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It'll be interesting to see if this woman gets the play and support that the Kavanaugh accuser got. It appears to have about the same validity.

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A woman has filed a police report claiming that presidential candidate Joe Biden sexually assaulted her in 1993, according to reports.

Tara Reade filed a criminal complaint with the Washington Metropolitan Police Department of accusing the 2020 Democratic nomination of pushing her against the wall in a Senate corridor and penetrating her with his fingers, according to Business Insider.

The alleged incident occurred while Reade was working as a Senate staffer for Biden nearly 30 years ago.

Reade first made the claims against Biden last month. In a tweet, Reade thanked those who helped her come forward with the allegations, as well as "luminaries" who have supported her such as Susan Sarandon, John Cusack, and Rose McGowan.

Reade also confirmed that the statute of limitations around the claims against Biden have passed.

"I filed a police report for safety reasons only. All crim [sic] stats beyond limitations. Gratitude for all who have stood by me," Reade tweeted.

Reade also referenced scrutiny she received after it emerged she wrote a blog post in 2018 praising Russian President Vladimir Putin as a "compassionate, caring, visionary leader." The blog post has since been deleted and she has distanced herself from the remarks.

"I have been smeared and called vile names by Biden supporters. I was also accused of being called a Russian agent. I am not," Reade tweeted. "I will continue to speak out."


Speaking to Newsweek, Reade said she decided to come forward with the claims against Biden to ensure that "powerful men" are held accountable for their actions.

"I was trying to have a deeper conversation about sexual harassment in the workplace and powerful men," Reade said. "I'm not going to get traditional justice, like with [Harvey] Weinstein's case. I'm looking for something more existential-to not have to keep a secret because it's somebody powerful."

In a statement at the time, Biden's team denied the accusations against him.

"Women have a right to tell their story, and reporters have an obligation to rigorously vet those claims," said Deputy Campaign Manager and Communications Director Kate Bedingfield. "We encourage them to do so, because these accusations are false."

"In all my years working for Senator Biden, I never once witnessed, or heard of, or received, any reports of inappropriate conduct, period-not from Ms Reade, not from anyone," she told Newsweek.

"These clearly false allegations are in complete contradiction to both the inner workings of our Senate office and to the man I know and worked so closely with for almost two decades."

Biden's office and the Washington Metropolitan Police Department have been contacted for comment.


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Man is Pit going to FLAME you lol...

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This will either be ignored or there going to flame her ... says a lot about how the press is just a wing of the dnc ...




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Maybe she'll get as little attention as Trump's 19 accusers got from you guys. Nah, hypocrisy will be the rules of the day on this one.


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Hypocrisy will be the rules of the day on this one.


thumbsup You got that right. Let's see if she gets the same media play and support from the special interest groups.


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Oh she will. Only this time those with the special interests will be reversed.


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Sleepy Joe has a history of being touchy feely. That is pretty well established.

He vows a female VP candidate for more than political points.

Just saying.


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Yet you really didn't say anything. wink


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Does she have a dress with stains on it? Video? Audio? witness? No, then shouldn't we find out who is paying her to smudge up Biden?d

Next, are we gonna hear about Biden and the Ukraine,,, Or how about is biden gonna be involved with a Pizzagate type issue?

Anyway, there is something like 19 or so allegations against Trump and they find one about Biden..... I'm not worried about it.

How many alligation of fraud are flying around about Trump? How many times has Trump had to pay out because he's a fraudster?

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Trump Charities (may be the wrong name)

Those are Crimes and basically, his voters ignored them?


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Well when you wish to dismiss that one person has 19 times as many accusers, maybe it's more a matter of refusing to recognize a point that someone missing the point. wink


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Well when you wish to dismiss that one person has 19 times as many accusers, maybe it's more a matter of refusing to recognize a point that someone missing the point. wink


My reply do Daman applies to you as well. I wrote a post wondering if the woman accusing Biden will get the support and press coverage that the woman accusing Kavanaugh got, and all I hear is ......but Trump....but Trump, and damansnot flying into a rage.

Just what am I dismissing? I agree that Trump is a sexist, womanizing ahole, and I believe I've said so in this forum.



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My monies on the DNC and the Luv Gov's team being behind this Biden smear. Biden is creepy weird with his touchy-feely tendencies, but I don't believe for a minute he'd force himself on someone like that story reported. He's too beta for that. Just ask Corn Pop.


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Both major candidates of this election are alleged rapists.

What a crappy reality this is.

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She most certainly will receive the same attention only from different news sources. Only you see, Kavanaugh was not running for the office of president. He wasn't going through the election process at all. There are guidelines and hearings already in place for such an appointment. Both Trump and Biden fall into that category of someone running for office with no such hearings in place. That is pretty much apples and oranges.

So when your pretense is based on what I consider a false narrative, I think one can expect people to point out an actual comparison.

As for myself, I didn't think anything was proven one way or the other during the Kavenagh hearings. Which in our society is considered to be innocent.

What I did find most disturbing was the way he conducted himself during the hearings. I found his nasty disposition quite unsettling for anyone being appointed to the highest court in the land.


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Not only that, but Joe doesn't remember anything he did 30 days ago, let alone 30 years ago...

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What false narrative? You're basically saying I can't compare Biden's accuser to anyone but Trump's accusers. That's absolutely ridiculous. I've already conceded what Trump is. Sometimes you'll say anything to try and make yourself right.


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As for myself, I didn't think anything was proven one way or the other during the Kavenagh hearings. Which in our society is considered to be not guilty.


We have this grammatical and legal distinction for more than one good reason.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Maybe she'll get as little attention as Trump's 19 accusers got from you guys. Nah, hypocrisy will be the rules of the day on this one.


Trump is a scumbag, he bangs porn stars and claims to be christian and paying daily. The difference is that Trump never even attempted to hold moral high ground. The Democratic party has been absolutely BANGING that moral high ground drum for 4 years. Those roosters are now home to roost.


Similarly to the Trump AND Kavanaugh situations. I'll wait to hear what evidence comes to light.

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Here's a little something to chew on: Trump used to claim to be a democrat.

Had he run for president as a democrat, and won, I can list about 8 people on here that wouldn't have an issue with him, at all. Pure fact, despite anything those people may claim.

And, the circle continues..........side politics. I'd love to see Biden get the same scrutiny that trump and kavanough got. But, he's a dem. And the msm loves them a d. OCD is the only one seeing this at this point.

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I hate to post in this forum, but I saw this headline, and read the thread, and had to make one point.

The police were saying, repeatedly, that the accuser in the Kavanaugh mess should file criminal charges and they would investigate.

She refused to do so.

This woman actually did file criminal charges.


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Had he run for president as a democrat, and won, I can list about 8 people on here that wouldn't have an issue with him, at all.


I can't think of a single person who fit that description. I think / hope anyone would see Trump for being the douche he is no matter what party he ran for, what judges he appointed.


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Wow. There are almost as many rapists in politics as there are child molesters in chruch.

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I hate to post in this forum, but I saw this headline, and read the thread, and had to make one point.

The police were saying, repeatedly, that the accuser in the Kavanaugh mess should file criminal charges and they would investigate.

She refused to do so.

This woman actually did file criminal charges.


If memory serves me, when the women in any of these cases file criminal charges, police must investigate.
If she is found to be making it up or playing politics, she risks being arrested and charged for multiple crimes.
This woman apparently isn't playing.

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It's 30 year s ago? Isn't it past the statue of limitations? Why would they investigate if they ant charge anyone with anything...

I understand it must be incredibly hard to come forward when sexually assaulted,,, but accusations to a high profile individual 30 years after the 'assault' feels fishy... in all cases...

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Pretty sure the statute of limitations is not considered when a criminal charge is filed, that is for the Courts to determine.

Police still investigate and criminal charges can still be filed.

Keep in mind that in many instances, when the statute begins to run, when it ends, and whether it should be considered suspended will not be addressed in the statutes—these are issues that lawyers raise and judges decide on a case-by-case basis.

Let me add, this woman could also be charged if the investigation shows she is lying.

Apparently she is serious and willing to risk it.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Pretty sure the statute of limitations is not considered when a criminal charge is filed, that is for the Courts to determine.

Police still investigate and criminal charges can still be filed.

Keep in mind that in many instances, when the statute begins to run, when it ends, and whether it should be considered suspended will not be addressed in the statutes—these are issues that lawyers raise and judges decide on a case-by-case basis.

Let me add, this woman could also be charged if the investigation shows she is lying.

Apparently she is serious and willing to risk it.



There isn't likely to be any actual investigation. If she recognizes the statute of limitations is up, any investigating agency is going to consult with the DA as to how far they can or want to run with it. If it's not prosecutable its not worth the time and effort in a practical sense. Plus, getting things like search warrants and subpoenas approved for a criminal investigation in which you already know you can't make a charge may prove difficult.

Here's the thing: by her filing a policed report it on its face would lend credibility to her claims for the reasons you mention. HOWEVER.. if there's no investigation, she isn't likely to be found out if she is lying. Even if she is lying she has little to fear. DA's don't like to charge women who make fake rape allegations for fear that it will dissuade actual victims from coming forward.

Joe is handsy but I feel like he's the type to force himself on the kiddies if anybody.

Its a shame (not really) the Dems were stupid enough to block out Tulsi. Maybe we'll see her and Nikki Haley go womano e womano in 2024!


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Gawd the hypocrisy of these GOPers are astounding not to mention how trump has 10’s of thousands of dead in the USA and 20 sexual assault accusers on his hands, and you guys torch Biden Lol Whatever go for it.


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So your admitting that there is no evidence, no dress, no witnesses and no audio or video....


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So you admit that there is no evidence... Thanks

I always know when a Trump Humper has no answer.. They just try to distract by calling people names or making dumb references like this one


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So your admitting that there is no evidence, no dress, no witnesses and no audio or video....





...about the same evidence that Blasey Ford had. crazy


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I’m not sure why the dc police said they’d investigate if Kav’s accuser pressed charges but they can’t investigate this one ...

Not playing politics here although it appears they are ... i don’t understand ... maybe Kav’s wasn’t as long ago? ...

Very curious ...




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So your admitting that there is no evidence, no dress, no witnesses and no audio or video....





...about the same evidence that Blasey Ford had. crazy


Except Ford didn’t know the date, the people she said were there including her good friend deny being there ...

Ford had more holes in her story than an OCD post ...




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Blausey claimed the incident with Kavanaugh happened in the 80's....over 30yrs ago also. That's part of the reason I started this thread.


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To bad the last Pres. didnt get the scrutiny that that TRUMP and Kavanough got the world would be a better place...IMHO

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The Democratic party has been absolutely BANGING that moral high ground drum for 4 years. Those roosters are now home to roost.


How quickly you've forgotten.

The moral majority.

The party of family values.

The Christian right.

Those aren't terms the democrats adopted and claimed to stand for.


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What false narrative? You're basically saying I can't compare Biden's accuser to anyone but Trump's accusers. That's absolutely ridiculous. I've already conceded what Trump is.


No you can compare anything you like. But it is completely different.

You see, a SCOTUS appointee has to go through hearings. Public hearings where the opposing party can call witnesses and question him under oath. The stage is set at a time and place for direct questions and drama.

It's like a made for TV movie. So it most certainly gets played up for certain point in time.

That's not the case with someone accusing a presidential candidate. He won't have to testify under oath about it. So he can lie, deflect and skirt the issue. He can't actually be cornered in the same way.

So the build up in drama by the media isn't the same. We saw this while Bill Clinton was running for president. We saw it while Trump was running for resident.

It's not about whether any of these people are or aren't scum bags. It's about the difference in media coverage based on the circumstances of each position. When you have e scheduled hearing under oath on a certain date and time, it will be played up.

An example? Clarence Thomas.

If you can't see the difference in the two situations that's not my fault. But the history here is clear.


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Here's a little something to chew on: Trump used to claim to be a democrat.

Had he run for president as a democrat, and won, I can list about 8 people on here that wouldn't have an issue with him, at all. Pure fact, despite anything those people may claim.

And, the circle continues..........side politics. I'd love to see Biden get the same scrutiny that trump and kavanough got. But, he's a dem. And the msm loves them a d. OCD is the only one seeing this at this point.


yet many of us have no problem admitting Bill Clinton was and is a scum bag. Sometimes people only hear what they want to hear.


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