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We're in the same boat for my son's graduation party. Its suppose to be memorial day weekend. Doubt it happens. Don't want to send out invites because of it.

If it doesn't come back positive in 6 minutes, wouldn't that mean it's negative?

I have a niece graduating college and a nephew graduating high school. The dual-party was going to be in June, now it will maybe be August or September. Maybe?

A local hospital did this.

13abc

Mercy Health builds device to sanitize personal protective equipment for first responders

TOLEDO (WTVG) - It's called the Covidnator. If you haven't heard of it, don't worry, it didn't even exist a week ago. Now, it's a piece of equipment vital to the fight against COVID-19.


If a piece of equipment is suspected of having come into contact with someone or some area with COVID-19, that equipment is placed inside the machine, which uses UV rays to disinfect it.

With personal protective equipment in short supply, it's important for first responders to have access to something that can extend the life of their gear.

"We have smaller departments that may have one box of masks, and that's all they'd need in normal times. We're not in normal times," Dr. Nicholas Sauber, Regional EMS Director, said. "The question is, what are we going to do with these. If we were going to throw them away like normal times, like single patient contact, we're going to be out in a week."

The process takes about five minutes, after which the gear is ready to take back out in the field. That includes equipment like goggles, masks, and gloves, which experts believe are some of the most susceptible to contamination.

Any first responders making a run to Mercy Health Saint Vincent's Medical Center can use it.

"It's something we have to do," Dr. Stephen Zohn said. "We have a crisis. This is folks in the E.D., the EMS, they're our family. We've got to protect our own."

The technology is pretty unprecedented and more sanitary than traditional washing, and it's so new -- and people are working so fluidly -- that Dr. Sauber said some of the pieces that make up the machine were found on Amazon.

And it's all to the keep people safe and stretch resources as far as possible.

If this can be mass produced quickly it could be a game changer for healthcare workers across the nation. That would be wonderful.

What are they going to do with the bodies I guess you freeze them, but wouldn't that be a lot of feezing ???

I don't think he is suggesting that the burials themselves were being postponed, but the services where people gather in mass. Not sure though.

True IDK how many people would go along with that, the one I did the other day there was almost a fight at the door because a friend of the Mother of the deceased was not going to be denied … But she was, just saying how people react to death

Interesting!

Not knocking the tech but heard just a few days ago that they had considered UV sterilization and found that it broke down the efficacy of the N95 masks. So I'm not sure about this, yet I'm hopeful.

j/c...

Rogue hospitals would not be a good thing. I like that he is talking about one plan for all hospitals in a region.

This will be interesting. In NW Ohio, the hospital organization is akin to the 2 party political system, with the same type of underhanded competition. In this case though, I think they will work together to do what's best for the population...unlike what the federal government is doing. I know a lot of people with both Promedica and Mercy Health (the 2 major players) and there are intelligent and compassionate people making decisions for them. We just need to keep the executives at a distance, lol.

There are a couple of problems with the use of UV. As a light source it has to penetrate the mask. Goggles and gloves are not a problem.

It would work better on a hard surface, but so would chlorine.

Heat may be an option as well.

Sorry, Bubba. It is what it is.

I swear that everyone at my work, my girlfriends work and many other people I know had this or something really really similar in late December or early January.

I personally think almost a million people have already been infected by the virus. If you look at how many flu cases are expected by March 28th and then multiply by the contagion factor of COVID-19 you get over one million (including Dec 2019).

Same here. Weekend after New Years we had two family members with very severe respiratory issues. Fortunately both are in their early twenties and recovered but it was a three week ordeal. Since I've talked to about 4 others who absolutely swear they had it. It didn't just show up after its Chinese rampage. People were flying to and from China long before it all started and it had to be here already.

I am surprised that no one has come up with some sort of device to do a "full body surface disinfecting" of a person entering the hospital .. where they would walk in, be disinfected, and then enter the rest of the way. (spray, UV, or other means)

The current means of checking for infection .... at least at my local hospital, is to ask the person coming in to disinfect his hands, and then asking them if they have a cough ... etc. However, is a person can be asymptomatic, even while highly communicable, then everyone should be treated as a potential carrier.

j/c:

I could be way off-base, but I'm really interested in us finding a drug that can help us fight off the virus.

Testing is great, but I think it's at the point where so many of us are going to get it, that it's more important to treat the virus than anything else.

Of course, finding a vaccine is even more important, but I feel that would be a longer way off.

Again, I could be totally wrong in my thinking and I will listen to why I am wrong.

Every time I go into a nursing home to see a client I have my temperature taken and get asked the same few questions about where I’ve traveled, and if I’ve had contact with anyone with the virus.
By the time I would run a temperature I’d have already been communicable for days or even weeks. No I haven’t traveled to China. I answer the last question as honestly as possible... “not that I’m aware”.
It’s all really a practice of futility. An attempt at control over something we have little control over. I hate that I may be a vector to our society’s most vulnerable.... but it’s my job. It’s scary and a strain on my personal ethics.

I had that and it hospitalized me twice. BUT it was definitely influenza type A as the test were positive.

J/C .... Just as an aside ..... the IRS has pushed the filing deadline back to July 15th.

Coronavirus Tax Relief | Internal Revenue Service
https://www.irs.gov/coronavirus

Since I have a history of pneumonia and having COPD, I usually take a heavy dose of vitamin and zinc tabs through the flu season. It generally helps to ward them off and or make them less severe. Yet I haven't heard any talk about anything like that with this virus. Nada. And I swear that the zinc nasal sprays kill colds and flu when you use them as soon as symptoms start, but again NADA. So I not only don't see a med to help fight it, a med to help prevent contraction, or a medical vaccine being a factor during this outbreak but I don't see medical professionals talking about anything but treating symptoms. And apparently eastern medicine has no answers either.

I think I worded my last post incorrectly.

I did not mean "fight it off" as in not contacting the disease. I meant receiving treatment that helps us fight the virus while we have it.

Sorry about that. It was a poor job of writing.

Here's the thing. I'm okay w/getting the virus and living. I'm not okay w/getting the virus and dying.

I just think a ton of us are getting--and are going to get--it. Treat the symptoms and keep us alive so we can live another day.

It's more than needing to treat the symptoms.

We need treatments/medications that prevent or mitigate the most severe effects, only one of which is the pneumonia. There are also issues with kidney damage and something else, along with permanent scarring of the lungs.

You're right.............I'm still not wording my thoughts correctly.

Maybe focus in on the part about living and dying? I can live w/being sick, but I can't live by dying........if you know what I'm sayin'?

I go through the same thing every morning. I shake my head as every day when I walk in the hospital, and every day that everyone else walks in, they can go through that same screening and have the virus, and can be passing it on to any number of people. That kind of screening isn’t very helpful. Short of having an instant test for everyone, every single day, which is never going to happen, everyone is a ticking time bomb walking through that healthcare facility.

So, I'm saying this is my list of priorities:

1. Dedicate a huge amount of time/funds to treatments that can keep people alive once they have COVID-19.

2. Dedicate almost just as much amount of time/funds to developing a viable vaccine.

3. Dedicate time to developing more testing.

*Note: I hate to add this and I really don't know where to place it, but I'm almost certain that a lot of time and resources have to still be dedicated to educating folks about the dangers of the virus and the importance of social distancing. It galls me to admit that we have so many ignorant folks, but that is the reality of the situation.

Good information.

Coronavirus patients taken off ventilators after getting HIV drug
https://nypost.com/2020/03/28/coronaviru...ental-hiv-drug/

Two coronavirus patients in New York City are off ventilators and out of intensive care after they received an experimental drug to treat HIV and breast cancer.

As the skyrocketing number of cases stretches city hospitals to the limit, doctors are racing to find out which drugs on the market or in development might help in fighting the infection.

The drug, leronlimab, is delivered by injection twice in the abdomen, the Daily Mail reported.

Of seven critically ill patients who received the drug in New York, two were removed from ventilators and two showed significant improvement.

Doctors right now don’t know quite how leronlimab works, but studies suggest it calms the overly aggressive immune response — known as a cytokine storm — that frequently leads to lung inflammation, pneumonia and potentially death.

CytoDyn, the drug’s manufacturer, could get FDA approval in six weeks if leronlimab continues to show promise. No drugs currently have FDA approval to treat the novel coronavirus.

This is what I'm talking about. Treat.

I hear you and I feel you, but we can't, bro.
If we do, we risk infecting so many people that our hospitals won't be able to keep up. Then, even more will die/suffer. And it will have been because we satisfied a need to physically express our empathy. For the time being, we simply can't. I know it sounds counterintuitive, but it's the absolute most caring and humane thing each of us can do right now.

It's an awful choice

This invisible thing is humbling an entire species at the moment.

We aren't smart.
We aren't prepared.
We aren't invulnerable.
We aren't superior.
We aren't safe.


Beneath the surface of everything I do, there exists this 'low hum of dread.' We aren't made to endure long periods of isolation. We are social creatures.

This is a war like none we've ever had. In the 1940's, we could at least stand 3 ft apart in our respective spots on the factory floor, while we built the tools that defeated Hitler and Tojo.

This thing is going to change us all.

Call me skeptical, but I have not seen a single reputable news agency report this news.

This goes back to the Daily Mail report which is hardly a credible news agency.

It seems to stem back to a press release by CytoDyn to investors.

Hopefully, I'm wrong and this does work.

Here's the link to CytoDyn's press release...

https://www.cytodyn.com/newsroom/press-r...severe-covid-19

Bummer.

Somewhat related here: When I've stopped at the Dollar Store over the last couple of weeks for cat food, I'd swing by the shelves that normally would have t.p. - not that we needed any, just wanted to see. Yup, sure enough, they were empty.

Earlier this week I read somewhere that vitamin C has been used to treat/help with covid19.....so, 2 days ago, getting cat food again, I went down the vitamin aisle.

Sure enough, NO vitamin c in the store. Now, I don't know about pharmacies around here, or grocery stores - whether they have any or not......


And, just this week, my brother from Denver sent a picture of a grocery store's beer aisle. Empty, other than the Corona section. (it was not his picture, it was not where he shops, it was probably a fake picture - but, I did laugh at that.)

And now you're seeing a shortage of hydroxychloroquine at pharmacies and the impact it's having on people that actually rely on the drug to treat diseases such as Lupus.

Lots of false flags being raised.

https://www.propublica.org/article/lupus...virus-treatment