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"We don't like what you have to say, and won't believe you no matter what.", typical lib.

I also find it interesting that I get accused of going to a conspiracy site. Does anyone else find it interesting that Republicans have a conspiracy site, but dems have cnn, msnbc, abc, nbc, cbs, etc?

When you start responding to a discussion without trying to change the subject - or when you stop with the strawman arguments - when you stop posting Bullcrap and then trying to back it up with essentially nothing. . . . then you can join the adults in the room in a conversation. Till then you can stick to name calling, deflection and the Alt Right propaganda that you are so good at spreading

And if you are wondering - the two best examples of flat out "#factsdontmatter" .... 1. claiming as factual and absolute that only 67 people contracted CV-19 after WI primaries. (then trying to change the subject into how testing is done) 2. Claiming "most dead people vote democrat" ... which is just part of that whole "mass voter fraud by the commies" which is a Alt Right lie which has been PROVEN to be a false narrative by Trump's own administration.

This is why I question your reading comprehension. I said, 67 people of the 416000 that voted in person at the wisconsin primaries contracted the virus, but are unable to confirm where they might have contracted the virus. This was reported by many reputable news sources, and even several disreputable ones, like cnn. I know you and the other libs here want to read between those lines, conjecture who else might have contracted the virus during that time, or just not believe it because it doesn't fit your preconceived notions, or the lies your beloved politicians tell you. It's still a reported fact.

You do realize that the libs here get a woody every time that there are infected or dying from covid every time the economy gets hit every time job losses mount up so the can use the lib lies against Trump but all of a sudden there worried about the voters safety when it comes to their advantage on rigging elections in which mail in voting would give them the advantage cause it aint beyond them to cheat.

You are twisting in the wind again. I said that the report is faulty because we don't have enough data. That the report - regardless of origin or how often repeated - is faulty because we don't have enough testing. . . . . You then responded about how testing is done. So you deflected and didn't answer my point.

Now you are spinning once again. What is fact is that the number has been reported .... what is not fact is that the number is correct. Thanks for playing.

Go join Riley there - his level of conversation fits you to a tee.

You are quick to declare yourself victorious. I didn't tell you how testing was done. I told you why testing is ineffective. I guess we're back to that reading problem again.

From what you are saying, I get the feeling that you want everyone tested every day. This is impractical, if not impossible. That would mean 327 mil tests per day, 2.289 bil tests per week, and 9.810 bil tests per month.

Well people aren't going to get tested unless they're sick or had significant exposure to someone who is sick. Even then, if that test is not perfectly in the incubation period, you get a negative.

Isn't this your opinion?

Can you show a single example of those people who died, but had not yet been removed from the voter roles ever casting a vote?

Because that's what actually happened. Democrats didn't "register dead people to vote". They had simply not yet cleared them from the voter roles.

It seems to me a real possibility. No, dead people don't vote. However, if they were registered prior to voting, and hadn't been cleared off the roll, a ballot would be mailed. It could easily be filled out by a family member, or new tenant, and sent in, not?

No, it's not opinion.

1. Statistically it is virtually impossible the number is correct.

2. Statistically for it to be a *FACT* then it would need to be proven to be so ... not assumed that the number might be right.

So in answer to me spelling out that there is a lack of testing to know how accurate the '67' is .... you wrote this:

These tests are basically useless for everyone except the researchers who will write reports when the pandemic is over. This mostly has to do with the 3 week average incubation of the virus.

There are two types of tests that are used. The nucleid acid amplification test (swab), and the antibody test (blood).

If a person is infected, but is asymptomatic, the swab test is more likely to return a false negative. The best time to collect this sample is right before the onset of symptoms. It is also a difficult sample to collect, as it's best to get it from the soft palete at the back of the nose. If the sample is collected incorrectly, or too early before the onset of symptoms, or too long after symptoms are waning, you'll get a false negative.

The blood test also tends to throw false negatives. Once again, if a person is asymptomatic or has a mild infection, they will not have enough detectable antibodies. The antibodies also fade over time. As the antibodies fade over time, it's also possible to be reinfected. This also renders the testing useless to the general public.

And while I wrote a quick reply I referenced this as testing procedure -- and yes, you could more accurately surmise this as being about why testing data is not 100% accurate .... but either way it DOES NOT address my point. Thanks for playing. It's a STRAW MAN ARGUMENT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY POINT.

And no - I don't think every US citizen should go get tested. Something I never said or implied. Neither did I suggest the testing is 100% accurate. Neither did I suggest that the timing of the testing is unimportant.

Yes ... in theory it could. That would be voter fraud.

Based on historical evidence and Trump's own investigative work ... widespread Voter Fraud is NOT a thing. So while in theory something might be possible - doesn't make it a thing. It'd be like me suggesting that it's possible for a mass murderer to go buy guns and ammo right before he goes on a killing spree.... it's possible, yes. Does that mean we need to stop guns and ammo sales?

I certainly won't deny it is possible. Yet I've never seen a case reported where it has happened. You do know that Trump was so concentrated with proving voter fraud that he formed a commission on it after he was elected right?

They disbanded after having found nothing. Like I said, it's certainly a possibility. Yet one would think if it were going to happen we would see some evidence that it has happened.

Some seem to think mimicking Trump is a positive things. No facts, all rhetoric means they think they win some kind of prize. Most Americans realize Trump is an idiot. And they try their best to sound just like him.

No a ballot wouldn’t be mailed, Coroners and funeral homes are required to report deaths to the IRS and county registrars within 24 hrs. Your opinions don’t count as fact.

At least two of those stories I posted were democrats registering dead people to vote. As for the voter rolls not being cleared:

A new report by the Pew Center on the States finds that more than 1.8 million dead people are currently registered to vote. And 24 million registrations are either invalid or inaccurate.
https://www.npr.org/2012/02/14/146827471/study-1-8-million-dead-people-still-registered-to-vote

Looks to me that someone isn't doing their job.

Sounds sinister ... something to fear-monger with and whip up the base with for sure. "New" is a bit misleading for a 2012 article from NPR ... but still.

Virtually no evidence that any of the 1.8 million dead who are registered to vote -- or the 24 million invalid registrations have lead to ANY widespread voter fraud over the last 8 years ... but it makes a snappy headline!

You're talking to a guy who still believes, after being given ample evidence to the contrary, that muslims have "no-go" zones in the UK.

Don't waste your time.

Man do u have a lot to learn about how this place works ....

OCD/888/Pit all live on one way streets where the left can do no wrong and everything they say is true ... understanding the rules will save u a lot of head scratching and HUH ...

Oh please -- let me know how my explanation and response is incorrect.

Dude ... your wife’s an expert but her truth don’t matter cause it don’t fit there agenda ... bonefish’s sister on the other hand is also an expert but she is 100% believable cause it fits with there beliefs ...

U have no excuse for your naivety like rush does ... u been around here long enough ... *L* ..

You live on a street where you support a man who supports sexual assault, brags about walking in to see underage beauty pageant models naked, and gave hush money payments to a porn star.

You have no room to talk.

Bro... smh

Troglodytes live in caves.

And don't you support a guy that has credibly been accused of sexual assault, refered to black kids as cockroaches, has made many public pervert actions, and helped segregationist senators in the past. Before that, you supported a woman who helped her husband cover up rape, and sexual assault, while helping destroy those women publicly.

Please provide a sourced example from this very website where I say I support Biden or Hillary.

If you find such a post where I say Biden or Hillary were my people, I’ll leave Dawgtalkers forever.

If you fail, you leave Dawgtalkers forever.

Do we have a deal?

If you're going to try and come at me, make sure you don't miss the next time.

You proclaiming something you don’t know as true is a belief dude. How do you know his wife is an expert? Have you seen her credentials? What makes her an expert?

How do you know you even exist? You might just be a figment of my imagination.

My wife is a virologist that worked for the government. I have no reason to lie about her credentials. Believe what I tell you or not. Are you an expert in anything other than liberal theology?

No. I'll just take the lazy way out and tell you I'm not going to search through 100s of posts.

With that being said, who do you plan on voting for? I'm pretty sure it isn't Trump.

Another statement made as fact and then not backed up Sweet !

Actually, I asked him a question. I even posed, "and dont you support". I'll give you a break on this one due to your reading comprehension problem.

Can’t speak for others but I’d never vote for Joe in the primaries. Never. But he’ll get my ‘anything but trump’ vote come November. Joe is not my guy. This doesn’t matter to me at this point. The thought of another 4 years with trump at the helm is sickening.

And isn't that the sad truth, that we as voters don't get to vote for qualified candidates, but are are reduced to voting AGAINST the candidate we dislike the most.

Yeah So sad. But It’s always been that way. If you vote for trump you ain’t human.

3rd party... 3rd party votes have been trending up in recent years, though I expect this election to not follow that trend. I think quite a few Americans are simply going to vote against the incumbent.

That's one hell of a way to ask a question

But then when you invent your own questions to answer and continually come up with a strawman to argue against ... it surprises me not. Carry on.

The best part ... IF Trump came out tomorrow and said he was for voting by mail everyone of them would all of a sudden think it was the dumbest idea ever ... how sad is that cause even they know its true ...

Wrong. Again.