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j/c...

Well, this won't help bridge the divide...

Trump is such a freaking moron. The guy makes me sick and he is only making things worse.

As far as the rest of the thread goes.........I'm out. Like Rish said, there is no real conversation. It's about belittling anyone who thinks differently and trying to paint false pictures of people who don't agree w/100 percent of some other's beliefs.

Oh, I've checked it out. It's priced about 3x what I could even hope to afford.

My 3-series is an E91, so it has an NA I6. Revvy 6-cylinder is fun.

j/c...

And now Brees responds directly to Trump...

Wow.

He learned.

Should be interesting to see the reaction here.

I’m confused. Are you telling me I need to kneel during the anthem? That is what I got from your response.

Nah.

I'm saying you should support these athletes and continue to educate yourself on why they do this.

You're a thinker here. You're not ignorant. I can tell you continually evaluate this very subject.

You're only ignorant when you go "nope, can't understand and I won't learn."

Oh Drew Brees, your ideology represents the very disconnect that brought us here.

“I think of my grandparents who served in WW2”

Hey Drew, what about the grandparents who served, and came back to persecution?

Your ideology is antiquated, so many people will relish when it does fall, globally. It’s coming soon.

Maybe if you would try and start an actual conversation about a topic rather than continue with your lecture series people would respond in kind.

j/c

So far this week Trump has lost the support of military leaders, Drew Brees did an about face, the NFL has abandoned his "NFL owners should fire the SOB's" thought process and the tide has finally started turning by those you never thought would have stood up to him.

If there were any question that he was standing on the wrong side of history, I think that is being laid to rest.

Did he? I'm skeptical. That was quite the 180.

Amazing what can happen with an open mind. I said it twice - I didn't believe Brees was the type to simply cow down to pressure and his reversal was based on new/renewed education, understanding and empathy. . . . I think you really are on really thin ice to suggest that Brees was brow beaten into retracting his statement when he didn't want to AND that he then sent that rocket across Trump's bow.

Despite what some have claimed - before conveniently exiting the conversation and answering any questions posed - Brees was not shouted out, his "White" opinion wasn't drowned out, he was not censored and neither was anyone that expressed a view on this topic (on either side) .... he expressed an opinion, got feedback and reassessed. It's called dialogue and communication. If he'd have kept his view - like others on here - I would have accepted that even if I don't agree with it.

Did you ever notice what a great leader of men so many claimed Brees to be? Until he changed his mind about this. Now suddenly that great leader turned into someone who kowtows to the whims of others?

Yeah, kind of strange the way that works according to some...

He was shamed into the obligatory apology... all is ok now.

And it's not just white people, anybody who disagrees with the culturally approved narrative is treated this way.

It's not difficult for me to believe that Brees heard some differing observations and changed his way of seeing things. If such is the case, he gets my respect.

It may come as a surprise to some, but that sort of thing actually happens sometimes.

Just a thought.

Perception may vary depending on mileage and preconceived notions.

Yet you love how trump fans the fuel of hate. Pfft trump supporters.

There is literally someone in my town approaching white people in parking lots and telling them to kneel and apologize.

He do that to me and he's getting a face full of pepper spray.

LOL....I'd tell them to kneel down to thank me for paying the way.

J/C

Can’t wait to watch all the MAGA haters get all triggered this season with all the kneeling for equality. Get your popcorn ready.

I'm aware, it has happened to me multiple times and I've been open about acknowledging it.

I really have no reason to doubt Drew Brees, he has always been a pretty stand-up guy... .but I must say though I am a little skeptical that it seems every time a celebrity says something deemed inappropriate or not inline with current mass thinking... they all seem to have the same awakening and it almost always takes between 24 and 48 hours to happen... so call me skeptical about a lot of it...

I wonder if you feel the same way about this guy?

NYPD lieutenant apologizes to colleagues for kneeling during George Floyd protest

The lieutenant told his colleagues he had trouble sleeping after he "made a horrible decision to give into a crowd of protesters demands and kneeled alongside several other officers."

A lieutenant with the New York Police Department who knelt alongside George Floyd protesters apologized for doing so in an email to his colleagues, writing, "The cop in me wants to kick my own a--."

In a June 3 email obtained by NBC New York, the officer, Lt. Robert Cattani, said his kneeling with protesters "goes against every principle and value that I stand for."

Cattani was among at least four officers who submitted to demonstrators' chants of "NYPD take a knee" during a May 31 protest in Lower Manhattan, according to the New York Post, which first reported the email.

The police lieutenant told his colleagues in the email that he had trouble sleeping after he "made a horrible decision to give into a crowd of protesters demands and kneeled alongside several other officers."

The symbolic pose gained prominence in 2016 after Colin Kaepernick, then quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers, began kneeling during the national anthem before games to protest racial inequality and police brutality against people of color.

In his email, Cattani said he knelt to appease protesters.

"The conditions prior to the decision to take a knee were very difficult as we were put center stage with the entire crowd chanting," he wrote.

“I know I made the wrong decision," he added. "We didn't know how the protesters would have reacted if we didn't and were attempting to reduce any extra violence."

He said he thought that by kneeling, maybe "one protester/rioter who saw it would later think twice about fighting or hurting a cop."

Cattani said he spent the first part of his career working to build a reputation as a good cop and that he "threw that all in the garbage" on May 31.

"I know that it was wrong and something I will be shamed and humiliated about for the rest of my life," he wrote.

Protesters across the country and around the world have called for greater police accountability since George Floyd, a 46-year-old African American man, died after a white Minneapolis police officer knelt on his neck for more than eight minutes on May 25.

The officer, Derek Chauvin, has been fired and charged with second-degree murder, third-degree murder and manslaughter. Three other officers involved in the arrest were also fired and face charges of aiding and abetting murder.

Cattani was not the only officer in New York City to take a knee with protesters. The city's top uniformed officer, Chief of Department Terence Monahan, joined hands with and knelt alongside protesters in Washington Square Park on June 1. He drew praise from Mayor Bill de Blasio, who tweeted later that day: "We're lucky to have people like Chief Monahan wearing the uniform. He believes in Neighborhood Policing with all his heart."

But some others, such as the city's public advocate, Jumaane Williams, have been critical of the gesture by people who have not been active in the racial justice movement.

In reference to recently introduced police reforms in New York, Williams said on "AM Joy" on MSNBC this week: "It should not have taken 8 or 9 days of unrest" on these issues we have been speaking about for such a long time. "All of the people who now find it easy to take a knee because of the unrest, many years ago were excoriating people like Colin Kaepernick."

Writer Roxane Gay tweeted on June 5: "I need cops and politicians and white people more broadly to stop kneeling. We don't need you to kneel. We need you to stand up for real, radical, sustained change."

NYPD Commissioner Dermot Shea meanwhile, in speaking directly to officers on Thursday, said they need to listen to public sentiment and understand why people are protesting, NBC New York reported.

“I’ve heard police officials this week talking about how could people feel this way," Shea said. "The quicker we realize that, the quicker we get to a solution."

Two NYPD officers have been suspended without pay for conduct during the Floyd protests. One of them, Vincent D'Andraia, was seen in a video shoving a woman to the ground on May 29 at a demonstration in Brooklyn. He was charged Tuesday with misdemeanor assault, criminal mischief, harassment and menacing.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nyp...f-sZLFdv8S37ERE

Of course that’s different. He has to go back to work with violent racists and he doesn’t want to get hurt.

Has a strong backbone, it seems. Stand by his actions, and also played the “I didn’t want more people getting hurt” card as best as he could.

j/c...

Doesn't natter how much he has helped the community over the years. He is a bad guy because he honors the flag.

He was smart enough to understand what's really going on instead of playing dumb. What a piece of trash he is to so many now.

Said no-one.

Somebody said it. Vers.

As the national anthem was played, the @nyliberty and @seattlestorm walked off the floor as part of the social justice initiative.

@Espn

Sorry, I will never be okay with this.

It's a topic I doubt we'll ever see unity over.

No need to apologize bro .. they can “frame” it any way they want .. its BS IMO and they are crappin on my flag ... problem is were not allowed to have opinions anymore unless of course ours is the exact same opinion as their’s then its OK for us to think for ourselves (kinda) ...

WHEN they say its for social justice then by god THAT IS WHAT WE ALL HAVE TO BELIEVE .... we can’t tell them how to protest but they can tell us how to think ... sounds good to me ... ...

Who is telling you how to think?

Antifa boogeyman. Deep state boogeymen. The Alt Left boogeymen. Definitely not trump boogeymen.

The only flag being crapped on these days is your stars and bars. Enjoy that trump supporters.