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Ohio's close to averaging 1,000 new cases a day.

We ain't out of the woods yet, folks.

Stay home, wear a mask if you go out, and continue to social distance.

After careful consideration, my family and I decided it'd be best for us to remain in Alaska and attend my sister's wedding via FaceTime/Skype.

Our school district has very tight policies for those who travel out of state, and we'd end up missing a large chunk of work if we would leave in September.

This sucks a bit, but I'm glad my family understands. Hopefully we get the vaccine working and we can celebrate at her reception next summer.

Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but the Ohio numbers are almost entirely being driven by downtown Cincy, downtown Columbus, and Cuyahoga county. I'm a couple counties north of downtown Cinci... so while I'm not acting like I'm in the clear, I'm also not freaking out.

The other problem is that Alaska is starting to pick up.

The fisheries are starting to open up and this means more imported cases that can cause further spread.

We're at 40 cases a day, but things can spread quick here. The history of pandemics in this state is a dark tale.

We could potentially travel in September and be okay at the beginning, but then Ohio might go bad and Alaska could shut off Ohio...or vice versa.

Too many moving parts

It does suck, but I think you are making the wise choice.

j/c...

Someone is plotting the publicly available Ohio data. We're getting back to when things were at their worst in Ohio and it looks like we're about to surge over the top.

Apparently Ohio has stopped doing as much data reporting?

We need Dr. Acton back in her previous position.

Stay home and wear a mask if you go out.

It really bothers me that Dr. Acton was forced out. Antisemitism. No one gives a damn about folks like her, though.

I live in SC now and I was bragging about her and Dewine and the job they were doing compared to the jerk who is our governor in SC.

Dangers of Herd Immunity: Asymptomatic People Can Still Develop Lung Damage

The article breaks down the statistics further. It's based off an actual scientific study.

It seems a fair amount of people's lungs do fully recover after two months, but it doesn't seem guaranteed

Stay home and wear a mask if you go out.

Did you happen to look at the blue line, the red line, and the yellow line? In relation to the black line, the line that get's all the press?

Confirmed cases don't mean much to me. Hospitilisations and deaths mean a lot more to me.

You know the CDC said cases are probably 10 times higher than reported, right? Confirmed cases don't mean much if the person isn't sick.

They might mean more if it was one of your family members.

Have you read how even those who have mild cases are showing serious lung damage, and this lung damage may or may not be repairable?

Yes, and no. We're all going to die. I only know of 1 person that I knew personally, that said she was ready.

But, the bottom line is, while confirmed cases are going up due to more testing, hospitilazations and deaths are not.

I said before (I think) that I have a nephew and his wife that are quarantined because they had direct contact with someone that tested positive. A man I knew, from being in the same business as he was, is intubated in Ft. Wayne, and his wife has the virus as well. She's fine, and was only tested because her husband had it.

So, yes, and no.

Yes, I have.

Then you should understand why "well, at least hospitalizations aren't up in Ohio" isn't a reason to fully celebrate.

This bug is dangerous even if you don't end up in a hospital.

Stay home and wear a mask if you go out.

Dewine refutes your statement.

Fairly certain I wasn't "celebrating", I was stating a current fact. Deal with it.

Once again, you are talking about people testing positive. Test more, more will test positive, period.

As I've stated countless times, the cdc has said there are probably 10 times more people that have it than are shown now. The only hard numbers we have are deaths, and hospitalizations, and those haven't moved much at all.

Texas still having huge issues with testing

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/27/coronavirus-testing-texas/

Record spikes in U.S. coronavirus cases push up hospitalization rates in 16 states

The U.S. reported more than 34,400 coronavirus cases on Wednesday, according to a CNBC analysis of Johns Hopkins University data, after health officials in California, Florida and Texas all reported record-high single-day spikes.

As of Wednesday, the nation’s seven-day average of daily new Covid-19 cases was 31,172. This number has increased more than 34% compared with a week ago, according to the analysis of Johns Hopkins data. Cases are growing by 5% or more in 31 states across the U.S., including Arizona, Florida, Texas and California.

Twelve states hit record highs in daily new cases on Wednesday based on their seven-day average, the analysis found. They include Arizona, Arkansas, California and Florida. Arizona also hit a record high in average daily new deaths with a seven-day average of nearly 31 new lives lost.

Coronavirus hospitalizations, like new cases and deaths, are an important measure of the outbreak as it helps health officials gauge how severe it may be.

Hospitalizations from Covid-19 are also rising in 16 states as of Wednesday, according to a CNBC analysis of data compiled by the Covid Tracking Project.

Some states are hitting new highs every week as the number of cases continues to rise at an alarming rate. While some of these surges can be attributed to increases in testing, hospitalizations from Covid-19 have also grown substantially.

The California Department of Public Health reported its second straight record jump in coronavirus cases on Wednesday, adding 7,149 new cases. The previous highest spike in daily new cases was 5,019, reported on Tuesday by the state’s department of health.

“We cannot continue to do what we have done over the last number of weeks. Many of us understandably developed a little cabin fever, some I would argue developed a little amnesia, others have frankly taken down their guard,” California Gov. Gavin Newsom said at a press briefing Wednesday.

As of June 24, the state is seeing a seven-day average of nearly 4,732 daily new cases, according to Johns Hopkins data. This number has increased by more than 43% compared with a week ago.

About 4,814 people are hospitalized in California based on a seven-day moving average, which is almost a 9% increase compared with a week ago, according to Covid Tracking Project data.

While Newsom said the state administered a record number of tests, nearly 96,000 in the last 24 hours, the positivity rate of these tests has slightly increased in the last two weeks, sitting at 5.1% on a 14-day average.

Florida health officials also reported another record single-day surge in coronavirus cases on Wednesday. The state’s Department of Health added 5,508 new cases, bringing the total to 109,014. The previous record single-day jump in new cases was 4,094 reported on Saturday by the state.

As of Wednesday, Florida is seeing a seven-day average of 3,756 new cases, which is about a 71% increase compared with a week ago, according to Johns Hopkins.

In addition to the rise in cases, the percentage of positive test results is also growing, indicating that the surge is not due to ramped-up testing. The state’s health department reported that 15.91% of all tests came back positive Wednesday, up from 10.82% the day before.

While Florida has been reporting an increase in the number of confirmed Covid-19 cases for the past few weeks, Gov. Ron DeSantis said last week that the state would not reimplement more restrictions to mitigate the spread of the virus. However, on Thursday he said the state had no plans to ease additional restrictions.

On Wednesday, Texas health officials said they added 5,551 new cases, setting a new record single-day increase in coronavirus cases. The previous highest spike in daily new cases was 5,489 reported on Tuesday by the state’s health department.

Texas is averaging 4,347 new cases per day over the past seven days, which is about an 80% increase since one week ago, according to data from Johns Hopkins.

In an interview with TV station KBTX in San Antonio on Tuesday, Gov. Greg Abbott urged residents to wear a mask and practice social distancing to prevent infection.

“The hospitalization rate is at an all-time high. Coronavirus is spreading in Brazos County and across the entire state of Texas, which is exactly why action is being taken,” he said. “The safest place for you is at your home.”

Then, on Thursday, Abbott paused the state’s reopening plans and ordered hospital officials in four hard-hit counties to halt elective surgeries.

There are 3,563 people hospitalized in Texas based on a seven-day moving average, which is nearly a 53% increase compared with a week ago, according

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/25/record-s...-16-states.html

Coming soon to a community near you. Just keep watching the statistics for show times near you. I mean we all gotta die some time, right?

I noticed on the GA covid county map that they have been changing the values of the colors in the legend. They have been raising them so the counties dont seem to be getting worse colors. Talk about moving the goalposts to fool people.

j/c...

That's another important factor in response to those trying to use the excuse, "Yeah, but we're testing more, so."

The percentage of those tested being positive. It shows that cases are going up on a per capita tested basis and not that it's in response to more testing as a whole.

In the last 7 day snapshot, Florida testing percentage was above 13 and Arizona was above 23%. That’s really high

j/c

Tennessee reported most new cases, deaths this week since the pandemic began

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/tennes...MJFkPW87pke7lVw

Stay home and wear a mask.

Why would you wear a mask at home?

You don’t even want to share the same house with those people.

The deaths are constantly going up. We are almost to 130,000 now. With the 2nd wave in full force in much of the South, it will continue to go up. Hospital ICUs in Dallas and Houston, as well as other major cities, are at or near capacity. Last week we had a record number of new cases nationwide. The curve has become unflattened and what we feared in March is hitting right now. People became complacent and everything was opened too soon with no plan from the madman in the White House. What was needed was massive testing and BACKTRACING systems in place and THEN to slowly open back up. So when a hot spot presented it could be dealt with quickly and efficiently. Now? The plan in Washington is to pretend there is no problem. The ostrich plan. More Americans have died of Covid than died in the first world war. I have no plans to break quarantine until next year when hopefully a vaccine is ready. I know a lot of people don't have that ability and I feel so bad that so many have to be exposed. A friend of mine in Norway caught it and Covid is terrible. She was lucky and is mostly over it now but it took a LONG time to recover with many setbacks along the way.

You had me........until you started using the city hospitals as an example.

I do not know, and I'm sure you are much smarter than me, but, unlike NY did, shipping people to nursing homes, .............well, let me put it this way: Around here, IF you are sick enough to seek medical attention, they check you, then if you're positive, they send you to toledo. Hey, I was just at our local hospital earlier this week. No cars....well, 4.

In. N.E. Indiana, same thing. Positive, and sick? To Fort Wayne you go. The "hospitals are over run" is a misnomer, as in "a few central hospitals" are getting full.

Of course deaths are constantly going up. The virus is still out there, and, get this: short of a proven vaccine, people will continue to get infected.

Mad man in the whitehouse? I was not aware governors were not allowed to make decisions for their states. I missed that. My bad.

I am glad you are fortunate enough to shelter at home until next year. Kudo's to you.

Yep.

We have to open up, but we have to remain smart. Wear masks, social distance.



maybe we are now more aware and can manage it a bit better, but it is still here. Just because we have opened back up to a degree, it doesn't mean the crud isn't still here.

I'm curious how many of these cases can be traced back to the protests?

That would be valuable information in trying to determine if the spike is through natural spread and looser restrictions or an more of an anomaly from the large gatherings.

j/c:

Daily Updates of Totals by Week and State

Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm#divWeekTable

I'm betting that trace work won't be done, lol

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/black-lives-matter-protests-are-not-fueling-coronavirus-outbreaks-2020-6%3famp

Don't blame Black Lives Matter protests for the spike in coronavirus cases across the US

“In major cities including New York, Philadelphia, Seattle, Washington, DC, and Chicago, where numerous protests have taken place in recent weeks, numbers of new coronavirus cases are actually declining, despite widespread testing. Coronavirus cases are also trending downward in Minnesota, the state where Floyd was killed, and where the protests started.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/protests-black-lives-matter-covid19-coronavirus-1512501%3famp=1

'No Evidence' Black Lives Matter Protests Caused COVID-19 Spike: Study

“A study using data from Black Lives Matters protests across 315 of America's largest cities found "no evidence" in the following two and a half weeks that they caused a spike in the number of new COVID-19 cases.”

https://www.kqed.org/science/1966378/no-...sts-experts-say

No Coronavirus Spike From Black Lives Matter Protests in Bay Area, Experts Say

“We find no evidence that net COVID-19 case growth differentially rose following the onset of Black Lives Matter protests, and even modest evidence of a small longer-run case growth decline.'National Bureau of Economic Research working paper.”

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Being outside and wearing masks is known to be generally ‘safe’. The BLM protesters aren’t indoors at political rallies railing against mask wearing.

j/c:

CDC adds nausea, diarrhea and congestion to list of common coronavirus symptoms:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic...t.html#comments

P.S. My fav comment: "So basically everything...Just to be sure."

I hate when people update things as they gain more information!