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Trump says he opposes mail-in voting for November

President Trump on Friday said he's confident the general election in November won't be delayed by the coronavirus, but he rejected the idea of having every state prepare to conduct mail-in voting.

The president, speaking at the daily White House briefing on the pandemic, made clear he does not support using vote-by-mail as a backstop in the event the outbreak keeps people from going to the polls.

“No, because I think a lot of people cheat with mail-in voting," said Trump, who has levied baseless accusations about voter fraud that he claims kept him from winning the popular vote in 2016. "I think people should vote with ID, voter ID. I think voter ID is very important, and the reason they don’t want voter ID is because they intend to cheat."

“It shouldn’t be mail-in voting," he added. "It should be you go to a booth and you proudly display yourself. You don’t send it in the mail where people can pick up — all sorts of bad things can happen … by the time it gets in and is tabulated."

Democrats have pushed for additional funding to bolster mail-in and absentee voting availability. Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and others argue that voting by mail could be necessary in the event the virus is still prevalent and keeps poll workers and voters from casting their ballots in November.

The coronavirus relief package signed into law last week by Trump included $400 million for states to beef up preparations for primaries and the general election during the coronavirus crisis. Democrats had initially pushed for $4 billion.

Trump and other Republicans have largely rejected the idea of widespread vote-by-mail, with some arguing it would harm the electoral prospects of GOP candidates.

The president on Friday said the general election will go forward as scheduled Nov. 3, even though numerous states have postponed their primaries or moved them to all-mail ballots amid the pandemic.

In Wisconsin, the state is expected to go forward with its primary on Tuesday. Gov. Tony Evers (D) on Friday urged the state legislature to allow all-mail voting and accept ballots cast in the coming weeks.

Trump criticized Evers while highlighting his support for a judicial candidate in Wisconsin.

"Why didn’t he do this two weeks ago?" Trump said at the briefing. "All of a sudden an election, which is taking place very soon, gets delayed. Now, I just endorsed him today, and it was a very strong endorsement... and all of a sudden the governor comes out, the Democrat governor, by the way, comes out and says, 'Oh, we're going to move this election.'"

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491126-trump-says-he-opposes-mail-in-voting-for-november

He'd rather his supporters risk there lives? Maybe Covid-19 will be gone by then...

Well you know he said that if mail in voting happens Republicans will never win another election, so......

Love my mail in voting in Oregon. So easy.

Like I said, if we can't have a normal election come November, we need to put it off a couple of years till things simmer down.

Even if it takes a Decade.

I would imagine things would be baking o normal unless there was a second wave.... if that's the case then we'd need to mail in... or online vote...

Five States Face Federal Lawsuit Over Inaccurate Voter Registrations
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By Mark Hemingway

January 07, 2020

Five States Face Federal Lawsuit Over Inaccurate Voter Registrations


In 378 U.S. counties, voter registration rates exceed 100% of the adult population, meaning there are more voter registrations on file than the total voting-age population, according to a new analysis by the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch.

Based on data the federal Electoral Assistance Commission released last year, the new analysis indicates that a minimum of 2.5 million voter registrations are wrongly listed as valid. It suggests widespread lack of compliance with the National Voter Registration Act (NVRA), which requires states to remove people who have died, moved, or are otherwise ineligible to vote from the rolls. While having excess registrations isn’t proof of voter fraud, voter integrity advocates note that it does create opportunities for deception, such as allowing people to vote twice in different precincts or submit invalid absentee ballots.

Last week, Judicial Watch sent letters to election officials in 19 counties in five states – California, Colorado, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Virginia – warning that they could face a federal lawsuit for their failure to update voter rolls.

Eleven of the 19 counties are located in California, which has had habitual problems updating its voter rolls. Last year, Los Angeles County settled a lawsuit and agreed to clean up its voter rolls after Judicial Watch revealed that it had 1.6 million more voter registrations on file than the eligible voting population in the county. As of last year, the entire state of California had a voter registration rate of 101%.

It doesn’t appear that California counties have fixed the problem. San Diego County removed 500,000 voter registrations from its rolls last year following Los Angeles’ settlement, but according to Judicial Watch’s analysis of federal data, San Diego still has a registration rate of 117% – one of the highest in the country.

While the majority of the 19 counties singled out by Judicial Watch have voter registration rates exceeding 100%, some have voter registration rates exceeding 90%, which is improbably high if not impossible. But in every county, Judicial Watch asserts that there’s a demonstrable failure to keep voter rolls accurate.

The four counties singled out by Judicial Watch in Pennsylvania – Allegheny, Chester, Bucks, and Delaware – have voter registration rates ranging between 96% and 98%. Judicial Watch notes that the number of voter registrations removed from the rolls in each county the previous two-year period is 72, eight, five, and four, respectively.

“If few or no voters were removed . . . the jurisdiction is obviously failing to comply. . . . States must report the number of such removals to the [Electoral Assistance Commission],” said Robert Popper, former deputy chief of the Voting Section in the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice, who now works on voting issues for Judicial Watch, in a press release.

With more than 1.2 million residents, Allegheny County is the second most populous in Pennsylvania. Invalidating only 72 voter registrations is “an absurdly low figure for a county of this size,” notes Judicial Watch’s letter to the Allegheny County Council and the Pennsylvania secretary of state. “If this figure is accurate, it establishes beyond any dispute that the County is not complying with the NVRA.” Census data confirms that more than one in 10 Americans move every year, and there were obviously more than 72 deaths in the Pittsburgh area over the last two-years.

Another issue raised by Judicial Watch is the number of inactive registrations, such as when a voter hasn’t voted in successive elections or has failed to respond to state inquiries asking them to confirm their address and otherwise validate their registration.

In its letter to Orange County, California Judicial Watch notes that the county has a voter registration rate of 96%. However, Judicial Watch’s letter notes that there are about 380,000 inactive voter registrations on the county’s rolls, or about one in every five registrations – another strong indication that the voting rolls aren’t being systemically updated. (Additionally, Orange County, with a population of 3.2 million, has the distinction of reporting that it did not remove a single voter registration from its rolls over the previous two years.)

The issue of cleaning up voter rolls has become acute over the last year in part due to a 2018 Supreme Court decision, Husted v. A. Philip Randolph Institute. While the decision upheld the state of Ohio’s specific provisions for determining which voter registrations are inactive or invalid, the high court’s decision also clarified the intent of the NVRA’s provisions to keep voter rolls accurate.

Previously some states had relied on questionable interpretations of the law to avoid cleaning up voter rolls. In 1998, California got authority from Clinton administration Attorney General Janet Reno to reinterpret the NVRA enforcement provisions, an interpretation that the Supreme Court determined was a misreading of the law in Husted.

Partisan considerations aside, one factor in the sorry state of America’s voter rolls is the cost. Last year after Judicial Watch also threatened a federal lawsuit over Kentucky’s inability to keep accurate voter rolls, the office of Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes blamed a lack of “proper funding” and “budget shortfalls” for why the state had fallen behind.

The upshot is that after decades of neglect, hundreds of counties in this country have millions upon millions of inaccurate voter registrations – and the problem is widespread in Republican “red” and Democratic “blue” counties alike. Some critics see legal action by the judiciary as the best way to force the legislative and executive branches of government to do their duty to ensure the integrity of the nation’s elections process. Judicial Watch says its decision to send letters to five states representing a small fraction of the 378 counties in apparent violation of federal law may only be a first step in its efforts to clean up voter rolls in the coming year.

“The litigation is complex so filing five lawsuits would be significant,” Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton told RealClearPolitics. “The other counties are also on our radar and will not escape scrutiny.”


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl...ns__142089.html

Exactly as the dems want it.

Hey, If I die from covid, or something else before the election, can someone make sure I didn't vote for Biden?

Too late bro, you already voted for him... twice.

It's obvious some on this thread are for crooked elections.

We agree on this... Republicans and Trump supporters.

You do know that funeral homes are required to report deaths to the govt right? Pfft GOPers.

Of course he’s against it, anything to squelch us from voting is trumps and his sheep ultimate plan. They all project their flaws on others by calling this voter fraud suppression. Something they can’t prove. Yet red states continue to show gerrymander districts to favor Republican candidates. Pffft the trump era.

Oh dear, we can't hold a legitimate election with that going on. This could take years to fix, maybe a decade.

Trump needs to drop the Hamma on holding FAKE elections.

Oh no ... there’s no voter fraud and illegals don’t vote ... just ask you buddy Roy .. *L* ...

comments like this make me think that maybe, just maybe this whole Covid 19 thing was put together between China, Trump and Republicans to take over America.

Remember, the first country that Hitler attacked was Germany

Ya cause the republicans are the ones handing out drivers licenses to illegals and busing folks to different states and getting caught red handed running fraudulent voter registration drives ... one again your spot on ...

I don't know if they are or aren't doing that, I suspect that it isn't that simple. But for sure Republicans are Gerrymandering districts (and have been for years) and doing anything to promote Voter Suppression.

They want to stop Americans of Color from voting. They know a high voter turn out means no republican will ever occupy the Oval office again.

If you don't believe me, just listen to the orange genius in the White House.. He just said it.

Show me where .... I do know of only one case of voter fraud. It happened in my home state of NC.

Despite all the NOISE the Alt Right like to create about voter fraud .... this is what I know.

1. Trump commissioned a costly and thorough review of voter fraud ..... it found basically nothing.

https://apnews.com/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d/Report:-Trump-commission-did-not-find-widespread-voter-fraud

2. The people caught and prosecuted for voter fraud were Republicans.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/30/us/mccrae-dowless-indictment.html

But damn I forgot .... #factsdontmatter to some

Pick a state...

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

Bless your heart.

Are you freaking kidding me?

1277 cases of voter fraud ..... going back 16+ years? NATIONWIDE

Less than 80 cases annualized. Just looking at presidential voting - 129 million people voting and 80 fraudulent votes?

0.0000062% of the vote ?


Anyone worrying about voter fraud has clearly lost the plot. To borrow a line from Lewis Black - we need to worry about "are we eating too much garlic as a Nation" before voter fraud gets to the top of the list.

How about tackling gerrymandering and the proactive efforts to make it harder to vote - something real that is impacting tens of thousands - maybe 100's of thousands of voters? Pfffft. What a crock of horse manure.

Making it harder to vote was discussed recently - and apparently it was no big deal to close voting stations and create long lines or force people to travel longer distances to vote .... but 'maybe' 80 fraudulent votes a year in our nation of 300 million is a HUGE deal. smdh

Now the real truth comes out on what these guys really think ...Stay Strong 40

eew boy ....that’s wide spread voter fraud alright? : and I bet half of them voted for trump anyways ....pffft that’s all you got showing wide spread voter fraud? Wanna see some GOPer gerrymandering districts? Probably not. Pfft

888, OCD, Perfect and Portland all live on that same one way street ...

888

Let me guess they don’t talk about ACORN on that fine one way street u live on ... ...

Judicial Watch is the SCLC of the right wing.

Hey, pal, you said you've only known of one case! I posted many cases! We've all seen this Al Franken movie before and know where this is leading!

so gerrymandering goes ignored as usual ...pfffft

"The mission of The Heritage Foundation is to formulate and promote conservative public policies"...

Well that looks like a source full of unbiased information based or real facts. BUT you saw it on the internet so it must be true.

Is this some kind of code? The bolded 888 makes me think you are making a white nationalist accusation of some kind...

Fear mongering and tin foil hats is where it leads, you are proof.

Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud

PORTLAND, Maine (AP) — The now-disbanded voting integrity commission launched by the Trump administration uncovered no evidence to support claims of widespread voter fraud, according to an analysis of administration documents released Friday.

In a letter to Vice President Mike Pence and Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who are both Republicans and led the commission, Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap said the documents show there was a “pre-ordained outcome” and that drafts of a commission report included a section on evidence of voter fraud that was “glaringly empty.”

“It’s calling into the darkness, looking for voter fraud,” Dunlap, a Democrat, told The Associated Press. “There’s no real evidence of it anywhere.”

Republican President Donald Trump convened the commission to investigate the 2016 presidential election after making unsubstantiated claims that between 3 million and 5 million ballots were illegally cast. Critics, including Dunlap, reject his claims of widespread voter fraud.

The Trump administration last month complied with a court order to turn over documents from the voting integrity commission to Dunlap. The commission met just twice and has not issued a report.

Dunlap’s findings received immediate pushback Friday from Kobach, who acted as vice chair of the commission while Pence served as chair.

“For some people, no matter how many cases of voter fraud you show them, there will never be enough for them to admit that there’s a problem,” said Kobach, who is running for Kansas governor and has a good chance of unseating the incumbent, Jeff Colyer, in the Republican primary Tuesday.

“It appears that Secretary Dunlap is willfully blind to the voter fraud in front of his nose,” Kobach said in a statement released by his spokesman.

Kobach said there have been more than 1,000 convictions for voter fraud since 2000, and that the commission presented 8,400 instances of double voting in the 2016 election in 20 states.

“Had the commission done the same analysis of all 50 states, the number would have been exponentially higher,” Kobach said.

In response, Dunlap said those figures were never brought before the commission, and that Kobach hasn’t presented any evidence for his claims of double voting. He said the commission was presented with a report claiming over 1,000 convictions for various forms of voter misconduct since 1948.

“The plural of anecdote is not data,” Dunlap said in his Friday letter to the shuttered commission’s leaders.

Pence’s office did not immediately respond to a request for comment Friday.

Dunlap said he is unsure whether the administration has released all relevant documents, and said the matter is in litigation. He said he was repeatedly rebuffed when he sought access to commission records including meeting materials, witness invitations and correspondence.

Dunlap released his findings on a website .

Emails released by Dunlap and promoted by the nonprofit American Oversight, which represented Dunlap, include examples of Republican voting integrity commissioners emailing each other as they worked on information requests without including Democrats.

“Indeed, a very few commissioners worked to buttress their pre-ordained conclusions shielded from dissent or dialogue from those commissioners not included in the discussions,” Dunlap said in his Friday letter.

In a June 2017 email, commissioner Christy McCormick unsuccessfully tried to suggest that the commission hire a statistician she knew. “When I was at DOJ, we had numerous discussions that made me pretty confident that he is conservative (and Christian, too),” said McCormick, in reference to the U.S. Department of Justice.

The emails also show some commission members had planned to ask for an interstate database used to identify duplicate voter registrations, as well as lists of individuals deemed ineligible for federal jury service due to death, relocation, convictions or lack of citizenship. It wasn’t clear in the emails whether or not such requests ended up being fulfilled, Dunlap said.

In two November 2017 emails, Republican commission member and election lawyer J. Christian Adams emailed all members and said there hadn’t been any prosecutions for double voting or any non-citizen voting in years. “Understanding the extent of un-prosecuted and known election crimes can inform the commission’s recommendations,” Adams said.

Adams also called for U.S. Customs and Immigration Services to obtain metadata from citizenship applications as well as a list of individuals removed from the U.S. due to their unlawful participation in elections.

“Many applicants note they have been registered to vote and are voting,” Adams said.

https://apnews.com/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d/Report:-Trump-commission-did-not-find-widespread-voter-fraud

Trump tried the same BS you're peddling and failed miserably.

Bro, you have to source it from an alt-right propaganda site for Fish to believe it.

All he has to do is show that the special committee Trump launched actually found something. They didn't. He purposely composed a commission to try and prove that Democrats were committing wide spread voter fraud and found nothing.

Hey Pal ... and my response that anyone concerned with something happening .0000062% is not worth worrying about.

What I said was accurate. Yes - there is more than one case, you showed me, thanks.

What you proved is that it is not worth worrying about. That was the same conclusions Trump's hand picked team came up with.

Thanks Pal.

You want to worry about voter fraud and something that happens at a .00000062% rate ... knock yourself out. Since your so good at 0+0 math and all tell me what power of 10 that percentile is.

Oh, but it is worth worrying about. There's more where this article came from:





By Rowan Scarborough

- The Washington Times -

Monday, June 19, 2017

A research group in New Jersey has taken a fresh look at postelection polling data and concluded that the number of noncitizens voting illegally in U.S. elections is likely far greater than previous estimates.

As many as 5.7 million noncitizens may have voted in the 2008 election, which put Barack Obama in the White House.

The research organization Just Facts, a widely cited, independent think tank led by self-described conservatives and libertarians, revealed its number-crunching in a report on national immigration.



Just Facts President James D. Agresti and his team looked at data from an extensive Harvard/YouGov study that every two years questions a sample size of tens of thousands of voters. Some acknowledge they are noncitizens and are thus ineligible to vote.

Just Facts’ conclusions confront both sides in the illegal voting debate: those who say it happens a lot and those who say the problem nonexistent.


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/

Well Trump needs firing quickly then .... 5.7 million fraudulent voters (allegedly) and Trump's hand picked investigation didn't find any of 'em.

Either Trump is even more incompetent than his handling of CV-19 is indicating or the 5.7 million "may have voted" is really just a big fat enormous pile of steaming dung.... of course, makes the Trump faithful salivate. Makes me think of the scene from 'I am Legend' when all the crazies are salivating and frothing at the mouth on the other side of the glass.

And let's not forget YOUR SOURCE - the Heritage Foundation with a vested interest in making this bigger - found all of 1277 cases dating back 14+ years or whatever it was. Pffft.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/20...harge-corrupte/

Amazing what you can find if you go below the surface.

But like I said - even the lies get the Trump faithful frothing like rabid faithful. Or should that be "especially the lies" .... after all that's what spews out of Trump's mouth most of the time.