Maybe now that it's hitting Republican states harder they will get the message of what's really been going on here. It's a shame that might be what it took to wake them up though.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Maybe now that it's hitting Republican Governors harder they will get the message of what's really been going on here. It's a shame that might be what it took to wake them up though.
So, what are the hospitalization numbers doing, or the death numbers?
I ask because, obviously, the more that get tested, the more they will find that have it. Most are asymptomatic, and/or not sick enough to even go see a doctor.
The cdc said today that positives are probably 10 times higher than we know. Yet, we know the number of hospitilizations, and the number of deaths.
It will be studied. And if the latest from the cdc is correct, that current positives are probably 10 times higher than the numbers show............while we have definites on hospitilizations, and deaths.....well, you do the math.
So, what are the hospitalization numbers doing, or the death numbers?
I ask because, obviously, the more that get tested, the more they will find that have it. Most are asymptomatic, and/or not sick enough to even go see a doctor.
The cdc said today that positives are probably 10 times higher than we know. Yet, we know the number of hospitilizations, and the number of deaths.
I agree it’s hard to find the hospitalization numbers. I have an app that tracks it in nyc. That’s the only number I’m concerned with. It has been very low typical number of previous years for flu.
Hospitalization rates are soaring in many states already. The news is out there to be found. I just posted an article in the Covid thread in the EE forum.
Then you have states like Florida who simply refuse to show their hospitalization rates. You know how hiding facts can help bolster your argument.
How many are sick and how sick are they? Here’s the South Florida COVID-19 hospitalization data the state won’t show you.
I saw an article from last Friday June 20 where Florida officials were saying don’t worry about the numbers going up, it was a test dump. 9 days later still new highs every day; that must have been a big dump
And I was quite surprised this morning when trumps hhs secretary Azar said yeah the numbers have gone up this week but we are doing such a great job look where hospitalizations and deaths are this week.
I guess after 5 months they still don’t know that from this spike they are two weeks or so to peak hospitalization and unfortunately death increases after that.
I love the south and I am really worried about the lack of hospital care in rural areas.
Dow Futures look like a sea of red tomorrow. Went all cash and bonds second day both Arizona and Florida peaked. Glad I did again. I timed it almost perfect in February but waited a while to start dipping back in but I got out completely
It's getting more and more obvious who has taken a dump on handling the Covid 19 situation. I refer to them as politicians.
I don't see it that way. As a nation we can't simply shut down and hide in a hole. We have to keep working.
The problem is selfish people who can't follow the rules.
Wear a mask. Maintain reasonable space. Don't gather in groups. If you don't feel well, don't go out.
One thing I do encourage that might be a more left leaning policy...in this time, require more sick leave or pay, be it a few weeks paid to the person, or pay the business to keep paying the employee. It's hard for 80% of people to stay home a week if they aren't going to get paid. Maybe require some sort of note from a MD to discourage people from simply taking a free week off at the business or taxpayer expense.
Strange times.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
It's getting more and more obvious who has taken a dump on handling the Covid 19 situation. I refer to them as politicians.
I don't see it that way. As a nation we can't simply shut down and hide in a hole. We have to keep working.
The problem is selfish people who can't follow the rules.
Wear a mask. Maintain reasonable space. Don't gather in groups. If you don't feel well, don't go out.
One thing I do encourage that might be a more left leaning policy...in this time, require more sick leave or pay, be it a few weeks paid to the person, or pay the business to keep paying the employee. It's hard for 80% of people to stay home a week if they aren't going to get paid. Maybe require some sort of note from a MD to discourage people from simply taking a free week off at the business or taxpayer expense.
Those selfish people you talk about is trump and his supporters. TheY are the main problem right now.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
Peen it's not a one size fits all scenario here. Trump actually said this...
Trump says some Americans wear coronavirus masks ‘to signal disapproval of him’
President Donald Trump said some Americans might wear face masks not as a way to prevent the spread of coronavirus but as a way to “signal disapproval of him.”
In a wide-ranging interview with The Wall Street Journal published Thursday, Trump also said a big issue he has with masks is that people fidget with them.
“They put their finger on the mask, and they take them off, and then they start touching their eyes and touching their nose and their mouth,” he told the Journal. “And then they don’t know how they caught it?"
Trump has often been seen without a mask despite recommendations from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization that people wear them as a way to slow the spread of the virus. Scientists say the virus can spread through respiratory droplets that pass when an infected person coughs or sneezes. Studies suggest the masks may serve as a helpful barrier.
The comment by Trump came as coronavirus cases have begun to rise in nearly two dozen states since Memorial Day. Public health experts fear a slow burn of infection through the summer could lead to a massive resurgence this fall alongside the seasonal flu. Trump has frequently downplayed the virus, telling the Journal the U.S. was nearing the end of the pandemic.
There's no doubt that the nation needed to open back up. And the CDC actually set guidelines that would have made the process as safe as possible...
When cases decline for 14 straight days, begin phase one.
With 14 more days of declining cases move on to phase two and so forth.
As soon as they came out with those guidelines Trump pushed for states to open. Some states even opened with cases being reported still on the rise. It's now coming back to bite them in the ass.
When your president is telling states to ignore opening in a safe and rational manner, when he's telling the nation wearing a mask is a sign against him, how did you expect that to go?
Everyone was after the same goal. Everyone knew the economy needed to open back up. But there was a safe and responsible way to do so. Then there was the way Trump pushed for it to be done. Which was the exact opposite of that.
And his own words contribute to those "selfish people" you speak of. How selfish they appear relates heavily on who they're listening to.
Now states are beginning to roll things back in some cases. If the spike continues they will be rolling things back even further. In the end we may be further behind by rushing things than we would have been doing it the responsible way. And with fewer corpses.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
So sick of science, facts, and time proving those pesky liberals to not only be smarter in general but to be right about almost everything including COVID-19 and government shut downs!
The shame of all this is a national health emergency has turned into the latest culture war.
Since when does medical advice have a left-leaning slant? How standing apart and wearing a mask to prevent one's spit and snot from landing on another's face is a signal that the wearer is The Enemy? How some militant ignoramuses have actually committed assault by purposely spitting and coughing on fellow citizens in an act of political defiance?
Chicago Pride March Draws Thousands Despite Mayor’s Coronavirus Rules
CHICAGO, ILLINOIS - JUNE 28: Thousands gathered in the streets for the Pride Without Prejudice march in Boystown on June 28, 2020 in Chicago, Illinois. Demonstrators gathered to march for LGBTQ and Black Lives as protests continue across the nation. (Photo by Natasha Moustache/Getty Im
Thousands packed the streets in Chicago for an unofficial gay pride march despite Mayor Lori Lightfoot, the first openly gay mayor, canceling the official annual event because of her worries over the coronavirus.
Organizers insisted that the rally held in the city’s West Side Lakeview neighborhood was an attempt to “reclaim” the “grassroots” efforts to push gay pride, according to ABC 7.
The gay pride parade has roots in the Windy City going back to 1972 and has taken place in the Boystown area of the city until this year, when it was canceled over the coronavirus. But the cancellation did not deter avid pride marchers, who began gathering at noon on Sunday near the CTA Belmont station in the Lakeview neighborhood.
Hundreds flocked to the march flogged by social media posts until thousands were massed in close proximity for a two-mile demonstration into Uptown.
Hey pal, the only disdain I read on this board is for the white, straight, conservative Christian male...and it comes from left-wing politics...go ahead and admit it!
Hey pal, the only disdain I read on this board is for the white, straight, conservative Christian male...and it comes from left-wing politics...go ahead and admit it!
When you see honesty as disdain it shows just how deep the issue runs.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Hey pal, the only disdain I read on this board is for the white, straight, conservative Christian male...and it comes from left-wing politics...go ahead and admit it!
When you see honesty as disdain it shows just how deep the issue runs.
Another example of how the left is losing me. All white, Christian males are bad people?
It seems to me that the left is the new right. Trash everyone who does not think exactly as you do.
Hey pal, the only disdain I read on this board is for the white, straight, conservative Christian male...and it comes from left-wing politics...go ahead and admit it!
When you see honesty as disdain it shows just how deep the issue runs.
Another example of how the left is losing me. All white, Christian males are bad people?
It seems to me that the left is the new right. Trash everyone who does not think exactly as you do.
Show me where anyone (other than Fish in claiming it in a sort of victim mindset) has actually said white christian males are bad.... anywhere, anybody, anytime. I don't think anyone has or would.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Show me where anyone (other than Fish in claiming it in a sort of victim mindset) has actually said white christian males are bad.... anywhere, anybody, anytime.
Here, Rocket, every time he posts.
Maybe not in so many words, but I'll bet if you just search "white privelage" here I'm sure you'll find the implication.
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul. - John Muir
Hey pal, the only disdain I read on this board is for the white, straight, conservative Christian male...and it comes from left-wing politics...go ahead and admit it!
When you see honesty as disdain it shows just how deep the issue runs.
Another example of how the left is losing me. All white, Christian males are bad people?
It seems to me that the left is the new right. Trash everyone who does not think exactly as you do.
Show me where anyone (other than Fish in claiming it in a sort of victim mindset) has actually said white christian males are bad.... anywhere, anybody, anytime. I don't think anyone has or would.
I get that reading is hard for you, but look at Pit's reply to fish's assertion.
Hey pal, the only disdain I read on this board is for the white, straight, conservative Christian male...and it comes from left-wing politics...go ahead and admit it!
What’s his name?
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
Hey pal, the only disdain I read on this board is for the white, straight, conservative Christian male...and it comes from left-wing politics...go ahead and admit it!
When you see honesty as disdain it shows just how deep the issue runs.
Another example of how the left is losing me. All white, Christian males are bad people?
It seems to me that the left is the new right. Trash everyone who does not think exactly as you do.
I know you have disdain for fighting fire with fire. The "when they go low we go high" method has failed. So I'm going to fight fire with fire. I don't really give a damn what you think about it. Just in case you missed that.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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