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Mail-in voting in Oregon has worked for decades, says Republican

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch...e-voting-record


This guy passed away 2 years ago! rofl


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Only mail in votes that should be allowed are from military personnel. No one else.

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Oregon says different and has for decades with no problems.


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If the libs here are good with mail in voting its prob bad for fair
and honest elections bank on it.... SMH.


And given his propensity for lying and misleading, if trump is against mail in elections, it's probably good for America. Bank on it


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Only mail in votes that should be allowed are from military personnel. No one else.


So my Mom in law, 87 years young but unable to stand in long lines can't vote by mail?

Are you saying senior citizens who regularly vote by absentee ballots should have their votes not count?

If trump and republicans don't want it, you can bet they are worried. Perhaps they should be.


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I've voted by mail for the last 4 years. Best thing I ever did.

Standing in a long line in the Florida heat is just not fun, not to mention the time off work.

The last time I voted in person, I spent the first 15-20 minutes driving around and around waiting for a parking spot, then stood in line, a large portion in direct sun, for just over 2 hours.

This was at 7:30 am. I sweat so much standing there, I went home and took another shower and changed before heading to work.

Screw that, mail in for the win.


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Originally Posted By: FloridaFan
I've voted by mail for the last 4 years. Best thing I ever did.

Standing in a long line in the Florida heat is just not fun, not to mention the time off work.

The last time I voted in person, I spent the first 15-20 minutes driving around and around waiting for a parking spot, then stood in line, a large portion in direct sun, for just over 2 hours.

This was at 7:30 am. I sweat so much standing there, I went home and took another shower and changed before heading to work.

Screw that, mail in for the win.


You're not a real American. Only a real American would wait in the heat to exercise a right that soldiers fought for. You must be wanting people to vote multiple times to help the deepstate come back into power. That sweat coming down your brow shows the mark of a true patriot. We must sweat our glands to defeat socialism. Only through in-person voting can we defeat George Soros.

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You're not a real American. Only a real American would wait in the heat to exercise a right that soldiers fought for. You must be wanting people to vote multiple times to help the deepstate come back into power. That sweat coming down your brow shows the mark of a true patriot. We must sweat our glands to defeat socialism. Only through in-person voting can we defeat George Soros.


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If the libs here are good with mail in voting its prob bad for fair
and honest elections bank on it.... SMH.


And given his propensity for lying and misleading, if trump is against mail in elections, it's probably good for America. Bank on it




It's President Trump. I have always shown respect for the office and person even if I didn't vote for the person.


Show respect or just go away. Serious as a heat attack here.


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If the libs here are good with mail in voting its prob bad for fair
and honest elections bank on it.... SMH.


And given his propensity for lying and misleading, if trump is against mail in elections, it's probably good for America. Bank on it




It's President Trump. I have always shown respect for the office and person even if I didn't vote for the person.


Show respect or just go away. Serious as a heat attack here.


Respect is earned. Trump has done zero as President to earn respect. The office itself deserves a certain degree of respect, but if a person isn't living up to their end of the bargain, they don't deserve respect just because.

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U and yours had such open minds on Mr. President when he took office ... I’m shocked he hasn’t “earned” your respect ... rolleyes




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U and yours had such open minds on Mr. President when he took office ... I’m shocked he hasn’t “earned” your respect ... rolleyes




I think it's hilarious that you group me in with anybody. You say "you and yours" like I have a huge history in this forum, or that you have any clue whatsoever what my political leanings are.

But you are a little bit right. I thought Trump and Hillary were two of the dumbest people possible to ever run against each other in election. So far neither has done much to change my mind.

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Show respect or just go away. Serious as a heat attack here.


Nobody is going to do that. Respect is given when respect is earned. When all someone can do is disrespect anyone and everyone who disagree with them, they get no respect in return.

I guess you feel we should respect a man who mocked a disabled reporter? Who called a woman a pig? Who claimed McCain isn't a war hero?

You, if you're serious you need to think again.


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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen

It's President Trump.


rolleyes

Not now nor ever has he been my president. He's made it perfectly clear time after time, he's only president for republicans, mostly Trumpians and yes men.

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So i was right ... *LOL* ....

The fact u think trumps stupid is a definite sign of your intelligence ... based off that statement alone i can tell your intelligence couldn’t carry Trumps jock straps intelligence ... thumbsup




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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
So i was right ... *LOL* ....

The fact u think trumps stupid is a definite sign of your intelligence ... based off that statement alone i can tell your intelligence couldn’t carry Trumps jock straps intelligence ... thumbsup


Have you heard anything the man talk? He speaks like a toddler. Honestly, if you think he is intelligent, then i don't know what else to say.

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*L* ... ya ... u don’t belong in OCD’s and Pits group .. what was i thinking ... rolleyes

I think u guys call him stupid cause you can’t believe an orange dude kicked all your collective asses ... thumbsup

O was a POS in my book ... but i would never call him stupid ... cause i ain’t stupid ... just sayin ...




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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
*L* ... ya ... u don’t belong in OCD’s and Pits group .. what was i thinking ... rolleyes

I think u guys call him stupid cause you can’t believe an orange dude kicked all your collective asses ... thumbsup

O was a POS in my book ... but i would never call him stupid ... cause i ain’t stupid ... just sayin ...


He didn't "kick my ass." Listen to Obama speak, then listen to Trump. I'd never call Obama stupid either.

Obama was a POS why exactly? Trump has done things that are 1000x more corrupt/unethical yet people think he's a saviour of sorts. The dude lies every time he speaks. It's baffling to me.

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Trump has done plenty of unethical things ... no doubt ... O is right there with him In many many areas and even tops him in some ....

Lying through his teeth about almost every single aspect of health care wasn’t unethical? ..

Lying about not knowing killary had a rogue email she was sending secured docs through wasn’t unethical? ...

Having his irs go after conservative non profits wasn’t unethical?

Sending Iran billions of cash on pallets wasn’t unethical?

Telling Putin’s aide when he thought the camera quit rolling to tell Putin no worries I’ll be able to do more things after the election was extremely ethical ...

I’m out ... u can’t have a discussion with a closed mind who refuses to look objectively at his peeps ...




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And he did whoop your butt ... its why y’all hate him so much ... thumbsup




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I hate him because he’s a low intellect clown. A grifter. A womanizing pathetic excuse for a man. A liar. I bully and buffoon. A massive massive narcissist. And these are his best qualities.


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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Trump has done plenty of unethical things ... no doubt ... O is right there with him In many many areas and even tops him in some ....

Lying through his teeth about almost every single aspect of health care wasn’t unethical? ..

Lying about not knowing killary had a rogue email she was sending secured docs through wasn’t unethical? ...

Having his irs go after conservative non profits wasn’t unethical?

Sending Iran billions of cash on pallets wasn’t unethical?

Telling Putin’s aide when he thought the camera quit rolling to tell Putin no worries I’ll be able to do more things after the election was extremely ethical ...

I’m out ... u can’t have a discussion with a closed mind who refuses to look objectively at his peeps ...


I'm closed minded, yet you love Trump when he has done the same things. I didn't love Obama, but I think he's the better of the two between him and Trump. I honestly can't think of a single thing that Trump HASN'T lied about.

The Wall
His Taxes
Saying he had plans to replace Obamacare
Using his own resorts and properties and then charging the Secret Service premium rate.
Saying he wouldn't Golf ($200 million+ says otherwise)
Hiring his whole extended family to work in roles they aren't close to suited for.
Cheating on every wife he's ever had.
The list goes on.....

I'm ashamed that as a country, THIS is the guy we thought was best suited to run the country. THIS is the best we could come up with. It's completely baffling to me. Are we really this dumb?

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Are we really this dumb?


The majority of those who voted weren't.


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I'm ashamed that as a country, THIS is the guy we thought was best suited to run the country. THIS is the best we could come up with. It's completely baffling to me. Are we really this dumb?


When your 2 major options are Hillary or Trump, you do swirl your pen around above the ballot and pick one randomly. smile


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I'm ashamed that as a country, THIS is the guy we thought was best suited to run the country. THIS is the best we could come up with. It's completely baffling to me. Are we really this dumb?


When your 2 major options are Hillary or Trump, you do swirl your pen around above the ballot and pick one randomly. smile


Right? I mean, there is no law saying there are 2 political parties in this country, we have just divided ourselves and point fingers even though the parties are just different sides of the same coin.

We could have the perfect candidate and if he/she is 3rd party, then he/she literally has zero chance.

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I'm ashamed that as a country, THIS is the guy we thought was best suited to run the country. THIS is the best we could come up with. It's completely baffling to me. Are we really this dumb?


When your 2 major options are Hillary or Trump, you do swirl your pen around above the ballot and pick one randomly. smile



Right? I mean, there is no law saying there are 2 political parties in this country, we have just divided ourselves and point fingers even though the parties are just different sides of the same coin.

We could have the perfect candidate and if he/she is 3rd party, then he/she literally has zero chance.


My honest opinion is that it doesn't matter who we elect as President right now. The real problem starts in congress, we need to force them to set term limits, and/or vote them all out.

It will always be gridlock until we get rid of the old guard . Their only desire is protecting their own interests.


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and the two parties have engineered the system to make it exceedingly difficult for a third party to come in and shake things up. After Ross Perot nearly did it way back when, the R's and D's got together and voted to bump up the percentage of the popular vote needed by a third party to get federal campaign dollars. The system is rigging itself for the system.


For the record, I too oppose mail-in voting, but I feel that extra accommodations for absentee balloting needs to be made for people of certain ages (60+, perhaps) or comorbidities. Basically, those most at risk to COVID complications should be allowed to vote by absentee ballot. Everyone else can go to the polls just as they can go to the grocery store.


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and the two parties have engineered the system to make it exceedingly difficult for a third party to come in and shake things up. After Ross Perot nearly did it way back when, the R's and D's got together and voted to bump up the percentage of the popular vote needed by a third party to get federal campaign dollars. The system is rigging itself for the system.


For the record, I too oppose mail-in voting, but I feel that extra accommodations for absentee balloting needs to be made for people of certain ages (60+, perhaps) or comorbidities. Basically, those most at risk to COVID complications should be allowed to vote by absentee ballot. Everyone else can go to the polls just as they can go to the grocery store.



100% Mail in voting is a proven system and has been working well since 1998 in Oregon without any wide spread voter fraud issues. It’s also been proven that more citizens vote in 100% mail in voting. Something that no GOPer wants. Especially trump supporters. And it’s also proven that wide spread voter fraud is a myth made up by trump and his supporters. Pfffft trump. What a pos y’all handed us.


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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
and the two parties have engineered the system to make it exceedingly difficult for a third party to come in and shake things up. After Ross Perot nearly did it way back when, the R's and D's got together and voted to bump up the percentage of the popular vote needed by a third party to get federal campaign dollars. The system is rigging itself for the system.


For the record, I too oppose mail-in voting, but I feel that extra accommodations for absentee balloting needs to be made for people of certain ages (60+, perhaps) or comorbidities. Basically, those most at risk to COVID complications should be allowed to vote by absentee ballot. Everyone else can go to the polls just as they can go to the grocery store.




Have fun standing in line. I sent my local voting ballot out in the mail this morning. I’ll vote against trump in the fall the same way.


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I don't understand the opposition to mail in voting.

Here in Florida, my mail in ballot comes to my house. It's a thicker than normal paper, has a barcode to ensure it only gets counted once, and it requires my signature in case my vote is contested as fraudulent.

This is the 21st century, it's almost bewildering that we can't just all do this from our homes on our phones/computers.


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It’s pretty simple. One side doesn’t want all U.S citizens votes to be counted.


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and the two parties have engineered the system to make it exceedingly difficult for a third party to come in and shake things up. After Ross Perot nearly did it way back when, the R's and D's got together and voted to bump up the percentage of the popular vote needed by a third party to get federal campaign dollars. The system is rigging itself for the system.


For the record, I too oppose mail-in voting, but I feel that extra accommodations for absentee balloting needs to be made for people of certain ages (60+, perhaps) or comorbidities. Basically, those most at risk to COVID complications should be allowed to vote by absentee ballot. Everyone else can go to the polls just as they can go to the grocery store.




Have fun standing in line. I sent my local voting ballot out in the mail this morning. I’ll vote against trump in the fall the same way.


I don't anticipate standing in line any more than I did the last time I went. There's no reason for my polling station to have fewer balloting areas than it normally does. Either way, I'm fine with it... it's not a big deal, and my legs work just fine. I'm not lame, nor am I lazy.. there's no reason for me to not go to a polling station. I can stand around a little.


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and the two parties have engineered the system to make it exceedingly difficult for a third party to come in and shake things up. After Ross Perot nearly did it way back when, the R's and D's got together and voted to bump up the percentage of the popular vote needed by a third party to get federal campaign dollars. The system is rigging itself for the system.


For the record, I too oppose mail-in voting, but I feel that extra accommodations for absentee balloting needs to be made for people of certain ages (60+, perhaps) or comorbidities. Basically, those most at risk to COVID complications should be allowed to vote by absentee ballot. Everyone else can go to the polls just as they can go to the grocery store.




Have fun standing in line. I sent my local voting ballot out in the mail this morning. I’ll vote against trump in the fall the same way.


I don't anticipate standing in line any more than I did the last time I went. There's no reason for my polling station to have fewer balloting areas than it normally does. Either way, I'm fine with it... it's not a big deal, and my legs work just fine. I'm not lame, nor am I lazy.. there's no reason for me to not go to a polling station. I can stand around a little.


Be respectful. Wear a mask. Enjoy.


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I don't understand the opposition to mail in voting.

Here in Florida, my mail in ballot comes to my house. It's a thicker than normal paper, has a barcode to ensure it only gets counted once, and it requires my signature in case my vote is contested as fraudulent.

This is the 21st century, it's almost bewildering that we can't just all do this from our homes on our phones/computers.



At this point we should be able to vote online. We all have SS numbers. Sign in. Vote. I don’t get why we’re even dealing with the mail at this point.

Purp... I do believe there are polling stations here in Oregon. You COULD stand in a line if that made you feel more patriotic.


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I don't understand the opposition to mail in voting.

Here in Florida, my mail in ballot comes to my house. It's a thicker than normal paper, has a barcode to ensure it only gets counted once, and it requires my signature in case my vote is contested as fraudulent.

This is the 21st century, it's almost bewildering that we can't just all do this from our homes on our phones/computers.



At this point we should be able to vote online. We all have SS numbers. Sign in. Vote. I don’t get why we’re even dealing with the mail at this point.

Purp... I do believe there are polling stations here in Oregon. You COULD stand in a line if that made you feel more patriotic.


Pen and paper can’t be hacked. I’d never trust the internet for voting. Never.


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I would love to have the mail in option, but I can use early voting almost as safely. BUT even if I have to chisel it in stone while standing naked a crowd of covid positive coughers, I'm going to cast that vote against Trump come hell or high water.

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They are working their way to November by getting their followers to feel safe again against all scientific data. It's just a political tactic to get their voters to turn out even if it kills them.


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I don't understand the opposition to mail in voting.

Here in Florida, my mail in ballot comes to my house. It's a thicker than normal paper, has a barcode to ensure it only gets counted once, and it requires my signature in case my vote is contested as fraudulent.

This is the 21st century, it's almost bewildering that we can't just all do this from our homes on our phones/computers.



At this point we should be able to vote online. We all have SS numbers. Sign in. Vote. I don’t get why we’re even dealing with the mail at this point.

Purp... I do believe there are polling stations here in Oregon. You COULD stand in a line if that made you feel more patriotic.


Pen and paper can’t be hacked. I’d never trust the internet for voting. Never.


I understand that, but in the end, they take your ballot, run it through a scanner and it goes via internet to the state office.

In a direct vote method, at least when you log in, you would be notified if your vote had already been placed, which you could contest immediately, or you place your vote, and any hacking happens after, which is not different than when you did it by paper.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
They are working their way to November by getting their followers to feel safe again against all scientific data. It's just a political tactic to get their voters to turn out even if it kills them.


So that is why you have been so adamant about mail in elections and people returning to work.
The truth finally comes out.

It isn't about lives with you, its about tactics.

Shame!

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I don't understand the opposition to mail in voting.

Here in Florida, my mail in ballot comes to my house. It's a thicker than normal paper, has a barcode to ensure it only gets counted once, and it requires my signature in case my vote is contested as fraudulent.

This is the 21st century, it's almost bewildering that we can't just all do this from our homes on our phones/computers.



At this point we should be able to vote online. We all have SS numbers. Sign in. Vote. I don’t get why we’re even dealing with the mail at this point.

Purp... I do believe there are polling stations here in Oregon. You COULD stand in a line if that made you feel more patriotic.


Pen and paper can’t be hacked. I’d never trust the internet for voting. Never.


They most certainly can... and have. There's uncertainty over the extent, which is an annual debate on here and elsewhere.


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