think over the nexy month or two though, its really going to jump. I have a feeling that they are going to get a big chunk of change from the government.

Yesterday, someone asked trump "why they would get tax payer money since they fly under a different flag". Normally, trump would be "america first" and "they aint getting a dime" - but he made excuses for giving them money. That kinda tipped that off for me.

Also, people have been cramped up in their houses for two weeks now, once this is over come may-june and we are out and about, people are going to want to vacation i think.

I can see this as a quick buy sell option. Im going to invest more as soon as i can. I am waiting for a transfer to hit my trading account to purchase more.


I look at the Cruise Lines like this...

-They are floating Petri dishes, I won't ever cruise again.

-People swore off airplanes after 9/11 and certainly swore they would never stand in line for an hour to be checked by security before boarding. Well they returned in droves and stand in line each time.

-They are registered under foreign nations but they do employ 100,000+ Americans.

-I agree, when this is over, people will be looking to travel.

Good luck on your call.
I dont disagree with that. And i am not sticking my entire life into it. Its more of a "im in quarantine and want to gamble instead of on at a casino" type deal.

Im not going to put everything i own into it. Maybe a 1000 bucks or so. Would suck to lose it, but for the amount, i am ok with leaving it in for the long haul if i have too. I certainly feel within 6 months to a year they will be back running in full ships again. If i can make 3 or 4K on that 1K bucks in 6 months, i would be thrilled.

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I am a firm believer that the Markets are for investing and not for gambling. Most gamblers lose while most investors win.

Not criticizing, just sharing what I have seen. Its a mindset thang.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
I am a firm believer that the Markets are for investing and not for gambling. Most gamblers lose while most investors win.

Not criticizing, just sharing what I have seen. Its a mindset thang.

I hear that. But the way i look at it, i go into a casino willing and understanding i will more than likely lose.

If I take my 1000 bucks and lose it, i am happy i got to play. If i take my 1000 bucks and win, thats a cherry on the top smile Either way, I got to play the game. AS long as you only lose what you can afford to lose, your fine. thumbsup

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Interesting thinking but I have to admit I still have the first penny Momma gave me. blush

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Interesting thinking but I have to admit I still have the first penny Momma gave me. blush


She should have kept that penny and gave you morals, compassion for others, a basic education with communication skills, and wholesome liberal values instead. wink

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I also add, that we are in a shift demographically right now. Millennial's are now the majority of the workforce, and coming into the age range where they starting to pocket a few bucks. They also have been shown to rather spend money on experiences over toys. Meaning they would rather travel than say buy a new car or upgrade their house.

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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral

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One area that gets completely looked over is the Cruise ship industry


As they should. They have been irresponsible for years and they have their own laws out at sea. The fed owes them nothing!



Actually, this is one topic on which we agree.


Most are under foreign resister, and having been on 4, I was bored most of the time.


The drinks are weak and not all that many young women around the pool. OK, it is the curse I carry. I like to look at 50 year old women. LOL....ok 25isn't bad, but I have to be real.


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This is not political, but I'd like to hear what everyone thinks about what they are talking about in this clip.


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Too much sensationalism for me. There is definitely merit to the core discussion - but then it is one extreme and unsubstantiated comment after another to try to drive home a point. It's an example of what's wrong with most journalism today - reporting the news and facts aren't enough they need to spin it so it sounds more gripping.


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Yep, I think they go over the top driving home the point too, but the topic is worthy of discussion.

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Well, I stuck them toes back in the soup again late Friday...

We will see what this week holds.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Well, I stuck them toes back in the soup again late Friday...

We will see what this week holds.


rofl the cure is worse than the virus. GOPers pffft. They’re all pro life right up until it hits them square in the wallet. Then it’s die for me gramma... get back to work!

Markets probably going to take another hit this week due to the extension of the National stay home “pre Martial Law advisory another month.

Still no masks , ventilators federal help is non existent. Local Hospitals are on their own and scrambling because the fed is lying about the qty and quality of the federal aid being sent.


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The local stories of American ingenuity solving problems with stop gap style measures will offset the failures of the government response.

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The local stories of American ingenuity solving problems with stop gap style measures will offset the failures of the government response.


Sure hope that works...


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
The local stories of American ingenuity solving problems with stop gap style measures will offset the failures of the government response.


For someone that's been so intensely trumpeting socialism, this is a curious post.


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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The local stories of American ingenuity solving problems with stop gap style measures will offset the failures of the government response.


For someone that's been so intensely trumpeting socialism, this is a curious post.


Not when looking at the situation from the markets POV. Markets react to bad news and good news. If the government is failing it's responsibility, then the good news coming from state and local stories will be factored into the greed of Wall Street. If the government had the situation well in hand, trading would never have skipped a beat. So when a company like abbott labs finds a short term fix for the lack of PPE, that story mitigates the failure of the government being prepared at least to some extent. Any progress is good news to the markets.

And I'm not a socialism purest thinking the government should control the means of manufacturing. I believe the same thing Bernie Sanders believes, capitalism needs socialism to create strong economically fair checks and balances. The most important of these is a strong social safety net.

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I feel like I have a better understanding now of what you're advocating for.


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Well, I stuck them toes back in the soup again late Friday...

We will see what this week holds.


I have now made enough mun-nay in the last 3 weeks to buy my own freezer truck! thumbsup

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Now maybe you can go to New York and load it with dead bodies.


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No, this one is just for me if'n I need it. thumbsup

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I've noticed you seem to have a lot of "me" thinking.


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Instead of constantly lashing out and judging others, a little mirror time would serve you well.

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I'm just reporting what you post. If you find that judgemental, maybe it's your mirror you're having a problem with.

Making fun of owning a freezer truck at this time is what it is. And no matter how hard you try to deny that, you know it.


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He's gonna sell meat out of that truck...

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The question is, what kind of meat?


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Many experts are still saying we will be retesting bottom soon so don't put too much money to work just yet. Little at a time.

I am skimming profits and will be dipping a toe again in the future.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
The question is, what kind of meat?




Just for a little levity in an otherwise (and rightly so) morose topic ....


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Many experts are still saying we will be retesting bottom soon so don't put too much money to work just yet. Little at a time.

I am skimming profits and will be dipping a toe again in the future.


April 1st...the rent and mortgage are due. Banks are going to feel the pinch soon.


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Get ready guys. The stock market is about to make a major comeback today!


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I took 100 of my sons savings and bought him 10 shares of carnival - it was i think the other day priced at about 9.80 a share.

Over the last couple days its up a bit. I think over the nexy month or two though, its really going to jump. I have a feeling that they are going to get a big chunk of change from the government.

Yesterday, someone asked trump "why they would get tax payer money since they fly under a different flag". Normally, trump would be "america first" and "they aint getting a dime" - but he made excuses for giving them money. That kinda tipped that off for me.

Also, people have been cramped up in their houses for two weeks now, once this is over come may-june and we are out and about, people are going to want to vacation i think.

I can see this as a quick buy sell option. Im going to invest more as soon as i can. I am waiting for a transfer to hit my trading account to purchase more.


I look at the Cruise Lines like this...

-They are floating Petri dishes, I won't ever cruise again.

-People swore off airplanes after 9/11 and certainly swore they would never stand in line for an hour to be checked by security before boarding. Well they returned in droves and stand in line each time.

-They are registered under foreign nations but they do employ 100,000+ Americans.

-I agree, when this is over, people will be looking to travel.

Good luck on your call.
I dont disagree with that. And i am not sticking my entire life into it. Its more of a "im in quarantine and want to gamble instead of on at a casino" type deal.

Im not going to put everything i own into it. Maybe a 1000 bucks or so. Would suck to lose it, but for the amount, i am ok with leaving it in for the long haul if i have too. I certainly feel within 6 months to a year they will be back running in full ships again. If i can make 3 or 4K on that 1K bucks in 6 months, i would be thrilled.


I just saw a report that more people are booking cruises for 2021 than did last year!!!

Perhaps you are going to be correct on your call. Congrats! thumbsup

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The NASDAQ 100 just broke even for 2020.

Who da thunk it?

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Well anybody that knows anything about how the COVID bailouts go to the top 1% and propping up the markets would have. You would have to be an idiot to think these business are out there killing it during the shutdown. It's stock buyback socialism season in DC again.

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Well if you really believe that, why aren't you investing?

You know, growing your wealth.

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Some people didn't buy into the slave trade during the 1700's either.


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