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Man the dems are on the brink of insanity bowing to the anarchists that want to rid the country of police protection to innocent patriot Americans, they are playing a dangerous game of politics ...the old saying be ,careful what you wish for.

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Like all of a sudden they want police reform. We all could see the problem for years and now they want to take the lead, screw them and the dunces that fall for their phony ,I love minorities now revelation...where have they been on this issue for all those years.
The honest protesters had to finally get these lying phony abutts feet to the fire or they still would not have address this problem,,,,good on the protesters.

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Since you don't want to learn what they are actually after, I won't bother trying to explain it to you. You'll just rant and refuse to try and learn anything.

Nobody wants to "rid the nation of police protection". That's just another lie put out by the uninformed.


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As I understand it, yes they can. They can serve two full terms and the partial term where they take over would not count against that.


Someone can only serve 2 terms. Whether or not the time served when they went from VP to pres counts as a term depends on how long they served. If it was over 2 years, it counts as a term and they can only be elected one more time.


If elected, Biden should resign after serving 2 years and 1 day. Then his VP candidate can finish his term and run for President as the incumbent which is a big advantage. That person would then be able to run again 4 years later.


That would be clever, but I can't see the dems pulling this off. They couldn't even put up a candidate to beat Donald Trump. And given some of the people Biden's considering as a running mate, hoo boy.


Hard to argue with that. I saw a list of 12-15 potential VP's. There were 2 that I could get behind. There were 3-4 others that I didn't know but the states they are from could be beneficial. The rest left me shaking my head, except for one that leaves me completely dumbfounded that she is even being considered let alone as high on the list as I hear she is.


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Donald Trump’s Campaign Fires Off Cease-And-Desist Letter To CNN Over Poll That Shows Joe Biden With Wide Lead

Ted Johnson
June 10, 2020, 2:28 PM EDT

President Donald Trump’s re-election campaign sent a cease-and-desist letter to CNN demanding that it retract and apologize for a poll showing Joe Biden with a 14-point lead in the race for the White House.

“We stand by our poll,” a CNN spokesperson said.

Donald Trump Says He's Retained Pollster To Refute CNN, Other Networks That Show Joe Biden Lead

A Trump campaign spokesperson did not immediately return a request for comment, but in the letter, senior legal adviser Jenna Ellis and chief operating officer Michael Glassner write to CNN chief Jeff Zucker that the poll was “designed to mislead American voters through a biased questionnaire and skewed sampling.”

“Media polls such as these are designed to manufacture an anti-Trump narrative and misinform and mislead actual voters,” they wrote. “It’s a stunt and a phony poll to cause voter suppression, stifle momentum and enthusiasm for the President, and present a false view generally of the actual support across America for the President.”

Irked by the poll’s results, Trump announced Monday that he had retained pollster John McLaughlin to do an analysis of the poll.

In their letter, Ellis and Glassner wrote: “According to our independent assessment via the highly respected McLaughlin & Associates, ‘The CNN poll out today is another skewed anti-Trump poll of only 25% Republican. It’s a poll of 1,259 adults — not even registered voters, let alone likely voters. Also, it was done between June 2nd and 5th, before the great economic news from last Friday.’ Further, the questions and topics selected likely biased the poll further.”

Trump often has lashed out at polls as “fake,” including those conducted by Fox News. Other polls also show Trump falling behind Biden, some with a smaller but still significant gap. The RealClearPolitics national average of polls on Wednesday shows Biden with an 8.1-point lead.

The campaign requested that CNN retract the poll, which was conducted by SSRS, “by publishing a full, fair, and conspicuous retraction, apology, and clarification to correct its misleading conclusions.” They also claim that the poll is defamatory and misleading.

In a story on the Trump campaign letter, CNN.com noted that “while it’s accurate that 1,259 adults were reached on landlines or cell phones by a live interviewer for the survey, the 14-point margin by which Trump is trailing Biden came from a question posed only to 1,125 registered voters. It’s typical for polling to sample registered voters rather than likely ones at this stage of the race, as it’s difficult to project whether voters will participate in an election that is five months away.” The cable news network also noted that the 25% sample of Republicans is a percentage that is “consistent with several other major polls that use live telephone interviews, which provide the most reliable snapshot of the race.”

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/donald-trump-campaign-fires-off-182855820.html


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That's just another lie put out to the uninformed.


(adjusted to make a point)


Those who are putting it out there know exactly what they're doing. They are relying on the Rileys of this world swallowing it whole, without even looking to see what's on the fork.

Sad thing is how often it works.
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I don't know why Trump and his administration is concerned with this. The polls were the worst indicator of the overall outcome that had ever been seen. brownie


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Trump Issues Emergency Executive Order On Pipelines
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,Oilprice.com•June 8, 2020

On Thursday, President Trump signed an executive order that guts environmental protections for new mines and pipelines, using an “emergency” declaration.

Citing the economic emergency stemming from the fallout of the COVID-19 pandemic, the President signed an executive order that waives requirements as part of the Endangered Species Act and the National Environmental Policy Act. These are decades-old environmental processes with which fossil fuel projects need to comply before breaking ground, but Trump’s executive order erases those protections.

With the U.S. economy suffering from around 20 million fewer jobs compared to February, the economy is indeed in a crisis, notwithstanding the surprise uptick in jobs in May. But the ‘emergency’ context, with protests taking place across the country right now, may face legal challenges at a later date.

Environmental groups blasted Trump’s executive order as an overreach. “President Trump is exploiting a global pandemic to further marginalize voices calling for a more just and equitable society,” Lauren Pagel, Earthworks Policy Director, said in a statement. “Today's Executive Order is another example in far too long a list of how this Administration runs roughshod over our basic values: an attempt to deliberately silence people in decisions that immediately impact their lives.”

Related: Will U.S. Shale Ever Return To Its Boom Days?

The National Mining Association, on the other hand, welcomed Trump’s decision. “Today’s executive order provides an opportunity to jumpstart our economic recovery by ensuring that we are rebuilding and modernizing with American-made materials, equipment and jobs,” Rich Nolan, NMA President & CEO, said in a statement.

But there are questions about the efficacy of Trump’s executive order. The fast-tracked permitting process is intended to juice the economy. However, it is hard to imagine fossil fuel companies making risky investments on projects that are given the green light under an executive order that will likely be subject to litigation.

It is also unlikely that companies will be looking to pour money into large-scale fossil fuel projects when the energy market is suffering as it is.

On the other hand, some analysts say that Trump’s executive order could still be effective. While it will almost certainly be subject to litigation, “the Administration’s project-by-project approach suggests to us that infrastructure opponents would have to take these actions to court individually as they occur,” ClearView Energy Partners wrote in a note. “The wheels of justice can move slowly and the hurdles to opponents securing stays pending judicial review can be difficult to reach.”

ClearView said that it had received questions from clients about whether the executive order was intended to fast-track projects to completion before the presidential election later this year, but the firm said that the answer is unclear because not all of the options available would result in that outcome.

Related: Global Oil Demand To Fall To Levels Not Seen Since 2014

The firm identified the Atlantic Coast Pipeline and Mountain Valley Pipeline as two issues that immediately come to mind. Both projects are natural gas pipelines that would connect Marcellus Shale gas to the southeast, but they have each had permitting troubles.

It’s unclear what the effect of the executive order might be, since they are both likely already priorities of the Trump administration. In other words, federal agencies are already trying as hard as possible to push them along. ClearView Energy Partners says that perhaps the order would call upon the Department of Agriculture – within which is the Forest Service – to dedicate “more manpower” to the permit reviews.

But for now, it is too early to tell how significant this particular executive order will be. At a minimum, the move may be an attempt to change the conversation away from nationwide protests and back to Trump’s efforts to revive the economy.

By Nick Cunningham of Oilprice.com

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-issues-emergency-executive-order-210000254.html

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Trump: No change at bases named for Confederate officers

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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Wednesday said his administration will “not even consider” changing the name of any of the 10 Army bases that are named for Confederate Army officers. Two days earlier, Defense Secretary Mark Esper indicated that he was open to a broad discussion of such changes.

“These Monumental and very Powerful Bases have become part of a Great American Heritage, a history of Winning, Victory, and Freedom,” Trump wrote. “The United States of America trained and deployed our HEROES on these Hallowed Grounds, and won two World Wars. Therefore, my Administration will not even consider the renaming of these Magnificent and Fabled Military Installations.”

Name changes have not been proposed by the Army or the Pentagon, but on Monday, Esper and Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy indicated in response to questions from reporters that they were “open to a bipartisan discussion” of renaming bases such as Fort Bragg in North Carolina and Fort Benning in Georgia.

Supporters of disassociating military bases from Confederate Army officers argue that they represent the racism and divisiveness of the Civil War era and glorify men who fought against the United States.

To amplify Trump's view, his press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany, read his tweets to reporters in the White House briefing room. She said he is “fervently” opposed to changing the base names and believes that doing so would amount to “complete disrespect” for soldiers who trained there over the years.

The possibility of renaming the bases, McEnany said, is “an absolute non-starter” for Trump.

If Congress were to pass legislation requiring name changes, he would not sign it, she said.

The U.S. military recently began rethinking its traditional connection to Confederate Army symbols, including the Army base names, mindful of their divisiveness at a time the nation is wrestling with questions of race after the death of George Floyd in police hands. The Navy and the Marine Corps are now banning public displays of the Confederate Army battle flag on their installations, casting their decision as necessary to preserve cohesion within the ranks.

Ten major Army installations are named for Confederate Army officers, mostly senior generals, including Robert E. Lee. Among the 10 is Fort Benning, the namesake of Confederate Army Gen. Henry L. Benning, who was a leader of Georgia's secessionist movement and an advocate of preserving slavery. Others are in Virginia, North Carolina, Alabama, Texas and Louisiana. The naming was done mostly after World War I and in the 1940s, in some cases as gestures of conciliation to the South.

Few voices in the military are openly defending the link to Confederate symbols, but some of the bases named for Confederate officers are legendary in their own right. Fort Bragg, for example, is home to some of the Army's most elite forces. Any decision to change the name at Bragg or other bases likely would involve consulting with officials from the affected states and localities.

Paul Eaton, a retired two-star Army general and a former commanding general of Fort Benning, said Trump's statements go against ideals the Army stands for.

“Today, Donald Trump made it official. Rather than move this nation further away from institutionalized racism, he believes we should cling to it and its heritage, by keeping the names of racist traitors on the gates of our military bases,” Eaton said.

Peter Mansoor, a retired Army colonel and veteran of the Iraq war, said in an email exchange that renaming these bases is long overdue.

“Most serving soldiers know little about the history behind the Confederate leaders for whom these bases are named, or the political deals that caused them to be honored in this fashion,” he said. “There might be some pushback from a small segment of soldiers from the South, but this is what we like to call a ‘teachable moment.’ Now is the time to finally bring about a change that will speak volumes as to what the U.S. Army stands for.”

David Petraeus, a retired four-star Army general, said the renaming move, which he supports, amounts to a “war of memory,” and that before deciding to rename bases like Fort Bragg, where he served with the 82nd Airborne Division, the Army must be ready to follow its own procedures for such change.

“The irony of training at bases named for those who took up arms against the United States, and for the right to enslave others, is inescapable to anyone paying attention," Petraeus wrote in an essay published Tuesday by The Atlantic. “Now, belatedly, is the moment for us to pay such attention.”

Fort Bragg was named for Braxton Bragg, a native North Carolinian and Confederate general with a reputation for bravery and mediocre leadership. His forces were defeated at the Battle of Chattanooga in November 1863.


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Donald Trump’s Campaign Fires Off Cease-And-Desist Letter To CNN Over Poll That Shows Joe Biden With Wide Lead

Ted Johnson
June 10, 2020, 2:28 PM EDT

President Donald Trump’s re-election campaign sent a cease-and-desist letter to CNN demanding that it retract and apologize for a poll showing Joe Biden with a 14-point lead in the race for the White House.

“We stand by our poll,” a CNN spokesperson said.

Donald Trump Says He's Retained Pollster To Refute CNN, Other Networks That Show Joe Biden Lead

A Trump campaign spokesperson did not immediately return a request for comment, but in the letter, senior legal adviser Jenna Ellis and chief operating officer Michael Glassner write to CNN chief Jeff Zucker that the poll was “designed to mislead American voters through a biased questionnaire and skewed sampling.”

“Media polls such as these are designed to manufacture an anti-Trump narrative and misinform and mislead actual voters,” they wrote. “It’s a stunt and a phony poll to cause voter suppression, stifle momentum and enthusiasm for the President, and present a false view generally of the actual support across America for the President.”

Irked by the poll’s results, Trump announced Monday that he had retained pollster John McLaughlin to do an analysis of the poll.

In their letter, Ellis and Glassner wrote: “According to our independent assessment via the highly respected McLaughlin & Associates, ‘The CNN poll out today is another skewed anti-Trump poll of only 25% Republican. It’s a poll of 1,259 adults — not even registered voters, let alone likely voters. Also, it was done between June 2nd and 5th, before the great economic news from last Friday.’ Further, the questions and topics selected likely biased the poll further.”

Trump often has lashed out at polls as “fake,” including those conducted by Fox News. Other polls also show Trump falling behind Biden, some with a smaller but still significant gap. The RealClearPolitics national average of polls on Wednesday shows Biden with an 8.1-point lead.

The campaign requested that CNN retract the poll, which was conducted by SSRS, “by publishing a full, fair, and conspicuous retraction, apology, and clarification to correct its misleading conclusions.” They also claim that the poll is defamatory and misleading.

In a story on the Trump campaign letter, CNN.com noted that “while it’s accurate that 1,259 adults were reached on landlines or cell phones by a live interviewer for the survey, the 14-point margin by which Trump is trailing Biden came from a question posed only to 1,125 registered voters. It’s typical for polling to sample registered voters rather than likely ones at this stage of the race, as it’s difficult to project whether voters will participate in an election that is five months away.” The cable news network also noted that the 25% sample of Republicans is a percentage that is “consistent with several other major polls that use live telephone interviews, which provide the most reliable snapshot of the race.”

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/donald-trump-campaign-fires-off-182855820.html


They might as well send a letter to fox also-they had Biden +14 2 days ago.

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On environmental policy alone I would like to see trump cut off at the knees.

The worst president this country has ever seen by a long shot.

He stands alone.

He seems hellbent to ruin this country. At every turn he makes putrid decisions.


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Let's do absolutely everything we can to recreate visible are, and s# in our own water supply.

That'll make us 'great' again.


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Nobody wants to "rid the nation of police protection". That's just another lie put out by the uninformed.


If getting rid of police is not want they want, perhaps they should use words that better describe what they want.


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Let's do absolutely everything we can to recreate visible are, and s# in our own water supply.

That'll make us 'great' again.


This made me - well - reminded me of this situation, local.

Town wanted to re-route a State Road a mile west, to a county road. People on that county road, and truthfully, most people, didn't want that to happen.

People on the c.r. were concerned about their homes.....some would even have had their wells paved over.

The, at the time, village administrator was quoted as saying "Well water is terrible. I wouldn't drink it for anything." He also, years earlier, had been the manager at the waste water treatment plant.

A person that had that well water took 2 samples: 1 of his tap water, and 1 of the towns tap water. Had it tested by an independent lab.

Guess what? Lo and behold, the well water was more pure, and better in all rights, than the towns treated water.

This was 6 or so years ago. To this day, the town is sending out notices about every 6 months that the level of TTHM (trihalomethanes) in the water are too high, and could cause cancer (amongst other things)

The farmers on the fields DO put crap in the ground. Makes for better food, if done correctly.

Okay, back to the topic.

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Donald Trump’s Campaign Fires Off Cease-And-Desist Letter To CNN Over Poll That Shows Joe Biden With Wide Lead

Ted Johnson
June 10, 2020, 2:28 PM EDT

President Donald Trump’s re-election campaign sent a cease-and-desist letter to CNN demanding that it retract and apologize for a poll showing Joe Biden with a 14-point lead in the race for the White House.

“We stand by our poll,” a CNN spokesperson said.

Donald Trump Says He's Retained Pollster To Refute CNN, Other Networks That Show Joe Biden Lead

A Trump campaign spokesperson did not immediately return a request for comment, but in the letter, senior legal adviser Jenna Ellis and chief operating officer Michael Glassner write to CNN chief Jeff Zucker that the poll was “designed to mislead American voters through a biased questionnaire and skewed sampling.”

“Media polls such as these are designed to manufacture an anti-Trump narrative and misinform and mislead actual voters,” they wrote. “It’s a stunt and a phony poll to cause voter suppression, stifle momentum and enthusiasm for the President, and present a false view generally of the actual support across America for the President.”

Irked by the poll’s results, Trump announced Monday that he had retained pollster John McLaughlin to do an analysis of the poll.

In their letter, Ellis and Glassner wrote: “According to our independent assessment via the highly respected McLaughlin & Associates, ‘The CNN poll out today is another skewed anti-Trump poll of only 25% Republican. It’s a poll of 1,259 adults — not even registered voters, let alone likely voters. Also, it was done between June 2nd and 5th, before the great economic news from last Friday.’ Further, the questions and topics selected likely biased the poll further.”

Trump often has lashed out at polls as “fake,” including those conducted by Fox News. Other polls also show Trump falling behind Biden, some with a smaller but still significant gap. The RealClearPolitics national average of polls on Wednesday shows Biden with an 8.1-point lead.

The campaign requested that CNN retract the poll, which was conducted by SSRS, “by publishing a full, fair, and conspicuous retraction, apology, and clarification to correct its misleading conclusions.” They also claim that the poll is defamatory and misleading.

In a story on the Trump campaign letter, CNN.com noted that “while it’s accurate that 1,259 adults were reached on landlines or cell phones by a live interviewer for the survey, the 14-point margin by which Trump is trailing Biden came from a question posed only to 1,125 registered voters. It’s typical for polling to sample registered voters rather than likely ones at this stage of the race, as it’s difficult to project whether voters will participate in an election that is five months away.” The cable news network also noted that the 25% sample of Republicans is a percentage that is “consistent with several other major polls that use live telephone interviews, which provide the most reliable snapshot of the race.”

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/donald-trump-campaign-fires-off-182855820.html



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A good accounting, well-told.
Love the moral at the end:

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rofl

Nicely played. I've got my chuckle going...


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The aim of my post was to point out what the air, rivers and lakes looked like when I was young.

I was just getting into middle school when Nixon's executive order created the EPA. It was at that same time that environmental science was sounding the alarm that Lake Erie could be dead inside of 50 years. I'd swum in Lake Erie as a kid. The water was an opaque orange/greenish color. It looked nothing like the water I'd seen on 'Sea Hunt,' 'Flipper' or countless National Geographic specials. That announcement hit me, even as a 'tweenaged kid. I'd seen videos of the Cuyahoga aflame just a few years before, thinking: "water isn't supposed to burn..."

Since then, it's always been a concern/issue for me.

I remember riding in the back seat on My Pops' '63 Ford Falcon Futura to see family in DET... and how the air would visibly turn a sulfurous, sickly yellow color as we were crossing the Rouge River Bridge. I would just look out the window and stare at factory after factory, smokestack after smokestack. As close to the bridge as 100 ft, and stretching as far East as my young eyes could focus. I will never forget the color of the air. I will never forget the smell, but most importantly, I'll never forget how it felt like to breathe that air. I lived in a clean environment... riding through that section of DET nauseated me every time.

That was when I was a kid/young man.

2020:
*Our rivers don't catch fire any more.
*Industrial plants don't dump their slurry and effluent directly into the same Great Lakes that supply freshwater fish to our dinner tables.
*Our air is cleaner. The health benefits alone of breathing cleaner air 24/7/365 are inestimable.

I could go on with the list, but I know you can add to it yourself. I've read you for years. I know that you hunt deer almost as much for the 'being outside' part of it, as you do to feed your family. You love Nature. (I'm right about that, aren't I?) wink


We've learned.

We're smarter than we were, back in the 60's... when Frank's 'Rat Pack' toured the Vegas after hour haunts in limos that got 6 miles/gallon. Today's Rat Packs get 26 MPG.

All my best outdoor experiences have been backcountry joints. As far away from mechanized society as the trip will allow. I go where Man has minimal influence. It's a rush every time I smell pine and forest floor... and nothing else.

Here's my main point about how I'm sharing to this thread tonight: I watched my world get cleaner as I got older. I spent 5 years on the production side of the petroleum industry, and saw how volatile and toxic the products were. Dangerous as hel, too... 3 of my 5 years there, I was on the Fire Brigade, 2nd & 3rd shifts (yeah... in his early 20's, Clemmy was a bit of badass...).

I started driving up to DET in the mid 90's, when I started playing for Michigan Opera Theater/Detroit Opera House. It was the first time I'd crossed the Rouge River Bridge in almost 20 years.

The factories had disappeared. Totally disappeared. When I looked out my passenger window as I crossed that bridge, I saw empty plats/acre-sized concrete flats where a sea of brick & mortar badass workplaces once dominated the view.

Dawg, it was crazy. I could see the horizon with more clarity than I could see the plants 2-4 blocks away, back in the kid days. The first time I crossed that bridge and looked to my right (as I'd done so many times before, years ago), I was dumbfounded. The Marathon refinery is still up and running. They need to re-paint their butane sphere that still commemorated the Pistons' last championship.

I was a mid-30's-something seeing the changed landscape for the first time in half a lifetime. Trust me: the first reaction I had was this: "What have all those people done, as those plants closed up?"

That first bridge trip.... was a trip.

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All my best outdoor experiences have been backcountry experiences.

Topaz Lake is accessible only by foot. And you must take provisions and plan at least an overnight stay, even if you use the 'cheat access' from Baie Fine. You are rewarded with a snow-white quartzite rock formation, cascading into a volcano-shaped ring that is home to an azure blue basin. Choose your own cliff dive: 10, 20 30, 50 ft.




This place is beautiful. The water is crystal-clear, to a depth of 30-40 ft. Clarity to that depth in a North American ecosystem is unnatural.
It's crystal-clear because it can't really support aquatic vegetation. No veg/no fish.

This 'pristine' wilderness is 60 miles SW of Sudbury, Ontario- a major metal smelting center.

You will see bear, deer, all manner of small mammals, tons of songbirds, and even hear wolf calls from ridge to ridge... but you can still pull fish from only about 20% of the hundreds of lakes in the region.

Google page, linking Numerous citations regarding acid rain/ecological fallout


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For me, this has never been a Left/Right thing.
It's never been a REP/DEM thing.
It's always been a 'don't poison yourself' kinda thing.

Each of 45's ecological rollbacks look like rebukes of Obama policy, but they are actually rollbacks that threaten to take us back to a time before Tricky Dick established an agency that has helped tremendously, where breathing and swimming safely are concerned.


Just wanted to speak out in support of general cleanliness and common sense,

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This 'brick of a human brain' isn't smart enough to even know what a 'Juneteenth' even is.

This is a Stephen Miller move, all the way.
Stephen Miller... that

Folks who think this 'basement level of s#' is cool, should just skip the pretense, and simply begin dropping 'Pepe The Frog' memes all over Dawgtalkers. That way, they can out themselves as the 'basket-dwellers' they are (Don't bother- we already know who you be).

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The social landscape of America is changing.
And like all change, it comes fast, and without warning.

Ordinary people of good character are now standing up to repudiate this st00pitazz bs. The streets are teeming with folks who have simply had enough.

They outnumber the regressives- on a national scale.

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Nobody wants to "rid the nation of police protection". That's just another lie put out by the uninformed.


If getting rid of police is not want they want, perhaps they should use words that better describe what they want.


Perhaps they should. I actually agree with you. But it is their message to send, not mine.

As per usual we have a lot of people who look at it on its face and use that as a reason to look no further. I have seen you post for years and do not believe you are that shallow. I believe you will look beyond the catch phrase to see the actual message being sent.

At least I would hope so.


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Trump clearly doesn't want us knowing exactly how much of that money he funneled to himself and his family.


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Trump clearly doesn't want us knowing exactly how much of that money he funneled to himself and his family.


Pretty much.

Here's more on the subject.


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Brilliant strategy.

Obama released all of the information about which companies got money and which companies didn't... Then there were months of debates about "This company got $1M more than that company -- and they happen to have the 2nd cousin of the butler for the Undersecretary of Finance on their board"

Instead -- just give all the money to your friends -- then classify the info. One bad news cycle -- and everything is done.


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Total U.S. debt surges to $55.9 trillion amid big increases in corporate and government borrowing

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/11/total-us...-borrowing.html

Book it. The moment Biden wins is the moment the debt clock comes back on Fox News, and also the moment republicans start caring about the debt and deficit again.


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Book it. The moment Biden wins is the moment the debt clock comes back on Fox News, and also the moment republicans start caring about the debt and deficit again.


Are you running for the title of Captain Obvious?

I'll one up you. The Republicans and Fox News will come up with excuses for why it is increasing under the current administration.


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Will that be before or after republicans and Fox News claims the world doesn’t respect us anymore under Democratic leadership?


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I won't. However, the covid stimulus did play a part.

BUT, it's been going up every year for, well, more than decades. Drives me crazy, regardless of WHO, or what party, is in the oval office.

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Will that be before or after republicans and Fox News claims the world doesn’t respect us anymore under Democratic leadership?


Good question. I am going to say after, but that is just a guess.


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I won't. However, the covid stimulus did play a part.

BUT, it's been going up every year for, well, more than decades. Drives me crazy, regardless of WHO, or what party, is in the oval office.


I agree with you on this. It bugs the crap out of me. Every new President is going to have the all time high new increase based on interest alone.

I would like to see data on increased deficit numbers that do not include interest on already existing debt


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Ohio GOP state senator fired from ER doctor job after using racist language

CLEVELAND, Ohio – State Sen. Steve Huffman, a Dayton-area Republican, has been fired from his position as an emergency room doctor after using racist language to question whether people of color are disproportionately affected by the coronavirus because of poor hygiene.

During a Tuesday hearing on declaring racism a public health crisis, Huffman asked Angela Dawson, executive director of the Ohio Commission on Minority Health, if the “colored population” were more susceptible to coronavirus “because they do not wash their hands as well as other groups.” A statement from TeamHealth, a health professional contractor who employed Huffman as an emergency room physician, said Thursday that Huffman had been fired for his line of questioning during the hearing of the Senate Health Committee.

“Dr. Huffman’s comments are wholly inconsistent with our values and commitment to creating a tolerant and diverse workplace,” said McHenry Lee, a TeamHealth spokesman. “TeamHealth has terminated Dr. Huffman’s employment.”

The word “colored” is almost universally considered offensive. A long-held racist characterization of black people and other minorities as “dirty” has long been used by racists as an example of white superiority.

Huffman’s comments received immediate condemnation, especially as the country is currently engulfed in a debate over racial inequity. Ohio Senate President Larry Obhof and Huffman’s office did not respond to a request for comment.

Huffman said earlier Thursday he phrased the question in an “unintentionally awkward” way.

"I was trying to focus on why COVID-19 affects people of color at a higher rate since we really do not know all the reasons,” Huffman said.

The Ohio Legislative Black Caucus Foundation called on Huffman to resign Thursday afternoon.

Huffman, of Tipp City, was first elected to the Statehouse in 2014 as a member of the Ohio House of Representatives. He won election to the Ohio Senate’s 5th District in 2018, which includes all or parts of Miami, Montgomery, Preble and Darke counties.

https://www.cleveland.com/open/2020/06/o...IigY9_E0v52fPEw

[satire] "I wonder if'n it's them there colored people not a knowin' how to warsh their hands is why so many of em' are a gettin' the corona?"[/satire]

I actually grew up in Tipp City and knew this man. How he was ever elected is a mystery for the ages. His comments are exactly what I would have expected him to say decades ago.


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Man I am really getting tired of living in this state.

Between him, Gym Jordan, Portman, and the gop controlled legislature and all their crap, we really aren’t much of a swing state anymore.

Looks like we’re solidly red. And that’s sad.


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Man I am really getting tired of living in this state.

Between him, Gym Jordan, Portman, and the gop controlled legislature and all their crap, we really aren’t much of a swing state anymore.

Looks like we’re solidly red. And that’s sad.


In the State House, yes. Nationally, not necessarily.

There are some real lunatics on the legislative branch of Ohio, starting with Nino Vitale. I'd mention Candice Keller, but she was voted out in the primaries.

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And I don't get it, there used to be a lot of middle ground republicans in ohio, but today they are far and few between while the nutjobs are everywhere.

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Simple. Trump gave them a platform.

Candice Keller blamed the Dayton Massacre on gays.

Nino Vitale claimed that Bill Gates created the virus to control food distribution.

Larry Householder is a simpleton.

There definitely used to be quite a few reasonable republicans and democrats for that matter. Politics has gone off the rails.

And then you have this embarrassment...






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Did he preface his comments with an "I'm not racist but .... "


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j/c...

Of course.


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