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Do we gotta get this guy? Not sure it is a huge need. Can he be utility help in more than one spot?

Seems mobility is also a concern with this offense. I don't know his game.

Someone check on steve0255.

Hey, I'm here and I do have a thought on the Browns pick.

It would appear odd that all the tackles except for the best LT prospect in Thomas fell to the Browns for their choice. That might have been a sign of the quality of the players. Picking Wells out of the bunch on the surface appears to be a real head scratcher. Really, 3 out of the 4 drop to the Browns and they select the one OT that hasn't played a single game at LT in high school or college.

Now I know that the idea being thrown around is that Wells can be switched to LT. I'm not so sure. If LT was so easily interchangeable, the position wouldn't be so highly valued. If this is the Browns plan then expect the TE to be lined up on his side every play. LT is a high skill set that makes the position highly valued. Putting a young man into that spot that has never taken a game snap at the position seems very suspect. I'm sure that there are some people on this board that played interior line in college. Maybe they can talk to this but I'm sure they would agree that LT isn't an interchangeable position overwise you wouldn't see them so highly sought after.

Now most of the analysis I have read on Wells is that he was a great RT in college but has the body and movement capability of a guard at the next level. Staying on the right side and moving inside to RG next to Conklin would be an easier move. It would also fix an area of need. However, you might question the thought process of drafting a potential RG at #10 in the NFL draft.

In summary, I don't think you draft a project player at #10 in the NFL draft unless he's a QB. A top 10 pick has to be a plug and play player and if Wells is not that player than the pick was a waste in my opinion. The learning curve is going to be greater than it would be for a normal rookie LT because Wells has never played the position. Those are just the facts.

Now maybe the Browns are still in the market for a LT and Wells is planned to be the new RG. I just question using the pick on a RG with so many other holes to fill. If Wells is inked in as the new LT then they failed their franchise QB by not getting the most valued player to plug and play at the #3 valued position on the team. So the question I have for the board and the Browns FO, can you say right now that without a doubt you have upgraded the position of LT with the drafting of Wells over what you had at the position with Hubbard last year? Right now, if you're truthful, the answer to that question is "I don't know!" If that's true then you would have to question using the #10 pick overall on a player that is an "I don't know player" that has never played the position in HS or college after you just spent the last 2-years building a power offense that's missing one critical part - LT!

Wills played RT for a leftie, so he protected the blindside. Sure, there are differences but from the bits Ive read, this kid is the best plug and play prospect, excels in run and pass pro, has great feet and has a mean streak. Callahan and Joe T will polish the edges off. I think it was as good as pick as we could have made.

Wills.

Not that it's all that relevant at this juncture, but I'm perhaps a little more curious now about the talks for Trent Williams. If nothing else but to shed some light on thought processes of our FO operations.

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This seems like the logical thread for those conference calls .... *L* ,,,

Its a joke feel free to unclench for a second and *L* ... or be your anal self and don’t ... your option ... *L* ...

Yes, I am aware.

It has been moved.

I c u chose option 2 ... *L* ...

I c u and I have varying definitions of that term.

Getting this in the bag may help with a more reasonable pricing of TW if talks continue. A Williams/Conklin duo is solid. And look at what the rook gets potentially for help.

I am not a "TW regardless of price" guy, dawgs. Not many in the NFL complain about their OT play being excessively good, more than needed, or that the QB is horrifically clean all season. <G>. A three-tackle set with our backs could be a hard option to handle.

Welcome aboard, big man. Win.

I think that Wills will play LT and the Williams thing is probably dead. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

J/c

I think Berry’s comments about wanting youth on the OL kind of ends the Williams speculation .. he said last night they felt it was important to find the right young guy

I believe you are right and I'll add that we may not be done with a further addition to the Oline, possibly an OG or OC...

Small sample size, but the majority of the plays of Wills shown on some critique videos I watched showed him not getting much help (TE was on the other side). Could've been a product of the play selection that went into making the video... but one of the questions that came out of the conversation over Wills and RT vs LT conversation was the idea of 'playing on an island'. Looks like he might've been doing that, just on the opposite side w/ a leftie QB.

Obviously, I'm not Berry so I can't say anything absolutely definitive, but I'll state as definitively as any outsider can: a trade for Williams is dead. I'd lay money that he was a contingency plan in case we couldn't get someone we targeted in the Draft.

We got our LT; this offense has no holes at all. None.
This is just about as complete and stacked as an offense gets.

It just needs to stay healthy now.

Why is he commenting on anything related to personnel?

Because he owns the team?

I guess I'll ask again, why is the son in law of the owners who's job is not personnel making any comment whatsoever on personnel?

The Haslams are simply the worst.

When you are the owner you can do whatever you want.

The Haslams are definitely the worst.

because he was giving a non-answer when asked a question.

J/C

Ive said numerous times that JW seems like such a tool. He has no form of qualification for football personnel ... but we’re going to be forced to deal with him for a long time IMO

That's what I thought too. Reading it, I wonder why anyone would be upset by that answer.

Yup. He made noises that formed words, but he didn't say anything.

Haha perfect

I simply don't think it is particularly wise to quantify how many guys you are interested in with your pick before you consider doing something else. It seems to me that was their direct strategy, and I don't know why you would say anything close to that. A 'couple' could have meant 2 or 3, and considering all teams knew that the Browns were in need of a LT, that could have encouraged teams to trade up and leap frog the Browns for the same guys they too also might have liked. Luckily, it didn't happen (either by teams not pursuing it or not being able to agree to terms on a trade) and the Browns seemingly got their guy, but I think he could have been more guarded than that.

I believe it call comes from my own mindset that I think the JW, although not knowing him, comes across as rather stupid.

I think you're maybe reading WAY too much into what was said.
It was literally a "nothing", a non-event.

I never do that.

So this time is an exception?

Read what he said.

"I think we're going to just see how the board falls. We've got our eyes on a couple people who we really like ... We'll just see how things shake out"

That's a Bill Belichick type non-answer. You guys are going nuts over him saying, literally, nothing. What key information did you get out of that non-answer?

WHAM ....

The molehill is now Mt Everest ,,,,

Given my opinion of JW, his answer was far better than what I would've expected.

Everyone agrees the Haslams are the worst and that they've created one of the most dysfunctional organizations in all of sports.

Yet we can't agreement that JW should probably just be quiet.

The Haslams being the worst and their son-in-law speaking on personnel matters are not mutually exclusive events.

No one is upset. Just an observation.

I imagine the response of personnel people thru out the league would have been very minimal and not seen as an aha moment.
Those that have met him already consider him to be a tool and not a great source of info.

If someone does something wrong, you call them out.

If someone does nothing wrong, why still call them out - just because you don't like them? There's no honesty in that.

FWIW now ... bird cage liner maybe .. *L* ..

TRENT WILLIAMS
T, WASHINGTON REDSKINS

ESPN's Courtney Cronin reports the Vikings remain in pursuit of Redskins LT Trent Williams.

Minnesota had previously offered a Day 3 pick to the Redskins last week, but Washington apparently wants a little bit more. The Vikings can make it happen with 12 picks across the next two days, but the Redskins are running out of suitors after the Browns and Bucs both drafted tackles in the first round Thursday night to pretty much eliminate themselves from the Williams sweepstakes. The Vikings don't have much cap space to work with, so Cronin suggests Minnesota could send a pick and incumbent LT Riley Reiff to D.C. for Williams.

RELATED: Riley Reiff, Minnesota Vikings
SOURCE: Courtney Cronin on Twitter
Apr 24, 2020, 11:43 AM E

That is actually the best, most sensible deal, yet.

That also buys the Vikes the cap space they need. It's nearly a wash, actually - until they have to give him a new contract, anyway.

Washington gets a decent OT and potentially saves $2 million, I think.

I'm betting they get him for a 4th or 5th and Reiff.