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You have yet to make a point. Just for you:

If a tree fell in the forest and landed on mgh, would anyone care?

I live in sc part of the year ... this primary season they found sc ballots in virginia ... the last 3 elections there;s been 3 recounts due to ‘misplaced” ballots and there’s also been lost ballots ...

Also ask the menZa how broward county is doing with there ballots ... they can’t even keep track of there machine ballots, how the hell they gonna handle all the mail in ones now ... *L* ... then add to it that women is one corrupt government official ...

I mean what could go wrong ... the us postal service known for there great service ... u can count on the us post office to deliver your letter or package more times than not ... what could possibly go wrong ..

Yep a GOP governor In SC ..no doubt he’s behind all the voter fraud you have in SC. Mail in votes will bypass your GOP gerrymandering. We understand why GOPers don’t want that. Pfft the trump era.

You've done the same thing throughout the thread - but lets just look at the most recent topic:


1. You stated that only 67 people contracted the virus from 400,000 voters .... after I said that number was faulty because there was not enough testing, you told me I couldn't read... without addressing a single point.

2. I explained patiently that the claim that only 67 people contracted CV-19 was faulty because there is a lack of testing. Your response was a ramble/deflection about people dying of a heart attack after learning they had caught CV-19. You then told me the source of the article you posted as if that somehow meant that the 400,000 had all been tested or something.... didn't address a single point.

3. You then explained to me about how the testing is done. In great detail. Insulted me some more and repeated that I needed to or can't read...... didn't address my point.

4. Claimed it was me that didn't make a point and insulted me again! ...... didn't address a single point.

It's all there in black and white and is fact, everyone and anyone can see it and read it.

Thanks

One thing he certainly can't address. First, we know that many who get the virus are asymptomatic. So they were never tested to begin with. So there's no way the total cases of 67 is correct. 67 are only the cases they knew about.

Here's the real question, of even the known 67 cases, how many people were infected from those 67 people? I guess according to Eric they wouldn't count in the number of cases caused from the election. And anyone with a brain knows that number would be very high.

That's what cracks me up about all these "Freedom. Liberty!", yelling people. If they wish to risk their health alone, more power to them. But they're not just risking their own personal health. They're choosing to risk the health of everyone they come in contact with and pretend those people shouldn't have any say in it.

This is just becoming more humorous as it keeps going. Appearantly you think I just pull numbers out of the thin air.

The primaries in Wisconsin was watched and monitored by the cdc, nih, and other health agencies in the state. Of those voters, only 67 reported contracting the virus. Of those reporting, none of them can confirm that they contacted it from the polls. In other words, the polls weren't their only trip into public.

You seem to think that if these people were not tested before and daily afterwards, then these numbers cannot be correct. I relayed findings from the cdc, nih, and other health agencies that testing is no where near accurate or effective, mostly due to the 3 week average incubation period of thus virus. As the testing is not accurate, then it's useless for the premise in which you want it applied.

The majority of people that have died from the virus are elderly or have underlying medical problems. An 80 year old black man with heart problems, copd, and high blood pressure is more likely to die than a 20 year old white woman who's healthy. This is more due to one more stressor on this person's health than the virus itself. The virus also seems to be more troublesome to men and blacks. All these factors make testing useless to anyone other than researchers and those with an active case. Just the fact that NYC was putting seniors with active cases into nursing homes has skewed the numbers.

Testing to see who had the virus is useless. The antibodies fade over time. By the time the government tested everyone, most are going to give off false negatives.

The only point I see that you've made so far is that you're scared to go vote in person, so the rest of us shouldn't be able to vote in person either. You then try to point out that the rest of the populace is too stupid to vote without contaminating everyone else. This is when I asked you if you've been to the grocery store. Voting in public won't be much different then that. People will stand in line, wear masks and gloves or not, social distance or not, and will touch less things than a grocery store. If you can't see the comparison, that's on you being unable to envsision it.

A suddenly enacted vote by mail system will be rife with inaccuracies, fraud, and incompetence. It also should not be done by fiat. You already have a mechanism where you can apply for an absentee ballot. I don't need one, as I already know how to take care of myself.

Actually, anyone with a brain already knows those numbers were accurate. If the infection rate was higher, the Democrats would be using it as exhibit #1 to push their vote by mail initiative to the entire nation. As the numbers weren't higher, it didn't even get an honerable mention in the Democrat news oganization. Also, asymptomatic people test negative.

Isn't it amazing how people that want to accuse the rest of us of ignoring science will completely ignore science when it doesn't match their preconceived opinions?

So you are giving the number of how many people reported infections from voting day but wish to ignore any cases that resulted from those 67 spreading it further and claim others are ignoring something?

You do realize what the numbers are reporting and what they aren't reporting, right? It states plainly that they report cases that were reported from voting. NOWHERE does it state that any trace testing was done to see how many infections were spread by those 67 people.

You're just throwing BS now to see if it will stick to the wall.

No, I'm reporting the fact that out of 416000 people, only 67 reported contracting the virus. Of those 67, none of them could accurately state that they got it from the polls. In other words, they weren't only at the polls.

You, on the other hand, have stated conjecture that they infected others, and implied it could be a great deal more.

I have reported facts. You have reported your imagination.

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Except of course your "fact" is most definitely not a fact. We don't have enough data to know. Period. We can't POSSIBLY verify how many people contracted CV-19 out of the 400,000 people who voted unless we test all of them before and after - and we have an accurate test. One more case of #factsdontmatter

As for your other deflective bullcrap post in response to my last post. More deflection, more bullcrap, not addressing any point I made.

You do comprehend how viruses spread, right? People get around other people which causes them to get the virus. Those people who go around other people who get the virus. And so on, and so on and so on.

If it didn't spread that way, how could anyone have gotten the virus while voting?

That's not conjecture.

Would you like some links to read up about it? Maybe that would help you.

I guarantee you I am much more versed in virus morphology than you. I just happen to be married to a former biologist and virologist who worked for the feds. She invented the protocols to mitigate hoof and mouth that was ravaging the UK and other parts of Europe in the 90s. She's worked on mad cow, traced lead in Mexican children, traced the effects of pcbs in whale blubber, etc, etc.

I never said those 67 people got the virus from voting. I said quite clearly, that 67 out of 416000 contracted the virus after voting, and none of them were able to directly attribute their infection to being at the polls. Therefore, going to vote is no more dangerous than going to the grocery, work for a couple hours, or the hardware store. It's the same amount of possible exposure.

According to my wife, the virologist, going to a drive in testing facility is more dangerous than going to the local store or voting in person.

Did she explain why?
Because I find that statement very intriguing.

Because you're coming into contact with a person who is more likely to have had contact with an infected person. All it would take for you to get infected is a simple lapse in protocol, or even a breeze blowing the virus from their uniform on to you. Well people, with the exception of mgh and probably pitt, aren't going to go get tested. Sick people will.

Dream on. Pfft trump syndrome.

Portland had a post in the Sicario thread. It confirms what I've been saying. Don't forget to be afraid to vote or buy bread.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/05/coronavirus-covid19-exposure-risk-catching-virus-germs

No need for me to be afraid. I vote by mail. Like we all should have the option of doing.

In all states there's absentee ballots. I don't want my state forcing a rushed mail in fiasco.

Forced and Rushed? LOL. Majority rules snoozers loose.

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Just remember this.. If the libs here and everywhere are pushing for something its to their sickening agenda of hate for our America ,Religion the President and their love for illegal criminals, open borders etc. Maybe the people who find a way for FREE stuff should find a way to vote legally, after all its free to vote.

Your peeps couldn’t build a website in two years ... TWO YEARS ...

Yet u think we can somehow pull off a mail in voting system and have it fully functional in less than 1/2 a year ... BRILLIANT!!

This would be fraught with fraud and a joke regardless of who won ...

I guess to you and yours the bouncing ball just don’t matter ...

WTF dude ... u guys couldn’t even do a caucus this year ... how u think pulling off a national mail in election is in the realm of possibility is beyond realistic ...

And to top it off we have to rely on the POST OFFICE ... ...

And when they can't cheat their way to a win, they'll start screaming "russia" again.

Serious question ... I thought there was already systems designed and in place. This wouldn't be starting from nothing and creating something ... this would simply be adopting what's worked before elsewhere.

As for who wins and what the cry will be ... Well Trump is already positioning himself to cry foul about absentee voting etc ... claiming states have already done things illegally (which they have not) ... so we know what Trump will say.

If Trump wins - it will be because Biden is more of an inept fool than Trump is an inept incompetent Bully .... it could easily happen. I'd say it's literally 50/50 right now.

How does a russian bot register an account at DT?

I guess compiling a mailing list from voter registrations and sending out mail is to complicated for you to grasp. Yet Trump can figure it out to send out his post stimulus letters claiming the money came from him.

thanks

Most states still have 1000s of dead people on their voter rolls. Maybe that should be cleaned up first, seeing as dead people tend to vote democat.

Prove that.

He can't - it's a giant Alt Right myth that has the Trump base frothing at the mouth like a frenzied mob. It's why they stop thinking... all that emotion and hate and vitriol coursing through the veins, and all about a made up lie that's been proven to by false by Trump himself. #factsdontmatter

Do you really think I spend all day here? While it's hard to find who they vote for, it's easy to find dems registering dead voters.

https://www.wtvr.com/2017/06/26/andrew-spieles-guilty-plea?_amp=true
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thecalifornian.com/amp/3672406002
https://www.ire.org/resource-center/stories/?q=dead%20voters
https://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/j...58c186cd57.html
https://930amtheanswer.com/content/all/t...-people-to-vote

I would have to assume dems register dead people to have them vote democrat.

Democratic clerk charged with altering nearly 200 midterm elections ballots


By Victor Morton - The Washington Times
Tuesday, September 24, 2019

A Democratic city clerk in Michigan who had been honored by the state party for her work was charged this week with multiple felonies related to charges of altering absentee ballots.

Sherikia Hawkins was arraigned Monday in Southfield, Michigan, on six counts related to the 2018 election including forging public documents and misconduct in office and was released on $15,000 bond, according to National Review Online.

“The alleged misconduct was discovered after the Oakland County Clerk’s Office noticed that 193 voter files had been changed to reflect that the voters failed to include a valid signature or return date, when all of the implicated voters had in fact included both items. The county clerk’s office later discovered the original voter files in the trash at the election-division office,” National Review wrote.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/...qxMGClZ577Yj7E4

You posted 5 links. 1 didn't work, 2 were the same story, and 1 was about a Republican registering his dead dad and his dogs because he was trying to prove his own conspiracy theory, and was caught, as was the JMU student in the story posted twice.

Where in the article does it say, Richard Davis is a Republican? All the links work for me.

Yup, I posted 5 links I found on the first page of my Google search, Democrats register dead to vote. I replaced "democrats" with "republicans" and gave up after 5 pages, as there were no entries. Did you expect me to post 100s or 1000s to prove a point? I expect to get paid for that type of research, and I know most of you can't afford me.

LOL....good stuff Eric.

Forget it, just more loud mouth blabber from the loud mouth left.


Just hand them a hankie to wipe off the slobber.

NONE of that proved anything you said. You are just deflecting. You have time to make the statements of BS as if they are fact, yet you don't have the time or should be paid to prove your allegations... We call that trolling on the internet.

Here's an idea, keep the 8chan talk for your visits breitbart and the chans... When you come here, at least try to come with actual facts to back up your bogus arguments.

I'm not saying there has never been a dead voter on the roles or some BS going on with registrations. I'm saying this is a non issue. Voter fraud has been looked at and found to be insignificant EVEN by the right. Spreading fiction and the delusions of Trump does not change that no matter how hard you try.

Don't bother replying, you have zero credibility here with me.

Peen, there weren't enough tissues, toilet paper, or paper towels to mop up those tears before the pandemic. As for the drool, that's just what they do.

Oh no! I have zero credibility with a lib. Whatever will I do?

Btw, what the hell is 8chan?

It's a lot like a discussion that gets switched to grocery shopping .... or the source of a news story .... or how a test is administered instead of whether people were tested ....

It's the same old. Save your typing.