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Originally Posted By: TTTDawg
This virus and these posts/threads always bring me back to election day, 1976. Every time I read em.

After my father passed away(brain cancer) in 1973, my mother straight up asked me(16yo) and my twin 13.5yo sisters "I'm moving to Florida, where you kids moving to"? rofl

5 days later.....gone.

My sisters were taken in by my aunt and uncle(mothers side). My grandparents(fathers side) didn't know this and after I being homeless for a few(3-4 days) they found out. I moved in with them.

Long story that happened long long ago that I've forgotten about. Or at least.....try not to think about.

My grandfather retired from GE Nela Pk after 35-40 years. Outta boredom he picked up a part time job as an evening watchman(4p-12a), Picker X-Ray. 2-3 days a week. They lived close(15min drive). Wickliffe.

On election day 1976 we(my first time) went and voted and as usual, he left for work at 3:30ish. After his shift was supposed to end and him supposed to be arriving home(12:15a-ish), no grandpa. Waited till 12:30-1a and I called Picker X-Ray on if he was still there.

Guy on the phone: "Who? "OH, YOU MEAN THE GUY THAT JUST HAD THE HEART ATTACK".

willynilly

Found out where the ambulance took him. Richmond Heights Hospital which was close. My grandmother and I, in a small room 15 feet outside of the Emergency room, listened to the Emergency Department working on him.

Loudly talking/yelling..."HANG IN THERE MR. P. HANG IN THERE!!!

After 15 mins of silence....we were notified of him dying.

No heart attack.

Pulmonary Adema. Lungs filled up with fluid.

Swine Flu complication...

To all.....please be smart/stay safe.









Damn, that's awful. The whole story.


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Man, that is such a sad, sad story.


Long time ago man. Long long long time ago.

Moral of the story? Hug the people you love tonight. And again tomorrow night, and, and, etc, etc.

Like everything, you never know.....until you do.





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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
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I will bet you grew up strong and able to stand on your own two feet during hard times.


Ya know 40, deep down, it's prob why in my first 34 years in the workforce I never missed a day of work. Never.

Heck. In HS I missed 44 days of school my senior year. Why? Skipped school and went into work...hoping....

I'm positive they(HS) passed/graduated me cause of my circumstances. They knew.

Work: "Whaddya doin here. Aren't you supposed to be in school?"

Me: "Well ,.....yea"....

Work: "Ok kid, punch in."

Then the knee replacements, the failed back surg's, cancer, etc, etc started kicking in.

I've looked/searched on wherever(Facebook, etc) for the people that knew and helped me out. Just wanna thank em.

It's virtually impossible to find anyone from 45 years ago. Nada.





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If it wasn't for the Pandemic Plague, I would be proud to shake your hand Sir. thumbsup

There is another man on here I respect like this from the way he lead his life. He goes by Arch. Maybe you heard of him. wink

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My wife got a call this morning about another mutual friend that she was supposed to go out to dinner with about 3 weeks or so ago.
This woman is probably in her late 40's early 50's and does have a pre-existing condition-high blood pressure and i think low oxygen levels

But her mutual friend cancelled the dinner cause she wasn't feeling good. She was also planning for her daughters wedding and had people over the house during the weekend and just thought she was getting a cold. She had felt like that for 2 or 3 days with a cough. Went on the telemed with Cleveland Clinic because she wanted to be tested for COVID cause she wasn't feeling any better. They told her no they couldn't test her, she isn't bad enough.

They told her to take it easy and told her to take something.

The very next day she had unreal chest pressure, shortness of breath, fever, etc-she called back the same number and they told her to get to the hospital as soon as she can.

She said that she was in the hospital for 8 days. She thought she was going to die. She said that it was like having a cold, bronchitis, and pneumonia all at the same time and then multiplying it by 100. And she was never bad enough to be put on a ventilator, although she felt she had to be close-she really thought she was going to die. She has never felt pain like this.

What this lady said is whatever you have to do to not get this, do it. The don't have the damn test, they are not giving the damn test and they really don't how to treat it or why it is so much worse in some people vs others.

At about the 6th day she was in pretty bad shape and they treated her with something, she don't know what it was-she said it might have been hydrocloronque (sp) or something else-all she knows is within a couple days she was feeling alot better and was ready to go home.

She still is having shortness of breath but feels much better, cause she couldn't have felt any worse.

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Well that treatment is hopeful.

We all just need to hang in there until they find more treatments and eventually a vaccine.

Until then its a roll of the dice.

Stay safe all.

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Man, that is such a sad, sad story.


Long time ago man. Long long long time ago.

Moral of the story? Hug the people you love tonight. And again tomorrow night, and, and, etc, etc.

Like everything, you never know.....until you do.


I hope this makes you feel better.

I was talking to my wife about your story because it really struck an emotional nerve. I told her it was such a sad story on so many levels. Your dad, your mom, your sisters, and your gramps. Damn man!

Then I told her what a great guy you are. I told her how you PM me for football advice and how positive you always are. I told her what a good-natured soul you have. I told her how there are so many keyboard warriors on here who love insulting others, and then there is a guy like you, who has reasons to perhaps be bitter.......and you never display any of those negative qualities.

Kudos to you, bro. You're one hell of a man! And I mean that from the bottom of my heart!

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CDC Now Recommends Americans Voluntarily Wear Cloth Masks In Public : Coronavirus Live Updates : NPR
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus...masks-in-public

President Trump said Friday the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention now recommends that people wear cloth or fabric face coverings, which can be made at home, when entering public spaces such as grocery stores and public transit stations. It is mainly to prevent those people who have the virus — and might not know it — from spreading the infection to others.

The guidelines do not give many details about coverings beyond: "cloth face coverings fashioned from household items or made at home from common materials at low cost can be used as an additional, voluntary public health measure."

Trump emphasized that wearing masks in public is voluntary and said he will not be doing so.

U.S. health authorities had discouraged healthy Americans from wearing facial coverings for weeks, saying they were likely to do more harm than good in the fight against the coronavirus — but now, as researchers have learned more about how the highly contagious virus spreads, officials have changed their recommendations.

U.S. health authorities have long maintained that face masks should be reserved only for medical professionals and patients suffering from COVID-19, the deadly disease caused by the coronavirus. The CDC had based this recommendation on the fact that such coverings offer little protection for wearers, and the need to conserve the country's alarmingly sparse supplies of personal protective equipment.

Still, as the virus spread to every state in the U.S., it has become clear that people can contract and spread the virus without showing symptoms, rendering it difficult — if not impossible — to distinguish healthy from infected individuals without a formal test. So, it may protect other people who come into contact with the unknowing individual.

And the mask need not be professional-grade to offer some benefit. In fact, officials say it probably shouldn't be: The CDC recommends constructing your own cloth mask, so as to help ensure that doctors and nurses can obtain access to medical-grade surgical or N95 masks amid a widespread shortage of supplies.

With this announcement, the U.S. is following the lead of a number of other countries that have been urging — or outright ordering — their residents to don masks in public. The expanding list includes China and South Korea, where officials have even taken the step of distributing masks.

And while the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control continues to discourage the use of face masks, some European countries, such as Austria and the Czech Republic, have told their residents to cover up their mouths and noses before entering a store.

This week, the mayors of Los Angeles and New York City also urged residents to do the same.


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Tks Vers....

In life, all people, including people on these forums/threads have had it better than me, the same as me, or worse than me. Mine is just one story of millions of stories.

The just put it in the correct threads.

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I didn't see this posted yet.

My wife, a Cleve Clinic RN, mentioned something about this to me a day or 3 ago. She heard there was a meeting about it.

A possible 2.2 million square foot temporary hospital.

https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/i-x-ce...ces-tell-fox-8/

CLEVELAND (WJW) -- The I-X Center is being evaluated to serve as a possible site for an alternate medical facility amid the coronavirus pandemic, sources tell FOX 8.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and Ohio National Guard were at the center Monday morning and planned to evaluate at least three sites in Northeast Ohio.

Hospital capacity is expected to be stretched to its limits and temporary hospitals have already been set up in other states, including New York.

The I-X Center is now available, as planned shows have been canceled due to state orders limiting large gatherings.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Buffalo District said it has deployed field assessment teams to evaluate facilities in Ohio, New York and Pennsylvania for possible conversion into alternate care facilities. It said personnel from the Federal Emergency Management Agency and state and local emergency management and medical personnel are also taking part in initial and in-depth site assessments at multiple locations determined by state leaders.

“We have a diverse, multi-disciplined workforce that can cover every facet of medical facility construction. We’re experienced in it,” said U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Buffalo District Chief of Operations Josh Feldmann.

He said the Army Corps is evaluating infrastructure for use as a temporary hospital, including electricity, sewer and HVAC capabilities.

“What were looking for mostly is space and usable space, usable for a medical facility,” Feldmann said.

Ohio Department of Health Director Dr. Amy Acton said Monday that the state wants to double healthcare capacity, and convention center facilities, such as the I-X Center, may be used to treat mildly ill patients.

Feldmann said state leaders will decide on sites, and the Army Corps will oversee construction by contractors. It will be up to the state to supply and staff facilities. Construction may be completed within weeks, according to Feldmann.

“Speed is of the essence here. We're trying to get out in front of the curve, in front of the peak, so these facilities are in place for whatever the state decides they wants to use them for,” Feldmann said.

The Ohio National Guard said it is assisting in the search for facilities.

"The Ohio National Guard is assisting the Ohio Department of Health and Ohio Emergency Management Agency to identify potential sites for alternate medical facilities, and you may see Guard personnel visiting some of those sites," Ohio National Guard Public Information Officer Stephanie Beougher said in a statement provided to FOX 8.

"The National Guard is supporting the governor and the state of Ohio in a proactive and united whole of government approach to expanding its medical capacity in anticipation of the projected COVID-19 outbreak peak."

A spokesperson for the Ohio Department of Health said no decision has been made on alternate sites, and all options are still on the table.

Below is the IX Center website.

IX Center
http://www.ixcenter.com/about/

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Want to see what google does with all the phone data they track? Some interesting data.

https://www.google.com/covid19/mobility/

Uses location data collected from products such as google maps to track where people have been and shows the trends since covd19 policies have been put in place.

Here's the link for Ohio (pdf)

The first link has list of countries and USA is broken down by state.


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I’m not sure if I’ll be wearing a mask (I don’t really go out besides to exercise alone or a quick store trip) ... but it’ll be interesting to see if their recommendation changes in a few days


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That is interesting to see, but also disturbing to see just how easily so many people can be tracked in detail.

Well, this disease just got confirmed personal for me. A friend of mine, who was also my partner in a couple of Master's Crossfit competitions last year, was just put in ICU on a ventilator at Fairview Hospital last night. frown

48 years old, crazy strong and healthy with lungs and cardio capacity most people can barely fathom... and it has him. He apparently started to feel I'll on 24 March, visited the ER on 29 March. Tested positive and was immediately hospitalized on 30 March. He is getting the vitamin C, Z-pak, and hydroxychloroquine, but no response, yet.


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Oh boy. So sorry to hear this. To be in that good of cv shape and still fall prey to the virus. Prayers that his fitness will help him recover.


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Sorry to hear that Purp, I hope he pulls through.

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Hope all goes well Purp. Prayers from here.





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Sorry to hear this about your friend. Sadly it just goes to show that when it comes down to it, you never know who can get hit hard by this thing.


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That was very interesting article in the NYT. Here are a couple other graphs from that article that show travels rates and how it correlates to spread rate. Doesn't look good for the south.

*The date cutoff is also March 27th in the first image.




https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/02/us/coronavirus-social-distancing.html

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My heart and prayers go out to him, his family, you, and all the rest of his friends. None of us will ever be able to figure out why some healthy people have died or become very sick from this virus while others who are in bad health survive, or don't get infected. For Christians I can say it's gods will. For non Christians I can only shrug my shoulders and weep for you all frown


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Next door neighbor was rushed to the hospital 2 days ago.

Spoke with his wife, he tested positive.

I hear footsteps.


He died last night.

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Sorry to hear that 40. Best wishes to his family moving forward.


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Dammit. I am sorry to hear that frown


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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Yep, went pretty fast.

Good luck with your pal Purp.

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That was very interesting article in the NYT. Here are a couple other graphs from that article that show travels rates and how it correlates to spread rate. Doesn't look good for the south.

*The date cutoff is also March 27th in the first image.




https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/02/us/coronavirus-social-distancing.html


There is a logical reason for this, you know. Spring is a lot further along in the South. Once the North warms up a bit more yall be driving around like fools also. wink


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
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Next door neighbor was rushed to the hospital 2 days ago.

Spoke with his wife, he tested positive.

I hear footsteps.


He died last night.


So very sorry 40

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That is interesting to see, but also disturbing to see just how easily so many people can be tracked in detail.

Well, this disease just got confirmed personal for me. A friend of mine, who was also my partner in a couple of Master's Crossfit competitions last year, was just put in ICU on a ventilator at Fairview Hospital last night. frown

48 years old, crazy strong and healthy with lungs and cardio capacity most people can barely fathom... and it has him. He apparently started to feel I'll on 24 March, visited the ER on 29 March. Tested positive and was immediately hospitalized on 30 March. He is getting the vitamin C, Z-pak, and hydroxychloroquine, but no response, yet.


Sorry Purp, hope he pulls through

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So sorry Purp , hope he pulls through .. Condolences 40 !

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Sorry to hear that 40.

Hits home a little harder when it's someone's(on here) neighbor.





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Sorry to hear of this. There are likely more "just got real" moments coming for all of us.

An ex co worker of mine - well, her daughter and grand daughter's doctor was just recently diagnosed with covid. The grand daughter had just recently been to him for a physical.

He's now hospitalized, on a vent, and not doing well. The daughter and grand daughter, as well as the husband and 2 other kids, are now quarantined for 14 days. NO leaving the house.

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I pray for all of the victims, and their families. I pray God blesses all (and their families) with healing by His divine grace.


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I think I'm just going to do my shopping at mom n pop places. Support small business, plus fewer people there so less chance of infection.

If everyone did that, our country's economy would be fine


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
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Next door neighbor was rushed to the hospital 2 days ago.

Spoke with his wife, he tested positive.

I hear footsteps.


He died last night.


I am sorry to hear that as well.


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I think I'm just going to do my shopping at mom n pop places. Support small business, plus fewer people there so less chance of infection.

If everyone did that, our country's economy would be fine


You know, I thought this was a great idea. Then I realized I don't have a mom and pop type grocery/convenience store anywhere around here.

edit: Did some searching and found one 10 mi away. I know there are a few people from my area on here. It's Jack's Superette in Curtice. I've actually been in there before.


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I think I'm just going to do my shopping at mom n pop places. Support small business, plus fewer people there so less chance of infection.

If everyone did that, our country's economy would be fine


You know, I thought this was a great idea. Then I realized I don't have a mom and pop type grocery/convenience store anywhere around here.

edit: Did some searching and found one 10 mi away. I know there are a few people from my area on here. It's Jack's Superette in Curtice. I've actually been in there before.



Maybe try ethnic markets also. There are Mexican markets here that have meat and food.


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The only problem w/the Mom and Pop stores is I doubt they can clean/sterilize their stores like the bigger stores do.

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