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Not a big fan of him as a KR ... but he’s an adequate 3rd RB.

I think he’s in for some competition to make the final roster, but we’ll see

He is serviceable.

We signed 2 udfa, Brian Herrien and Benny LeMay. One of those guys could possibly take his spot.

J/C I am a little suprised by this as I really did not think he did much at all. Maybe with the new scheme he will show a little more, but overall not impressed with his play.

I hope he doesn’t make the team ... he was not good last year ... he showed me nothing ...

I liked D'Ernest Johnson better than Hilliard. Is he still w/the Browns?

Why? Is this camp bait?

Welcome aboard. Usually pulling for all contract signings. But this guy? Why? Not worth much based on last year. Depth perhaps.

He didn't show alot of burst last year
Or reading the hole. With the way RBs
Come and go on teams his spot is far from secure

He sets the low bar for the UDFAs.
Chubb and Hunt set the high bar.

JAG

same here actually; I forgot all about Johnson

According to the internet, which has never let me down, he is still w the Browns.

I will say, I loved when we put him in during garbage time against the Ravens in the first game last year. He still was able to score a TD. That’s exactly the type of back breaker you like to see when you play teams like that.

Zero downside.

I agree. I won't mind if the staff deems someone better to keep, but Hilliard is a decent 3rd back.

Due to the nature of the position you need to keep 3-4 backs.

No doubt if Chubb goes down Hilliard isn't going to replace that production. Hunt could, but to me he is a co-starter. He isn't the typical back-up.

We can't expect Hilliard to gain to gain 1600 yards if given the reps, but he could log 800 if given the carries.

That isn't bad from the 3rd guy.

Thanks I thought so

I think he is most valuable in situations like this.

He also is quick enough to be a real threat in the screen game. He has 4.42 speed.

Of course nobody liked that Hunt was susp. last year.

I don't think Hilliard scared any of the Browns' opponents last year, and he got way too many touches in the first 8 games, for the other options on the team.

Like in the movie My Cousin Vinny,

Where the non Ralph Macchio kid says about hiring the wrong attorney, it's not just not asking the right question, what if he asks a bunch of questions and the witness has all the answers, he ends up proving the prosecutions case.

So no downside, except for the no upside.

He'd better be able to return punts or kickoffs at a high level or it's just a waste on the roster.

With the expanded rosters this year, maybe not. There could be room for him and some rook.

yeah it will be interesting to see what positions benefit from the extra spots ... especially since WR is not a high priority for Stefanski and our FO

We really don't know if WR is a priority or not. The Minni situation was more complicated than what are assuming.

Hilliards 2019 season. Enjoy.

I wouldn't say wr isn't a priority, but TE is, we will probably keep 4 on the roster. I bunch receivers and tight ends together and just call all of them receivers. So those numbers cancel each other so we still have the 2 extra slots to fill.

I don't get the impression linebackers are key in our D, so we probably keep one extra safety.

The last slot? The best of the rest I suppose.

Kindly note that we do not assume...it's called 'educated guesswork'.

Good news!

I am a big fan of this. He is an excellent receiver out of the backfield and runs with good vision between the tackles.

He also had some nice KR called back due to stupid penalties.

He will be more appreciated by the fans when Hunt is gone

I'm not sure how long Hilliard was trying to play through an injury. He definitely looked less good the longer the season went on, and he did end up on IR. We've had worse guys on the team in the past, and if healthy, he could be a pleasant surprise. He plays special teams.

We have the best short yardage RB in the League in Nick Chubb.

If we're hitching our wagon to Chubb for the long haul (sounds good to me), then getting someone that can take those short-yardage carries off his plate is smart for his longevity.

They Vikings used Jerrick Mckinnon in a variety of ways before he left for San Fran. I can absolutely see him being used like that.

good point

First and goal might not agree with you.

I was just thinking about this the other day .. how bad were we in goal-to-go situations?

I can think of numerous examples of us failing to punch it in ... just horrible playcalling and execution

what about the other ten players?

You think that they have any control over the success of a play?

What about the predictable play calling?

And how about the runs Chubbs made out of nothing? ... making a silk purse out of a sow's ear!

You people beat all I have ever seen.

I actually believe Hunt is a better short yardage back. Chubb is certainly a more productive back but in short yardage situations I think Hunt holds the advantage.

Chubb is a very good back, and has made something out of nothing many times, but that is not the same as being a good short yardage back, let alone the best one in the league.

If he were the best one in the league, then he could get one or two yards even with the predictable play calling and poor blocking.

He does not just take the ball and hit the line, he takes a slight pause and looks for a hole. That is not the best approach in short yardage.

Chubb has been amazing when he can cut and go. He sees creases on the field, and just explodes. Unfortunately. we stunk last year in "short" situations.

This could be a playcalling issue, could be an OL issue, and it could be that Chubb is not as good in stacked box situations as he is in others. Nonetheless, last year he was called upon 16 times in 3rd/4th and short (1-2 yards) and gained a total of 17 yards on those runs. That doesn't sound too bad, until you also notice that he had a long run of 15 yards in that situation. That means that the other 15 runs in 3rd/4th and short gained a total of 2 yards.

Nick Chubb Stats, Splits | ESPN
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/splits/_/id/3128720/nick-chubb

We need to improve here, and I think that we will.

Are u saying Hilliard can be used like the Vikes did McKinnon? ... Is that what your suggesting?

J/c

Just on a similar note ... out of boredom I’ve watched a few games from 2018. I watched our game at Oakland (first of all, we BLEW that game AND got the short end of a few key calls ... no way we shoulda lost that game).

Anyways, watching Carlos Hyde was painful. The fact that he was getting the majority of our carries at that point makes no sense to me ... and IYRC Chubb had 3 carries for like 100 yards and 2 TDS haha.

Chubb’s combination of power, speed, and elusiveness is crazy

Why?

Does he break more tackles? No! Not imo.

Does he run with better vision ... again not imo.

Jim Brown wouldn't have scored on some of those GL plays this past season ... again imo.

I don't think that we have seen the best of Nick Chubb hitherto.

The best is yet to come