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Ya cause Biden will unite us ...  Voting for an empty vessel who has over 40 years in creating this mess we now call a country ... yup ... that sounds like a great solution in stupid is as stupid does land ...
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Ya cause Biden will unite us ...  Voting for an empty vessel who has over 40 years in creating this mess we now call a country ... yup ... that sounds like a great solution in stupid is as stupid does land ... didnt you vote for a failed businessman who claimed the first black president was a foreign born muslim and that he knew more about ISIS than the generals? you dont have much room to talk about something being stupid....
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Ya cause Biden will unite us ...  Voting for an empty vessel who has over 40 years in creating this mess we now call a country ... yup ... that sounds like a great solution in stupid is as stupid does land ... didnt you vote for a failed businessman who claimed the first black president was a foreign born muslim and that he knew more about ISIS than the generals? you dont have much room to talk about something being stupid.... No ... i voted for an extremely successful business man who got rid of ISIS toot sweet after he got elected with the help of the generals ... he’s also done more for minorities in 3 years than your empty vessel did in almost 50 years, yet the sheep will vote for the empty vessel anyway ...
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These generals? Generals Denounce Trump’s Protest Crackdown Plan U.S. President Donald Trump wants a military response to street protests, but his chief military advisor thinks otherwise. As Trump Threatens Military Force, Generals Push Back As protests across the United States enter their tenth day, senior U.S. military personnel have been lining up to voice their opposition to a Trump administration that has signaled its eagerness to unleash military force to put down the demonstrations. U.S. President Donald Trump hinted on Monday that he may invoke the Insurrection Act, a two-century old law that would allow active duty military personnel to support law enforcement. It was last used in 1992 to quell riots in California in the aftermath of Rodney King’s beating by Los Angeles police. He has been egged on by Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas, who published an op-ed in the New York Times online Wednesday entitled “Send In The Troops.” The piece prompted ridicule online and a rebuke from Times journalists who said the piece endangered the newspaper’s black workers. Will the top brass force Trump to back down? Mark Milley, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the most senior military advisor to Trump, issued a rare memo to the country’s armed services reminding them of their duties as well as the rights of their fellow citizens to free assembly. “We all committed our lives to the idea that is America—we will stay true to that oath and the American people,” Milley wrote in the handwritten portion of the memo. Writing in Foreign Policy, John Allen, a retired U.S. Marine Corps four-star general and current president of the Brookings Institution also criticized calls for militarization. “Right now, the last thing the country needs—and, frankly, the U.S. military needs—is the appearance of U.S. soldiers carrying out the president’s intent by descending on American citizens. This could wreck the high regard Americans have for their military, and much more,” he wrote. He has been joined by Trump’s previous Secretary of Defense James Mattis who issued a statement denouncing the president. “Instructions given by the military departments to our troops before the Normandy invasion reminded soldiers that ‘The Nazi slogan for destroying us … was “Divide and Conquer.” Our American answer is “In Union there is Strength.”’ We must summon that unity to surmount this crisis—confident that we are better than our politics.” Esper on the defensive. As Foreign Policy’s Jack Detsch reports, current U.S. Secretary of Defense Mark Esper has also moved to put space between himself and the president following Trump’s hinting at invoking the Insurrection Act as well as Monday’s controversial church photo op. “The option to use active-duty forces in a law enforcement role should only be used as a matter of last resort and only in the most urgent and dire of situations. We are not in one of those situations now. I do not support invoking the Insurrection Act now,” Esper said at a news conference. The pushback from Esper has led to speculation that he may soon be out of a job, something White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany did not dismiss. “As of right now, Secretary Esper is still Secretary Esper and should the president lose faith, we will all learn about that in the future,” she said. Is it all too much TV? Trump is known as an avid television viewer, especially of Fox News, and that could be driving his thinking. An analysis by Philip Bump of the Washington Post showed that Fox News and Fox Business has been mentioning rioting or rioters six times as much as CNN has over the past week, even as protests have been largely peaceful. https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/06/04/generals-denounce-trump-plan-mattis-milley-allen-esper/This "successful businessman"? Donald Trump’s 13 Biggest Business Failures https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/po...failures-59556/You were duped.
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Ya cause Biden will unite us ...  Voting for an empty vessel who has over 40 years in creating this mess we now call a country ... yup ... that sounds like a great solution in stupid is as stupid does land ... I'm not a Biden fan but electing him would give the appearance of better unity... primarily because the media would back off of it's rampage and a lot of people would calm down simply for the fact that Trump was gone even though nothing of substance had really changed. That said, JMHO.. I wish the right would add some substance to the MAGA statement... It's very ambiguous and doesn't really mean anything, which is why the left interprets it to mean "Go back to when racism and sexism were ok"... the right interprets it as "Go back to apple pie and kids playing wiffle ball in the yard." I would like them to define it more like this: "Let’s re-embrace those values that made everybody better off back in the ’50s, and ’60s, and ’70s, except this time, let’s do it in a way that genuinely includes everybody" Has a much better ring to it while still sounding distinctly conservative.
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While defining the message as you have described would be more successful and leave less questions about its intent, it wouldn't fit on a hat or a T-shirt.
Politics is more about catch phrases than substance. And no, it's not isolated to one party.
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Politics is more about catch phrases than substance. And no, it's not isolated to one party. Quoted for emphasis. And what a sad reflection of our population is that ... we can't pay attention long enough to hold people accountable or answer real/challenging questions. Always so easily distracted by the bright shiny object.
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While defining the message as you have described would be more successful and leave less questions about its intent, it wouldn't fit on a hat or a T-shirt. I get that you can't put the whole thing on a bumper sticker but you can at least put it in print and use it in speeches to help define what people MEAN when they use the shortened MAGA.. Politics is more about catch phrases than substance. And no, it's not isolated to one party. I'll go a step farther.. having caught bits and pieces of the Barr hearing yesterday and looking at many other examples of congress.. they aren't really a legislative body any more, they are more of a political performance theater group... everything is about the show, it's about the optics of how things look, it's about making sure if something GOOD could get done don't do it until your side can claim the credit, it's about procedural maneuvers rather than ideas, debate and voting, it's about gotcha moments, it's about getting re-elected.. almost none of it is really about advancing the interests of the American people.
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For the most part we certainly agree.
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I'll go a step farther.. having caught bits and pieces of the Barr hearing yesterday and looking at many other examples of congress.. they aren't really a legislative body any more, they are more of a political performance theater group... everything is about the show, it's about the optics of how things look, it's about making sure if something GOOD could get done don't do it until your side can claim the credit, it's about procedural maneuvers rather than ideas, debate and voting, it's about gotcha moments, it's about getting re-elected.. almost none of it is really about advancing the interests of the American people. So true. I watched most of it. Most of what was presented/said to Barr had nothing to do with the "reason" why he was brought before them (on either side). Obviously, this isn't the first time this has happened. Hollywood needs to take notice on all of this great drama and acting.
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I'll go a step farther.. having caught bits and pieces of the Barr hearing yesterday and looking at many other examples of congress.. they aren't really a legislative body any more, they are more of a political performance theater group... everything is about the show, it's about the optics of how things look, it's about making sure if something GOOD could get done don't do it until your side can claim the credit, it's about procedural maneuvers rather than ideas, debate and voting, it's about gotcha moments, it's about getting re-elected.. almost none of it is really about advancing the interests of the American people.
This is particularly well said... 
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I'll go a step farther.. having caught bits and pieces of the Barr hearing yesterday and looking at many other examples of congress.. they aren't really a legislative body any more, they are more of a political performance theater group... everything is about the show, it's about the optics of how things look, it's about making sure if something GOOD could get done don't do it until your side can claim the credit, it's about procedural maneuvers rather than ideas, debate and voting, it's about gotcha moments, it's about getting re-elected.. almost none of it is really about advancing the interests of the American people.
This is particularly well said... True it was .. except the main thing being gazed over is the fact that Barr ordered trumps storm troopers to violently attack peaceful protesters in Franklin Park. Goes directly against our constitution and he’s not being held responsible by trump or his supporters. Hiding their crimes, claiming they are the party of law and order....pfffft
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I'll go a step farther.. having caught bits and pieces of the Barr hearing yesterday and looking at many other examples of congress.. they aren't really a legislative body any more, they are more of a political performance theater group... everything is about the show, it's about the optics of how things look, it's about making sure if something GOOD could get done don't do it until your side can claim the credit, it's about procedural maneuvers rather than ideas, debate and voting, it's about gotcha moments, it's about getting re-elected.. almost none of it is really about advancing the interests of the American people.
This is particularly well said... I agree for the most part - I did read an exchange where Barr was asked about Trump accepting foreign aid and interference int he election ... and there was a large degree of waffle and "it depends" before finally saying that accepting foreign aid is inappropriate. I find that (like many things regards Barr) to be very concerning, it should be a simple answer.
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One thing you can be sure of, focusing on the circus part of his testimony is a great way to deflect away from the part of it that actually had substance.
I call that the Jim Jordan Special.
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Ya cause Biden will unite us ...  Voting for an empty vessel who has over 40 years in creating this mess we now call a country ... yup ... that sounds like a great solution in stupid is as stupid does land ... I'm not a Biden fan but electing him would give the appearance of better unity... primarily because the media would back off of it's rampage and a lot of people would calm down simply for the fact that Trump was gone even though nothing of substance had really changed. That said, JMHO.. I wish the right would add some substance to the MAGA statement... It's very ambiguous and doesn't really mean anything, which is why the left interprets it to mean "Go back to when racism and sexism were ok"... the right interprets it as "Go back to apple pie and kids playing wiffle ball in the yard." I would like them to define it more like this: "Let’s re-embrace those values that made everybody better off back in the ’50s, and ’60s, and ’70s, except this time, let’s do it in a way that genuinely includes everybody" Has a much better ring to it while still sounding distinctly conservative. I see MAGA as being a page from Pres Obama's playbook. "Hope and Change" was just as vague and ill defined as "Make America Great Again". The genius in both is that they didn't have to define what it meant... by making it lofty and open ended, they let the people define it for themselves. I think by doing that it gave people a stronger sense of participation and ownership in something much larger and important than themselves.
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Re-read the paragraph after your first bolded portion. THAT is the crux of BLM.
That speech is amazing/ btw. Back to the OP and first few comments about Black/White and BLM.... I saw this today while reading a motor racing article about Formula 1 on the BBC. Explaining BLMFor all the anti-BLM posters on here who get offended at the thought/presumption that BLM believe that Black lives are more important than others .... The article it was in was also interesting regards how in the UK, the black driver raising awareness is getting kudos for his efforts. The BLM support at soccer games and sporting events has been constant in the UK (and Europe largely) ever since the death of George Floyd and subsequent protests. I wish it was so universally embraced here. I know the violence and rioting has deflected attention away for some, I just wish we could treat them as different topics - https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/53640425
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j/c: I think that it might be wise for folks to understand the differences between the phrase Black Lives Matter an the Black Lives Matter political organization. I think people might want to go to the actual BLM site and read their list of demands. Also, various chapters of BLM are establishing their own set of demands. It might be wise to investigate this before the election in November. This is especially true for those of us who work and will be heavily taxed should their demands be implemented. Here is one person's commentary on some of their demands.
Explainer: What does ‘Black Lives Matter’ believe? by Rev. Ben Johnson • June 18, 2020 Thanks almost entirely to the killing of George Floyd, Black Lives Matter’s approval rating has more than doubled from where it stood four years ago, surging from 27% in 2016 to 57% today. While the slogan wins public support, the racially tinged socialism espoused by the organization Black Lives Matter should concern everyone who cherishes freedom. BLM proudly proclaims its belief that all black Americans should receive a guaranteed minimum income and “free” healthcare, schooling, food, real estate, gender reassignment surgery, and abortion; bring an “an end to all jails” as we know them; disrupt the traditional family; demand reparations on behalf of foreign nations; and form a “global liberation movement” that will “overturn US imperialism [and] capitalism.” Americans could be excused for not knowing that BLM is a political organization with an agenda no less comprehensive than reshaping the entire world. The media have not reported its aims — at least, not in context of the recent riots. In the public imagination, Black Lives Matter is nothing more than a ubiquitous black square on social media platforms. Americans rightly outraged by incidents like the indefensible killing of George Floyd by a police officer with a long history of complaints adopted the slogan to demand proper treatment under the law — one of cornerstones of Western civilization. They often protest to this end and, as long as those protests are peaceful, they are exercising the first freedom enshrined in the Bill of Rights. However, they have no inkling that "Black Lives Matter" is not just a maxim or a graphic to be posted online. It is a radical pressure group that embraces a vista of controversial, extremist positions. Those who march under its banner are unwittingly putting themselves in a position to be identified by BLM's activists as endorsing these beliefs. BLM activists have made no secret of their views. “When we started Black Lives Matter, it wasn’t solely about police brutality and extrajudicial killing,” one of BLM’s three co-founders, Opal Tometi, confessed to The New Yorker. The issue was just “a spark point” to begin “calling for the defunding of police, a moratorium on rent, a moratorium on mortgages and utilities” and issuing “demands” relating to “housing and education and health-care systems.” To present their “demands” more completely, the Black Lives Matter Network joined dozens of like-minded groups to found the Movement for Black Lives, sit on its “united front,” and adopt its policy platform. “[T]he U.S. is a country that does not support, protect or preserve [b]lack life,” the M4BL original statement says. “And so we seek not reform but transformation.” While the planks often amount to little more than platitudes, replete with grammatical errors, the platform offers a clear demand for socialism under the cover of racial reconciliation. The steps the organizations propose include: Reparations through racial socialism: The M4BL platform, which BLM endorses, states, “We demand reparations for past and continuing harms,” including both “corporate and government reparations” for a litany of ills that include “food apartheid” and “racialized capitalism.” Government reparations will take “the form” of “a guaranteed minimum livable income for all Black people.” M4BL/BLM’s “universal health care” policy mandates that “wealthy residents pay for a portion of their services while low-income and working class folks receive free services.” The new system will be modeled on France or Germany. Black Americans will also receive government-funded “control of food sources, housing and land.” Robust reparations programs will include “full and free access for all Black people (including undocumented and currently and formerly incarcerated people) to lifetime education” at any university, community college, or technical education facility, as well as “retroactive forgiveness of student loans.” Replacing education with agitprop and welfare services: Under the M4BL/BLM manifesto, public schools would be transformed from centers of education to the delivery points of intersectional/multicultural studies and comprehensive welfare programs, including free abortion for minors (without specifying a minimum age): A constitutional right at the state and federal level to a fully-funded education which includes a clear articulation of the right to: a free education for all, special protections for queer and trans students, wrap around services, social workers, free health services (including reproductive body autonomy), a curriculum that acknowledges and addresses students’ material and cultural needs, physical activity and recreation, high quality food, free daycare, and freedom from unwarranted search, seizure or arrest. “To ensure an intersectional approach,” the group continues, the public school budgeting process must include “representation from specific populations of people,” including “formerly and currently incarcerated” people. Defunding the police and ending prisons: BLM’s best-known demand is to “defund the police.” M4BL also proposes an “end” to arrests of any black students, and “an end to all jails, detention centers, youth facilities and prisons as we know them.” House arrest would be promoted equally with imprisonment. The government would also expand Pell grant funding to educate inmates and “[a]llow access to gender affirming surgeries” in penitentiaries at taxpayers’ expense. Dismantling the family: Black Lives Matter endorses two contradictory policies: “We make our spaces family-friendly,” it states. It then looks forward to the destruction of the traditional family: We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable. Children raised in fatherless homes are more likely to drop out of school, abuse drugs or alcohol, be victims or perpetrators of physical and sexual abuse, live in poverty, commit other crimes, and go to prison than those raised in intact, two-parent households--the "nuclear family structure" BLM is warring against. Two out of every three black children live in single-parent families, making them 271% more likely to do so than non-Hispanic white children. To leave this out of racial disparities calculations is reckless, as Thomas Sowell has noted. “Without loving families, no society can long govern itself,” says Jennifer Roback Morse, the founder of the Ruth Institute and a frequent collaborator with the Acton Institute. BLM agrees but chooses to outsource much of the parents’ responsibilities to the government. Start a “global liberation movement” to overthrow capitalism: “The interlinked systems of white supremacy, imperialism, capitalism and patriarchy shape the violence we face,” the M4BL/BLM platform states. “As oppressed people living in the US, the belly of global empire, we are in a critical position to build the necessary connections for a global liberation movement. Until we are able to overturn US imperialism, capitalism and white supremacy, our brothers and sisters around the world will continue to live in chains.” The BLM-endorsed document adds that its “struggle is strengthened by our connections to the resistance of​ peoples around the world fighting for their liberation. … The movement for [b]lack lives must be tied to liberation movements around the world.” It does not list the foreign “liberation movements” with which it wishes to align. However, they will hold the United States and Israel in contempt. “America is an empire,” and “American wars are unjust,” the M4BL manifesto states baldly. And “Israel is an apartheid state.” America’s “alliance with Israel” makes the U.S. “complicit in the genocide taking place against the Palestinian people….it makes US citizens complicit in the abuses committed by the Israeli government.” BLM does not state what punishment it would mete out to civilians complicit in "genocide." However, it demands lawmakers cut “the US military budget by 50%, which will lead to the closure of the over 800 U.S. military bases the U.S. [operates] around the world” and the return of troops deployed overseas — a move many Americans, especially libertarians, support. Higher taxes, with a specifically racial focus: The group writes confusingly that governments “have increasingly decreased the use of progressive taxation.” As a result, “the wealthiest Americans and powerful corporations continue to evade their fair share of taxes,” it says. The top 1% of U.S. income earners pay 37% of federal income taxes, and the top 10% of U.S. pay 47% of all taxes, while the bottom 44% pay nothing. “Begin by raising the top marginal rate first to 50 percent and then gradually up to 80 percent,” M4BL suggests. The federal government should focus on “taxing ‘bads’ not ‘goods.’” BLM would increase the death tax, the capital gains tax, impose new taxes on real estate transfers and financial “speculation,” and create a national wealth tax. Each state would follow suit by imposing a heavily progressive state income tax on individuals and corporations and 50 state wealth taxes. All “tax reform legislation” must be drawn up “in accordance with racial equity goals” to “help build the wealth of households of color.” Reparations for drug dealers: M4BL/BLM would legalize prostitution and the “possession and sale of all drugs, no matter the quantity.” Prisoners convicted of these crimes would be released and their records retroactively expunged. But that’s not far enough for Black Lives Matter: Any government savings “must be invested into reparations to all people who have been adversely impacted by the drug war and enforcement of prostitution laws.” The government “must also ensure that people criminalized by the ‘war on drugs’ are able to participate in legal drug markets where decriminalization has already taken place.” Many libertarians support decriminalizing some or all drugs (and prostitution), but they typically envision government regulations on the manufacture and sale of narcotics. One of their most resonant selling points is that “repeal of drug prohibition will take the drug business out of the cartels’ hands.” BLM would guarantee the Medellin cartel a piece of the action. Reparations for foreign nations and terrorist states: The M4BL/BLM's thirst for racialized wealth redistribution doesn't stop at the water's edge. Their manifesto demands reparations for foreign nations, as well. The group insists the U.S. make “reparations to countries and communities devastated by American warmaking, such as Somalia, Iraq, Libya and Honduras.” Let incarcerated prisoners, illegal immigrants, and felons vote: The M4BL’s voting reforms demand universal voter registration, as well as “preregistration for 16-year-olds, enfranchisement of formerly and currently incarcerated people, local and state resident voting for undocumented people, and a ban on all disenfranchisement laws.” Felon disenfranchisement laws date back to ancient Greece. M4BL’s drive to “expand the range of eligible voters” sleights the rule of law while favoring core Democratic Party constituencies, which favor more expensive government welfare policies. This list of policy proposals is far from comprehensive. If anything, BLM’s “demands” are more expansive and government-expanding yet. However, this gives an accurate flavor of the platform Black Lives Matter would implement if given the opportunity. It is not one that should be shared by people of faith or supporters of limited government, unalienable rights, and equal justice under the law. https://www.acton.org/publications/trans...-matter-believe
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No doubt ... here's the BLM website and 'what we believe' landing page if someone did want to go there for themselves. https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/I am not sure what the difference is or similarity of BLM and M4BL ... the above blog blurs the two and treats them as the same but I cannot verify that this is true.
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Blogs usually mix opinions with facts and by calling them blogs, they're intended to be that way. And usually people favor posting blogs that align with their opinions rather than be concerned with the facts.
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I encourage people to go to the BLM sites and look for themselves what demands that political organization are making.
Educate yourselves on what is at stake here for the hard-working taxpayers of our country. I do understand that those who are relying on handouts don't really care about those of us who work, but they are not the majority. Educate yourselves and decide for yourselves if the BLM demands are reasonable or not.
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I want to add to my last post. A poster or posters can try and deflect the message by mentioning a "blog," but that blog was citing actual BLM demands. Those demands are real. Here is a recent update from the LA BLM chapter. It's long, but please take the time to read it. It starts off tame enough, but keep reading and educate yourself. I can provide link after link from the BLM headquarters and the different chapters. They are all pretty similar and people need to be aware of the goals of the political organization that is BLM is a different animal than the phrase "Black Lives Matter." Here are their demands: Immediate Demands: Testing, Public Health, and Patient Rights 1. Complete collection and release of Los Angeles County and California data on COVID-19 cases and deaths, with particular focus on areas with large Black populations. 2. Universal access to non-invasive testing in Black communities throughout the County, especially South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Skid Row, Compton, and Inglewood. 3. Any COVID-19-related testing or future vaccinations must be voluntary, not mandatory or conditional for employment, education, access to public resources, or any other economic, political, or social functioning. 4. Prohibit sharing non-COVID-19-related medical information and required destruction of COVID-19-related medical records held by entities other than direct healthcare providers, including government and private parties, to preserve patient privacy rights. 5. Collection of self-identified racial, gender, income, age, occupation, employment-status, geographic residency, and housing-status data at first point of medical contact. 6. No forced removal of people from their homes under the guise of quarantine, or for any other reason. 7. Allowance for a support partner and medical advocate of patient’s choosing during any procedure or treatment, and, if needed at time of death. 8. On-demand, free medical care for Black residents of Los Angeles County during the COVID-19 crisis. Education and Families 9. Adoption of all Students Deserve education demands by Los Angeles Unified School District and all districts County-wide. 10. Continuance of visitation and reunification programs (in distance-learning format as necessary) for parents with children under the authority of the Department of Children and Family Services, and freezing of reunification timelines. Support for Black Workers and Small Business Owners 11. Public contracting with Black-owned restaurants and stores for healthy food and supply delivery during the pandemic and beyond. 12. Resources, not “enforcement,” for Black-owned businesses that have not been able to shut down during the crisis. 13. Guaranteed, timely assistance filing for economic resources, including unemployment and small business loans and grants. 14. Support for Black essential workers, especially those who are underpaid (including gig economy workers), by providing hazard pay, protective equipment, hotel rooms to mitigate the possibility of passing the virus to family members, and an ongoing livable wage and paid sick leave. 15. Income supplement of $2000 per month per adult and $1000 per month per child for all Black residents for the duration of the pandemic and economic fallout. Public Safety 16. Employ properly-equipped, non-violent, community care workers as neighborhood resources, instead of expanding patrols by funding police and law enforcement. 17. Funding for neighborhood-based community care plans in Black communities throughout the County, especially South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Skid Row, Compton, and Inglewood. 18. Moratorium on all non-violent arrests. 19. Dismissal of all non-violent criminal warrants and citations. Housing 20. On-demand, safe housing and supportive resources for unsheltered people and those fleeing unsafe conditions in unused hotel and motel rooms and vacant housing units. 21. Cancellation of rents and mortgages, and replacement of rental income to non-corporate Black property owners until the pandemic and economic fallout subsides. 22. Stop all sweeps of houseless settlements and provide bathrooms, showers, hand washing stations, soap, water, laundry vouchers, dumpsters, vermin abatement, and cleaning supplies. Criminal Justice Reform 23. Immediate release of all people who are pretrial, bail-eligible, elderly, youth, pregnant, infirmed, immuno-comprimised and those held on parole/probation violations or infractions/non-serious misdemeanors from jails or detention. 24. Immediate release of all people who are parole-eligible, parole-suitable, elderly, youth, pregnant, infirmed, immuno-comprimised and those held on parole violations or non-violent felonies from prisons. 25. Provision of free housing, healthcare, food resources, and community reintegration support (including help acquiring documents like legal identification) for all people returning from prison, jail, or detention. 26. Continuance of rehabilitative programs offered by community-based organizations to incarcerated people who will not be released through distance-learning to allow them to continue to earn time off their sentences. 27. Mandatory usage of personal protective equipment (PPE) by all correctional staff in jails and prisons and provision of PPE to all incarcerated people. Transportation 28. Free public transportation for all for the duration of the pandemic and economic fallout. 29. Cancellation of fare evasion citations on public transportation. Other Resources 30. Funding to provide free, culturally-competent funeral and burial/cremation services for COVID-19 deaths. 31. Resources for culturally-competent community education on safer-at-home practices led by Black organizers and educators, with a corresponding prohibition of arrests, fines, and citations in response to safer-at-home violations. 32. Provision of free face-coverings and gloves at all COVID-19 testing sites, food distribution centers, open public facilities, grocery stores, restaurants, and essential businesses. Long Term Demands: Reparations 33. Reparations for all Black victims of COVID-19 (or their families in cases of death), who were unable to get support due to the lack of testing, access to healthcare, and/or overall medical racism. Healthcare 34. Universal, quality, accessible healthcare. 35. Funding for Black-led, culturally-competent, free exercise and wellness classes in Black communities throughout the County, especially South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Skid Row, Compton, and Inglewood. 36. Funding for free culturally-competent counseling and mental health resources for Black residents of Los Angeles County. 37. Medical education that centers cultural-competency, and interrogates implicit bias and anti-Black racism and ongoing retraining of medical professionals in these areas. Environment 38. Funding for organizations that address and work to remedy overarching environmental racism in Black communities. Food Security 39. Weekly farmers markets in Black communities throughout the County, especially South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Skid Row, Compton, and Inglewood. 40. Vouchers for fresh produce for Black residents of Los Angeles County that are universally accepted at all places that sell food. 41. Funding for culturally-competent healthy eating and food preparation classes run by Black-led organizations. 42. Creation and maintenance of urban farmland and urban farming education in Black communities throughout the County, especially South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Skid Row, Compton, and Inglewood. 43. Funding for Black organizations to start and support maintenance of home-based gardens in Black communities throughout the County, especially South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Skid Row, Compton, and Inglewood. Education 44. Recruitment of and scholarships for Black students to pursue careers in healthcare, including naturopathy and holistic medicinal practices. 45. Funding for Black scholarships, student recruitment, retention, and graduation initiatives at Charles Drew University. 46. Guaranteed admission, scholarship, and support programming for Black students to all public colleges and universities. Housing 47. Declare housing as a human right and provide universal permanent housing for all. Criminal Justice Reform 48. Automatic diversion services for all arrests of those under age 25, covering all offenses 49. Funding for and prioritization of alternatives to incarceration. Public Safety 50. Prioritization of culturally-competent community solutions and resources to address public safety, including livable wage jobs, mental health services, after school programs, and community care workers, instead of police and law enforcement. Transportation 51. Free public transportation for all, beginning with K-12 youth and seniors. 52. Double MTA schedule and make service available 24-hours-per-day and 7-days-per-week. Other Resources 53. Free, quality, universal childcare. 54. Provide ample high quality, safe, accessible recreational spaces and cultural services including: parks, facilities, programs, and special events. 55. Financial incentives to create and maintain worker-controlled cooperatives. https://www.blmla.org/newsfeed/2020/4/16...-of-black-death
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I find that I am actually in (general) agreement with the majority of the demands listed. Of course, they should equally apply to non-Blacks as well...
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Question: Do you live in Canada or the US?
I ask because I wonder how you think who is going to pay for all that free stuff?
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Question: Do you live in Canada or the US?
I ask because I wonder how you think who is going to pay for all that free stuff? Fair and equitable taxation (plus all the mega bucks that Trump says will be owed to the Feds upon Microsoft's acquisition of Tik Tok)...
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Question: Do you live in Canada or the US?
I ask because I wonder how you think who is going to pay for all that free stuff? Fair and equitable taxation (plus all the mega bucks that Trump says will be owed to the Feds upon Microsoft's acquisition of Tik Tok)... Cool. I've always like the idea of a flat tax or consumption tax for everyone.
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Did you really read the entire list?
And I have no idea what you are talking about w/Trump. The BLM demands will not become a reality w/him as President. I would like to hear more from Biden and how he views BLM as a political organization.
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If you tax people to pay for it, then it is not free.
It's supposed to be hard! If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great!
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BLM is founded by Marxists. That should tell you everything you ever want to know about them.
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Btw---you highlighted Canada, but did not answer the question.
So, maybe you thought I was being snarky. Not so. I thought you told me you lived in Canada. Maybe, I misunderstood?
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I didn't take it as being snarky at all. Lamp, myself, and a few others are indeed Canucks...
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Did you really read the entire list? Yes.
And I have no idea what you are talking about w/Trump. He talked briefly about this in his presser today.The BLM demands will not become a reality w/him as President. So true.I would like to hear more from Biden and how he views BLM as a political organization. I would hope it never becomes a true political party, but rather as a societal organization.
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I didn't take it as being snarky at all. Lamp, myself, and a few others are indeed Canucks... Is Canada more drama free than the usa? Its my escape plan if crap hits the plan here.
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If you tax people to pay for it, then it is not free. I didn't mean to imply that it was free; of course it's not. You either pay through taxes or consumer usage of the service.
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I didn't take it as being snarky at all. Lamp, myself, and a few others are indeed Canucks... Is Canada more drama free than the usa? For the most part, yes.Its my escape plan if crap hits the plan here. Leave your gun at the border...
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I didn't take it as being snarky at all. Lamp, myself, and a few others are indeed Canucks... Is Canada more drama free than the usa? For the most part, yes.Its my escape plan if crap hits the plan here. Leave your gun at the border... I dont know. I was reading about guns in Canada and seems they allow some.
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I didn't take it as being snarky at all. Lamp, myself, and a few others are indeed Canucks... Is Canada more drama free than the usa? For the most part, yes.Its my escape plan if crap hits the plan here. Leave your gun at the border... I dont know. I was reading about guns in Canada and seems they allow some. I'm not certain what the laws allow, but in my 74 years, I've never seen or known anyone having open/concealed carry...rare. For comparison: In 2016, the U.S. had over 7000 gun related homicides while Canada had 130....
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Is Canada more drama free than the usa?
Its my escape plan if crap hits the plan here. Rethink your plan, Missy. You now have 4 years of Trump's stank dripping all over your name nad face. Every decent country that you'd even try to flee to will no longer accept your sorry, unclean, 2nd-world, Trump-infected American ass for any reason under the sun. You may still be a 'White American'... but you damnsho ain't perceived as desirable on the World Stage. The answer to your 'drama-free' question is: YES.They are relatively drama-free because their nation doesn't culturally raise people like You. Or even me. They don't want us... and I can't blame them. Your 'backup plan' only works if you are someone they actually want to invite into their society. Last time I checked, USA hasn't really been one of The Chosen Ones. For all your intents and purposes, Trump has effectively relegated our nation to 'S#thole Nation Status' ...in less than 4 years. You can't even run to Brown Countries right now... because even they have standards that White (trash) Americans can't reach. Canada doesn't owe Eve a single thing. And neither does any other country that doesn't sport the stars and stripes as its standard. You are only 'special' in your own mind. They don't care what you think.
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The body cam footage of the murder of George Floyd leaked.
The officer responded by pointing a gun at an unarmed George Floyd all because he used counterfeit money at a store.
Would sure like to see other body cam footage where a white guy had a gun pulled on him in public for using counterfeit money.
This is white privilege in action. The majority of us would probably NEVER have a gun drawn on us for paying with counterfeit money.
As educators, we're taught to deescalate situations. It's quite apparent that pulling a gun on someone because they used counterfeit money is not deescalation.
Only in America does a black American survive covid yet dies at the hands of police.
Black Lives Matter. Defund the police.
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