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From wikipedia:

Andy Cuong Ngô (born c. 1986) is an American conservative social media personality and journalist[disputed – discuss][2][3] best known for covering street protests in Portland, Oregon. He is editor at large of The Post Millennial, a Canadian conservative news website. Ngo received national attention in June 2019 when he was assaulted by unidentified assailants who appeared to be Antifa protesters while covering a counter protest to a Proud Boys march in Portland, and later due to alleged connections with the far-right groups Patriot Prayer and Proud Boys.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Ngo
Just saying bro...


You need to to a better job encapsulating Andy Ngo than a Wiki page. Calling him a conservative because wikipedia says so is laughable. He is far from that.

Do some homework.

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AP is reporting a Semi-Trailer just drove through a Crowd in Minneapolis. Hope everybody is alright.



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I concede people who have libertarian/centrist views (Ngo included) might be leaning more right these days but that is not conservatism, whatsoever.

I'll leave you to your own devices on why that might be.


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Man that ANTIFA is bad... smh

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Sunday, May 31, 2020

Attorney General William P. Barr's Statement on Riots and Domestic Terrorism

Attorney General William P. Barr has issued the following statement:

“With the rioting that is occurring in many of our cities around the country, the voices of peaceful and legitimate protests have been hijacked by violent radical elements. Groups of outside radicals and agitators are exploiting the situation to pursue their own separate, violent, and extremist agenda.

It is time to stop watching the violence and to confront and stop it. The continued violence and destruction of property endangers the lives and livelihoods of others, and interferes with the rights of peaceful protestors, as well as all other citizens.

It also undercuts the urgent work that needs to be done – through constructive engagement between affected communities and law enforcement leaders – to address legitimate grievances. Preventing reconciliation and driving us apart is the goal of these radical groups, and we cannot let them succeed.

It is the responsibility of state and local leaders to ensure that adequate law enforcement resources, including the National Guard where necessary, are deployed on the streets to reestablish law and order. We saw this finally happen in Minneapolis last night, and it worked.

Federal law enforcement actions will be directed at apprehending and charging the violent radical agitators who have hijacked peaceful protest and are engaged in violations of federal law.

To identify criminal organizers and instigators, and to coordinate federal resources with our state and local partners, federal law enforcement is using our existing network of 56 regional FBI Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTF).

The violence instigated and carried out by Antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly.”
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They're protesting in Berlin, in Toronto, and in London!!

screw the system and the people that support it!


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Butt ton of protesters in ATL right now. Everything peaceful so far.


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What the hell is the matter with that guy


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Police say man brandishing bow and arrow at Salt Lake City protest is being screened for charges

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-...-salt-lake-city

this man lied on live tv talking about he was attacked out of nowhere. bro, everybody has a camera.


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In each of the last 2 nights, somebody has hacked or taken a police radio and blocking all police traffic by playing music on the citywide channel in Chicago

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Interesting look at how this is being reported by local news affiliates in Ft.. Lauderdale.

Local ABC (WPLG) affiliate shows video of cop's behavior inciting violence.

Local FOX (WSVN) affiliate points to protestors throwing water bottles at police as inciting violence.

Local CBS affiliate rides the fence and say it's not sure how things started.



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Follow-up on Ft. Lauderdale incident...


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Fires in the park across from the White House. MSNBC assuming Trump has been taken to WH bunker due to secret service defensive positions.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
MSNBC assuming Trump


Imagine that! saywhat I wonder who's hot on the story Rachel Anne or Lawrence 'stop the hammering' O'Donnell? superconfused

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Weekend crew, those two wouldn't waste the time worrying about Trump. They would just report the loser is in the basement bunker rage tweeting like a coward, then they would move on to meaningful events.

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Originally Posted By: fishtheice
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MSNBC assuming Trump


Imagine that! saywhat I wonder who's hot on the story Rachel Anne or Lawrence 'stop the hammering' O'Donnell? superconfused


Associated Press
Trump took shelter in White House bunker as protests raged
JONATHAN LEMIRE and ZEKE MILLER
Associated PressMay 31, 2020, 10:09 PM EDT


WASHINGTON (AP) — Secret Service agents rushed President Donald Trump to a White House bunker on Friday night as hundreds of protesters gathered outside the executive mansion, some of them throwing rocks and tugging at police barricades.

Trump spent nearly an hour in the bunker, which was designed for use in emergencies like terrorist attacks, according to a Republican close to the White House who was not authorized to publicly discuss private matters and spoke on condition of anonymity. The account was confirmed by an administration official who also on condition of anonymity.

The abrupt decision by the agents underscored the rattled mood inside the White House, where the chants from protesters in Lafayette Park could be heard all weekend and Secret Service agents and law enforcement officers struggled to contain the crowds.

Friday's protests were triggered by the death of George Floyd, a black man who died after he was pinned at the neck by a white Minneapolis police officer. The demonstrations in Washington turned violent and appeared to catch officers by surprise. They sparked one of the highest alerts on the White House complex since the Sept. 11 attacks in 2001 .

“The White House does not comment on security protocols and decisions,” said White House spokesman Judd Deere. The Secret Service said it does not discuss the means and methods of its protective operations. The president's move to the bunker was first reported by The New York Times.

The president and his family have been shaken by the size and venom of the crowds, according to the Republican. It was not immediately clear if first lady Melania Trump and the couple’s 14-year-old son, Barron, joined the president in the bunker. Secret Service protocol would have called for all those under the agency's protection to be in the underground shelter.

Trump has told advisers he worries about his safety, while both privately and publicly praising the work of the Secret Service.

Trump traveled to Florida on Saturday to view the first manned space launch from the U.S. in nearly a decade. He returned to a White House under virtual siege, with protesters — some violent — gathered just a few hundred yards away through much of the night.

Demonstrators returned Sunday afternoon, facing off against police at Lafayette Park into the evening.

Trump continued his effort to project strength, using a series of inflammatory tweets and delivering partisan attacks during a time of national crisis.

As cities burned night after night and images of violence dominated television coverage, Trump’s advisers discussed the prospect of an Oval Office address in an attempt to ease tensions. The notion was quickly scrapped for lack of policy proposals and the president’s own seeming disinterest in delivering a message of unity.

Trump did not appear in public on Sunday. Instead, a White House official who was not authorized to discuss the plans ahead of time said Trump was expected in the coming days to draw distinctions between the legitimate anger of peaceful protesters and the unacceptable actions of violent agitators.

On Sunday, Trump retweeted a message from a conservative commentator encouraging authorities to respond with greater force.

“This isn’t going to stop until the good guys are willing to use overwhelming force against the bad guys,” Buck Sexton wrote in a message amplified by the president.

In recent days security at the White House has been reinforced by the National Guard and additional personnel from the Secret Service and the U.S. Park Police.

On Sunday, the Justice Department deployed members of the U.S. Marshals Service and agents from the Drug Enforcement Administration to supplement National Guard troops outside the White House, according to a senior Justice Department official. The official could not discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.

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Lemire reported from New York. Associated Press writer Michael Balsamo contributed to this report.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-took-shelter-white-house-020928976.html


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Thank you for the information, Jester, it's appreciated.

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Thank you for the information, Jester, it's appreciated.


Good deal fish. regardless of who anyone believes or disbelieves,I think we can all agree that there is a lot of misinformation out there.


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg


It is time they start using real bullets.

Black lives do matter!
Protesters lives matter!
Rioters!Looters! and others lives do not matter!


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Rioters!Looters! and others lives do not matter!


That's because they don't wear orange & Brown, bro-


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Rioters!Looters! and others lives do not matter!


That's because they don't wear orange & Brown, bro-




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So, what are the next steps? How does a city or state handle police reform? I watched a video of the head of the Chicago Police Review Board crying on air and talking about change, but shouldn't he have been forcing change months ago? And when he does, what changes can be made?

I don't expect anyone to have all or very detailed examples, but I'd like to know how we all get out of this. If won't be overnight, but something big has to happen early to show changes are going to happen.


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I think it starts with officers feeling empowered to report things, and those things are properly investigated. And that they don't feel they put their jobs in jeopardy in doing so.

Maybe a 3rd party report and investigative agency?

Body camera footage is uploaded automatically and can be retrieved by investigators without the department in question being informed.

More and better training on interacting with people and diffusing situations?


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Trump’s policies have enabled police violence against black Americans
With pardons, abdication of oversight, harsh rhetoric, and executive orders, the Trump administration has encouraged violent policing.

By Sean Collins May 30, 2020, 3:50pm EDT


The police violence currently being protested in dozens of cities around the United States predates President Donald Trump by decades — so do the sentiments that fuel it, by at least 401 years, to the start of American slavery.

But since his inauguration, Trump and his administration have worked to solidify a place for police violence in American life through both rhetoric and policy.

My colleague Matt Yglesias explained how on Twitter — noting that the president’s first attorney general, Jeff Sessions, who was accused of perpetuating racist systems before and during his tenure, announced in February 2017 that the administration would no longer pursue civil rights lawsuits or investigations related to accusations of police misconduct.

Such work was aggressively pursued by the Obama administration, and resulted in at least 15 consent decrees — arrangements under which local governments consent to federal oversight in order to bring their policing in line with federal civil rights laws.

Sessions was notably against these decrees; in a speech about one of the last to be put in place, with Chicago, the former attorney general said, “Micromanaging the CPD through a federal court isn’t just unjustified — it is an insult.”

Refusing to pursue new decrees has left local governments struggling to improve their police forces on their own — and has allowed those unwilling to do so to continue ignoring violations of rights and other issues.

But the federal government has stepped in to aggravate a problem highlighted by the protests following Michael Brown’s killing in Ferguson, Missouri: the militarization of the police force.

Again reversing an Obama-era policy, Trump signed an executive order in August 2017 allowing police departments to obtain and use surplus military equipment like grenade launchers, tactical vehicles, and bayonets either for free or with the use of federal dollars.

As Amanda Taub explained for Vox in 2014, the use of military equipment on the streets of Ferguson worsened an already tense situation as officers — not all of whom had received proper training on the use of the military equipment they were employing — who looked like “invading armies” performed their work using fear and force rather than community-building techniques.

Frustration with such tactics is apparent in the protests happening around the country right now. It is harsh tactics that led to the killing of George Floyd, the Minneapolis, Minnesota man who died after an officer placed his knee on Floyd’s neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds.

Trump, however, has actively encouraged police to use forceful, even military-style tactics in the course of their work. Speaking to law enforcement officials in New York in 2017, Trump said, “please, don’t be too nice,” when arresting people.

“When you guys put somebody in the car and you’re protecting their head, you know, the way you put their hand over, like, don’t hit their head and they’ve just killed somebody,” the president said during that address. “Don’t hit their head. I said, you can take the hand away, okay?”

And he has continued delivering such rhetoric. Saturday, he praised what he characterized as rough tactics by Secret Service officials working to secure the White House amid the police brutality protests, writing on Twitter, “whenever someone got too frisky or out of line, [the Secret Service] would quickly come down on them, hard - didn’t know what hit them.”

“Nobody came close to breaching the fence,” the president wrote. “If they had they would have been greeted with the most vicious dogs, and most ominous weapons, I have ever seen. That’s when people would have been really badly hurt, at least.”

He also suggested members of the service were eagerly awaiting a chance to inflict violence on peaceful protests, tweeting, “Many Secret Service agents just waiting for action. ‘We put the young ones on the front line, sir, they love it, and good practice.’”

It is distressing to see the president advocating for the sort of law enforcement response that so many in the US are arguing is problematic, and that tens of thousands have demanded be declared unacceptable in recent days. But it is clear the president and members of his administration do not see harsh police tactics as a problem.

The Trump administration has shown law enforcement can operate with impunity
If there is something wrong with law enforcement in the US, the Trump administration has seemed to suggest, it is that there are too many restrictions placed on police without enough plaudits given to them.

The current attorney general, William Barr, has vocally wondered why communities — particularly the communities of color that most frequently suffer the often deadly consequences of police brutality — don’t respect officers. And he has suggested that perhaps those communities not inclined to show “the respect and support that law enforcement deserves” have their police protection taken away from them.

In his actions, Trump has gone beyond giving law enforcement the sort of support Barr advocated for — he has in fact, given them carte blanche to act lawfully or lawlessly as they see fit.

For instance, when a Trump ally and former sheriff, Joe Arpaio, was convicted of criminal contempt of court following his refusal to follow a federal order meant to protect immigrants from racial profiling, Trump pardoned him. Troops convicted of (and under investigation for) war crimes have been pardoned as well.

Separate from concerns the president has allowed unfairly violent and sometimes racist behavior are the reminders that one justice system exists for those like Floyd and another for those connected to Trump.

The president has suggested he’ll pardon his friend and former campaign adviser Roger Stone, despite Stone having been found guilty of lying to Congress, tampering with a witness, and obstructing an official proceeding. And amid speculation Trump would pardon former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn should he face legal consequences for admitting to lying to the FBI, Barr’s Department of Justice dropped its case against Flynn.

Although such actions do not necessarily perpetuate racist or overly harsh policing, they certainly add to the frustration many feel: that the police are not there for them, and there is little point to seeing justice through; that the president of the United States has no respect or use for the process of law, and that he believes aggressive, and even racially motivated, tactics to be the most effective.

In isolation, comments like Barr’s or Trump’s New York speech reflect a sort of ignorance or refusal to accept that there are issues with policing in the US. But in totality, it is clear that the Trump administration’s actions have actively created an atmosphere in which more dangerous, less just, and unconstitutional policing can flourish. Floyd’s death emerged from this atmosphere, and the protests are a reaction not just to that killing, but to the Trump administration’s words and policies that allowed it — as well as to the unjust policing of the past.

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President Donald Trump berated governors during a call on Monday, calling them “weak” and demanding they “dominate” protesters with force after another night of uprisings in American cities.

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-rep...ers-with-force/

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Just your normal Monday where sitting senators advocate for your military to murder your own civilians.

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way to lead the country during tough times, Trump.

cant even address the public. talks tough on twitter, then goes and hides in the bunker, and now is berating governors over protest and riots while he himself has completely failed to provide any sort of leadership.

conservatives elected a reality tv host as president, and we are now getting reality tv style leadership, which is basically none.

you know what Trump? dont even bother addressing the nation. We'll let Biden do it after november.


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Originally Posted By: northlima dawg
President Donald Trump berated governors during a call on Monday, calling them “weak” and demanding they “dominate” protesters with force after another night of uprisings in American cities.

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-rep...ers-with-force/

The cities that have fared the best and the cities that have fared the worst during this would seem to indicate otherwise.

Though it doesn't surprise me at all that Donald Trump views trying to understand somebody else's position, trying to find common ground, trying to work together, and trying to solve collective problems as "weakness"....

In the first 5 months of 2020, Donald Trump has had TWO somewhat extreme and unique opportunities to show genuine leadership and has failed miserably at both.

We can argue all day long about the role of black protestors in this, the role of Antifa, the role of white supremacists, the role of the media, the role of state and local governments... I have opinions on all of that and would welcome a good exchange of ideas with anybody who is interested.. but the one thing I'm prepared to say right now.. the president has unequivocally failed in the countries time of need.


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way to lead the country during tough times, Trump.

cant even address the public. talks tough on twitter, then goes and hides in the bunker, and now is berating governors over protest and riots while he himself has completely failed to provide any sort of leadership.

conservatives elected a reality tv host as president, and we are now getting reality tv style leadership, which is basically none.

you know what Trump? dont even bother addressing the nation. We'll let Biden do it after november.


What do you think would happen if Trump did decide to address the nation on this topic? Does anyone think that would help settle things down? OR is is much more likely to inflame the situation?


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Help me out here Eve, where is Antifa Headqquartered


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Help me out here Eve, where is Antifa Headqquartered


It was a bogus claim stemming from a bogus website.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/anti...idential-areas/

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