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And here is the LAPD shooting a rubber bullet at a homeless man in a wheelchair who wasn't even protesting...

https://preview.redd.it/dt0mybnnr1351.jp...63fcc7169292863

And this:

So in other words, we are clearly playing favorites.

But how can it be the Proud Boys? I thought it was Antifa inciting violence at the protests?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/unite...eFj2wQQ2fteeAT4

United States added to list of most dangerous countries for journalists for first time
At least 63 professional journalists were killed doing their jobs in 2018, a 15 percent increase over last year, Reporters Without Borders said.
Dec. 18, 2018, 8:56 PM EST / Updated Dec. 19, 2018, 10:04 AM EST
By Reuters

PARIS — The murder of the Saudi columnist Jamal Khashoggi — in a year when more than half of all journalists who were killed around the world were targeted deliberately — reflects a hatred of the media in many areas of society, a free-press advocacy group said Tuesday.

At least 63 professional journalists were killed doing their jobs in 2018, a 15 percent increase over last year, said the group, Reporters Without Borders. The number of deaths rises to 80 when all media workers and people classified as citizen journalists are included, it said in its annual report.

The world's five deadliest countries for journalists include three — India, Mexico and, for the first time, the United States — where journalists were killed in cold blood, even though those countries weren't at war or in conflict, the group said.

"The hatred of journalists that is voiced ... by unscrupulous politicians, religious leaders and businessmen has tragic consequences on the ground, and has been reflected in this disturbing increase in violations against journalists," Secretary-General Christophe Deloire said in a statement.



Khashoggi, a royal insider who became a critic of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and began writing for The Washington Post after moving to the United States last year, was killed inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, Turkey, in October.

His death sparked worldwide outrage. Saudi officials have rejected accusations that the crown prince ordered his death.

Reporters Without Borders said the three most dangerous countries for journalists to work in were Afghanistan, Syria and Mexico.

Meanwhile, the shooting deaths of five employees of the Capital Gazette newspaper in Annapolis, Maryland, in June propelled the United States into the ranks of the most dangerous countries for the first time.
Reporters Without Borders said 348 journalists were being detained worldwide, compared with 326 at this time in 2017. China, Turkey, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Egypt hold more than half of the world's imprisoned journalists, it said.

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Damn yinzers

It really seems like the trend with these police departments is that the most problematic ones are the big city ones. The NYPD, Chicago PD, LAPD, Buffalo PD, and a few others have shown quite an ugly side over the last week.

You are seeing smaller departments stand in solidarity with their communities. Peaceful rallies with no violence or destruction.

My wife's work put out a post condemning murders due to awful cops, and stood in support with their community. Every single reply to the post was a positive one, many of them with personal stories. It is also a very diverse community. They are the absolute model of how to run a department. I am very proud to be married to someone who is a part of that, and I am proud to have met all the men and women in there who would not hesitate to run toward trouble in any situation.

Minneapolis will now have quite a few eyes on it as they will be entirely restructuring their police department. The school system and parks division have cut ties. The message was definitely sent. I don't know what they are going to do, but they will be the test subject for other departments down the line.

I've seen some hilariously bad articles this week detailing how we don't really need police, because people steal "only because they can't afford things". I'm sorry, but those takes are laughable, and are made by people not living in reality. I couldn't even get through reading the whole thing, because I was convinced it came from The Onion.

Things got really stressful this week. The riots and violence, and also protests were moving westbound on Roosevelt road out of Chicago, my wife's work is a town or two over from the city limits, right on Roosevelt. I was worried that station would become a target for violence. Seems like it stopped short of just a few miles. I have a police scanner and was glued to it the entire night.

I think Colin Kaepernick will end up becoming a hero out of this, and not just to the black community, but to the a much wider span of people. The narrative has been that nobody listened to him back then, so that's why this is happening now, I believe he helped things happen now, because of what he did back then. He knew when he knelt that it wasn't going to just end murders of black people by police right there, but it got a snowball effect.

I believe COVID probably helped as well. 40 million out of jobs. People cooped up for months. It was a perfect storm of events that lead to what we saw over the last week.

I stay out of politics, I am not a Trump guy, but I am not also someone who doesn't listen, and just takes every single thing he has as trash. I thougth that move the other day of clearing people out, so you could go get a stupid photo-op was pretty embarrassing. Talk about being out of touch with the moment. You put protesters and police in a bad spot there. It was just incredibly stupid and selfish. I don't know if I can put up with 4 more years of him, and 4 more years of people whining about him. Joe Biden is scum too. What a sad country this has become. We haven't had good presidential candidate in years.

I applaud the actual protesters for what they have done, how consistent they have been, and how they keep coming back. I hope this all can turn into some good.

A lot of 'posters' were convinced ANTIFA was behind all the rioting... I was basically treated like I was nuts for saying otherwise. Not ANTIFA'S MO. Well, where are these posters now? Should we add white supremacists extremists to the terrorist list?

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What a headline....

Some people would rather portray 1000 people out of 20,000 as not being largely peaceful. We see it on here all the time. Ignoring that the majority are peaceful while accentuating the violence.

It helps them to distract away from what has been going on in this country for so very long.

They need to learn to ride their horses better! Less injuries!

Not much one can do if a horse gets spooked. I'm not sure why police forces still use them. Especially around large groups of yelling people.

One could say the same things about police officers. Just saying.

If you want to get rid of the bad, do it on both sides. Don't sweep it aside because most are okay. That's kind of how we keep ending up here.

I keep forgetting that we don't hold the police to a higher standard. That if they conduct themselves the same as a criminal on the street we should make some type of equivalency. I thought there was something about protect and serve that created a different standard. My bad.

I think we need to address the bad actors wherever they are - but 100% the police who are given tremendous powers should absolutely be held to a higher standard. They should be 100% transparent and accountable... You know, the old adage that with great power comes great responsibility.

I noticed on several headlines the caption or tag "George Floyd Looters" .... which is total bull crap and the 'right leaning' media trying to associate the protesters to the violence.... when in fact the looters really have nothing to do with the peaceful protesters. They are separate entities and issues.

How ironic.

Here's the rub. Most everyone has called out and denounced the looters. Even most of those doing the actual protesting have done so. Yet those in opposition to bringing the attention to the BLM movement will focus on the violence and try and lump both groups together.

We certainly do need to address both. But we shouldn't have s situation where one race of people have to worry about every interaction with law enforcement. It's not that all cops are bad. They certainly are not. But when one race of people in our society going out is like rolling the dice on who they may interact with, something is very wrong here.

Maybe I'm too old school. Maybe I have unrealistic expectations. But I expect law enforcement to set an example. I expect their main responsibility is to protect and serve. I expect all races to be treated equally by authority. And if that's not what I'm seeing, I'll speak out about it.

I understand that's really all you have left at this juncture. You certainly avoid the actual issue at hand with diversionary tactics.

Talking out of both sides of your mouth must have been a difficult skill to master. Kudos to you.

Oh, "media".

Awe. I see your #snowflake gene has been triggered.

Ah yes, the patented snowflake and triggered Pitdawg lines when there is nothing in the gas tank but fumes.. To use you own quote...

Awe... You really don't have anything worth saying do you? Just keep railing away. It's what you do best. At least you do something well.

Well you know - if your point is that a single poster on Twitter is now "The Media" .... you've lost.

Never heard of Robert Littal - googled him and the only thing I see is his Twitter page. . . . He's "the media" . . . . he's your bogey man? One moron spreading lies? I am SURE there aren't morons on the other side of the coin posting lies about schtick !!!

From the outside looking in - looks like a personal spat with a poster is clouding your posting. No-one is saying the looters aren't culpable. People including me are saying that more scrutiny should be placed on the Police because they are tasked with 'protect and serve' ..... and people, including me, are saying it is totally wrong to paint the peaceful protesters with the same brush as the looters. . . .

Trying to paint the peaceful protesters who are moved to outrage over the murder of another black man at the hands of the police, is flat wrong. Trying to frame the debate to make BLM the evil ones after the police murdered Floyd is really exactly part of the root cause of the frustrations. It's exactly at the heart of the video OCD posted about White Fragility.

The only real question here is were you surprised by his post? After the past week or more I would have expected no less. Certainly not more but no less.

I haven't been watching this thread too much - and I don't remember a lot of who posts what in PFF or here. I tend to remember only the really big Trump supporters in PP.

I will add that I have seen "News" articles on Fox where they pick a few looney left Twitter comments to some topic and then make a news article out of it.... totally "fake news". You can find an idiot to quote with a crazy opinion about anything. Does not make it news.

Let's just say the post you commented on has been an ongoing theme for him. You know, paint the biggest distraction possible to detract from the actual issue.

What?

Most horses don't do that. We need more mounted patrol. Nothing moves a crowd like a line of Mounties, with horses gating towards a crowd.


Nobody wants to get foot stomped by a horse.

Horses used by the mounted police are specially trained to deal with crowds and city environments and such. There is no such thing as a completely bombproof horse but they are close.

So far it's worked quite well on people exercising their rights to peaceful protest.

You just described 98% of the posters on dawgtalkers.

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Sorry, man. You missed the intent entirely. And yes, there are crack pots on both sides, no doubt. That's the entire problem with the media overall.

If you think so. We are just in different places.

I fully hope the cops involved get time in prison, especially the cop who choked the life out of George. That was horrible. I would expect him to get 30 years in prison. Maybe get out after 20 years. The others at least something for not doing anything. How do you sit there and think that is OK?


As for you, how do you think it is OK for people to loot and burn down a city? Answer that. Those people had nothing to do with this! The citizens of the community had nothing to do with this!

You should be ashamed, Luke. I have considered you a friend a long time. This whole conversation saddens me.

I am going to ignore your comment and consider it a comment out of frustration, but lawlessness needs to be stopped no matter the motivation .

If you don't agree, well....you are one of them.

The problem is your peaceful protests usually end up with burning buildings and bricks being thrown.

What about that?

I saw the protestors try to keep themselves in check. When things heated up between them and police they would start chanting "Peaceful protest! Peaceful protest!"

All about that.

But it is the 5% of you that ruin it for all of you. Don't point a finger at me. You are a PART OF "THEM" AND EXCUSING THEIR ACTIONS. Point fingers at them.

Face it, their actions are your actions. You own it.