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Here we go again.
I liked taking the T 1st and I think I liked the Delpit pick. But after that we went back to out thinking ourselves.
We traded down and missed out on a very good LB ( Brun ). Stupid analytic move. I can't even think on all the good players we passed on to play analytics. We passed on the Ohio State LB (taken by Balt ) to draft some slow footed sec bum.
Now the 3rd day and we can fill out our roster with Special teamers and guys that can't play. I hope you trade down guys learn your lesson but I know you won't.
Thanks Jimmy Haslam for scrwing up again.
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That's as extreme as the guys who automatically say "great pick" after each choice.
I can see liking or disliking picks, but extreme thinking is odd. Too early to make any substantial evaluations.
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Move on bro ... Not a fan of what they did but lets give them a chance and see how it pans out ... They have a tough job as the thief has been the worst owner in the history of sports so far ... these guys will get 4 or 5 years so we will get to watch there plan play out ... lets see how it turns out and not fry them 2 minutes into the 1st quarter of there plan ... LETS GOOOOOOOoooooooo 
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I really like the 1st 2 picks ...... I like the 3rd pick ...... and don't like the 2nd 3rd round pick.
However, I am rooting for every one to be a great pro.
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That's as extreme as the guys who automatically say "great pick" after each choice.
I can see liking or disliking picks, but extreme thinking is odd. Too early to make any substantial evaluations. I disagree, it is the pick of the player that is being graded.
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I don't understand what you are disagreeing with. Can you please clarify?
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They still need a WR cause after JL and OBJ
the cupboard is really bare
Still didn't address a running parter
To go with Garrett.
I'm surprised the homers arent telling
The world how smart and awesome Andrew Berry
Is after day 2 of the draft .
In the past past GMs like Sashi and Farmet
Were worshipped and applauded on Draft Weekend
Time will tell with Berry.
Let's just hope he doesnt let his Ivy League
Education let him get arrogant in building
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I don't understand what you are disagreeing with. Can you please clarify? It's more than just the player, but also the value of said player where he is drafted. So, there is a difference in strictly grading the player and grading the players value where he is selected.
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Is that some sort of poetry or song lyrics? LOL........just messing w/you.
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I thought that was understood. My bad.
Best to just stick with "Great pick" or "I really like this pick" around here. LOL
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Is that some sort of poetry or song lyrics? LOL........just messing w/you. For instance. Taking a prospect like Elliott with the 88th selection, who was projected as a second round talent. That's a 'great' value and therefore a 'great' pick, even though he might not be called a 'great' (but good) DT prospect.
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I don’t watch college football and sure as hell cant evaluate the players we selected versus the guys we didn’t, but I like how we went after defensive players after getting an LT in round 1.
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I think we have done a pretty good job addressing needs of the team so far.
There are still some decent receivers, and O linemen still in play.
Seems your upset about acquiring the top tackler in the SEC.
I too liked Harrison and Z Baun but they did not, maybe they know something we don't!
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Is that some sort of poetry or song lyrics? LOL........just messing w/you. For instance. Taking a prospect like Elliott with the 88th selection, who was projected as a second round talent. That's a 'great' value and therefore a 'great' pick, even though he might not be called a 'great' (but good) DT prospect. Elliot ranked 19th bst DT. Diffidently HOF.
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Well, in regard to Malik Harrison, in fact any player who drops in the draft to a later round, there’s 31 other teams that didn’t pick him as well. Why? Eh, I certainly don’t know, I’m just a dude in an Internet forum.
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Is that some sort of poetry or song lyrics? LOL........just messing w/you. For instance. Taking a prospect like Elliott with the 88th selection, who was projected as a second round talent. That's a 'great' value and therefore a 'great' pick, even though he might not be called a 'great' (but good) DT prospect. Elliot ranked 19th bst DT. Diffidently HOF. By whom?
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Well, in regard to Malik Harrison, in fact any player who drops in the draft to a later round, there’s 31 other teams that didn’t pick him as well. Why? Eh, I certainly don’t know, I’m just a dude in an Internet forum. We all saw Harrison play and we all saw Phillips play. Jumping Jimmy really screwed up bring in Berry and Depo. I wonder if Stefanski was in on this crap?
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Is that some sort of poetry or song lyrics? LOL........just messing w/you. For instance. Taking a prospect like Elliott with the 88th selection, who was projected as a second round talent. That's a 'great' value and therefore a 'great' pick, even though he might not be called a 'great' (but good) DT prospect. Elliot ranked 19th bst DT. Diffidently HOF. By whom? Lindy Sports
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Is that some sort of poetry or song lyrics? LOL........just messing w/you. For instance. Taking a prospect like Elliott with the 88th selection, who was projected as a second round talent. That's a 'great' value and therefore a 'great' pick, even though he might not be called a 'great' (but good) DT prospect. Elliot ranked 19th bst DT. Diffidently HOF. By whom? Lindy Sports 
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Is that some sort of poetry or song lyrics? LOL........just messing w/you. For instance. Taking a prospect like Elliott with the 88th selection, who was projected as a second round talent. That's a 'great' value and therefore a 'great' pick, even though he might not be called a 'great' (but good) DT prospect. Elliot ranked 19th bst DT. Diffidently HOF. By whom? Lindy Sports What do they know compared tp Fl Dawg
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Well, in regard to Malik Harrison, in fact any player who drops in the draft to a later round, there’s 31 other teams that didn’t pick him as well. Why? Eh, I certainly don’t know, I’m just a dude in an Internet forum. We all saw Harrison play and we all saw Phillips play. Jumping Jimmy really screwed up bring in Berry and Depo. I wonder if Stefanski was in on this crap? Yeah, I’m thinking you might be missing the mark on this. Berry and DePodesta just had a nice draft and free agency period.
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Is that some sort of poetry or song lyrics? LOL........just messing w/you. For instance. Taking a prospect like Elliott with the 88th selection, who was projected as a second round talent. That's a 'great' value and therefore a 'great' pick, even though he might not be called a 'great' (but good) DT prospect. Elliot ranked 19th bst DT. Diffidently HOF. According to who? I've not seen anyone rank him that low. PFF had him at 23rd overall. I know that's not guarantee, but I've also not seen him as the 19th best DT. Who were the 18 ahead of him?
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Is that some sort of poetry or song lyrics? LOL........just messing w/you. For instance. Taking a prospect like Elliott with the 88th selection, who was projected as a second round talent. That's a 'great' value and therefore a 'great' pick, even though he might not be called a 'great' (but good) DT prospect. Elliot ranked 19th bst DT. Diffidently HOF. According to who? I've not seen anyone rank him that low. PFF had him at 23rd overall. I know that's not guarantee, but I've also not seen him as the 19th best DT. Who were the 18 ahead of him? Good question
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PFF had him as their 3rd ranked DT in the class. Only the Auburn and South Carolina dudes were ahead of him. Lindy might be off
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Ah grading the draft.
All good everybody gets to play GM.
Nobody has played a down in the NFL. Repeat in the NFL.
Since forever I have heard "I can't believe we got this guy in this round". We got an "A" from Mr. X. "What a horrible pick". "Unreal we got this guy best player on the Board."
Part of the fun grading the draft.
However, when they play games all that disappears like pre-season scores.
Outside of the first round most people who don't get paid by a NFL team don't know crap about these players.
So everybody now is an expert. I am not.
I need to see them play in real NFL games for at least a couple years.
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PFF had him as their 3rd ranked DT in the class. Only the Auburn and South Carolina dudes were ahead of him. Lindy might be off Change thread title to "Lindy is smarter than everyone else" 
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I don't remember his name ( elliott ) being mentioned on the board pre draft ?
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Our draft feedback are usually from guys who do a good job trying to analyze over 300 players and team needs. But honestly these guys don't have a job in the NFL...there are a few working for NFL Network and ESPN who make decent money...probably more than a scout in the NFL???
But these are the guys feeding us information so when we see Elliot and Phillips Not in the top 75 of most "EXPERT'S" Boards we think we blew it...The grass is always greener on the other side.
Personally I had Delpit as the highest ranked Safety and the overall #28 ranked player in the draft. But many on this board are looking at what was shown to us by the so called experts.
Elliot and Phillips we were targeting along with 5 other players so we felt safe that one of the 7 or so guys on OUR BOARD would be there. So we didn't waste any time taking the 2 prospects late 3rd round.
as Berry explained we took guys who would have to take advantage of the opportunity given them and they MUST MAKE themselves into possible starters. These are guys especially Elliot who will get some reps as we want to keep the DL fresh
Phillips we liked his game speed and long arms to develop into a possible starter at LB...remember in most cases we will be going to 2 LBs.
I have no clue on these two guys and most likely any of the guys we will take today rounds 4-7. When I say no clue I'm talking POSITIVE as well as NEGATIVE. I just listen to Berry (Haven't listened to Ski yet) and try to understand his thought process.
I think what I gather so far is our picks are some of the best "BALLERS" available not stat driven like all assume is how the Analytics go. DePodesta has made a unique and detailed algarythm to utilize as well as the scouts and coaches input from film and interviews. But the prospects must check off certain criteriors to become a Brown.
One has to just look at the Patriots As they took Kyle Dugger probably the biggest reach in the draft at an early 2nd round pick. They have no clue where Mel Kiper has this kid ranked all they know is they had him at the top of their board when they took him. Once you get past the 35 ranked players in the draft it goes all over the place. So who is smarter Mel Kiper or the collective minds of Berry, DePo and our coaching staff.
and btw out of the multitude of 3rd round picks since 1999 how many become starters and Pro Bowlers???
Hey usually after the first two rounds then its a tough road for these guys to become starters. They must work hard both in the Gym and mentally and we will see where they end up.
And I think almost as important as talent is the ENVIRONMENT we develop and offer these young prospects to grow in. We are in year one of that process. We will see how that evolves.
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I know other teams I've spoken with so far have been very impressed with #Jets and #Browns selections and value (in terms of where the players were selected).
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What do they know compared tp Fl Dawg He doesn't have a say ... but the Browns do and they do not agree either.
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I don't remember his name ( elliott ) being mentioned on the board pre draft ? Go look in the mock draft thread.
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Jumping Jimmy really screwed up bring in Berry and Depo. I wonder if Stefanski was in on this crap?
Hmmmm. I liked picks 1 and 2. Didn't know enough about about picks 3-4-5 to know one way or the other. There were players I thought were good picks (the Ravens took one of those right after us) ..... but until they play, passing judgement on any of it, even the "good" Wills and Delpit picks, is flat wrong and premature. Saying we screwed up and using a single source of player grading is pretty pointless.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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I don't remember his name ( elliott ) being mentioned on the board pre draft ? I think most of us were a little focused in on LT, FS, and LB.
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It’ll be interesting to see how it pans out ... it’s crazy that the team drafting after us basically took the SAME position ... so it’ll be fairly easy to see if we should havre drafted Wirfs, Winfield, or Harrison
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Was he mentioned there a bunch ? I honestly don't pay much attention to that thread.
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I cannot really disagree with any of the selections so far.
The selection are not mind blowing stupid like John Hughes or Brandon Weeden, Johnny Manziel.
There will be no playoffs. Can’t play with who we have out there and compounding it with garbage playcalling and worse execution. We don’t have good skill players on offense period. Browns 20 - Bears 17.
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The analysts on ESPN liked our picks. They did speak about strengths and weaknesses but predominately, they thought our draft has been good.
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Exactly. Andrew Berry made a good case for all our picks. I think he and whomever else has input have done a good job thus far.
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I don't remember his name ( elliott ) being mentioned on the board pre draft ? I think most of us were a little focused in on LT, FS, and LB. I went back and looked. A few posters had him in the 3rd/4th range.
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Finding the right players for the scheme / system. Most of the weaknesses people talk about can be coached up. People see players in different ways. Can only wait to see how they produce on the field.
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