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A mask doesn't keep you from getting COVID19 the particles are too small to be filtered by N95 or cloth masks. As for the droplets when you "sneeze" the sheer FORCE of the sneeze will push the COVID19 1 micron particles though your mask and into the air leaving the mucus stuck inside your mask. This is literally science 101.

Social Distancing must not matter if your protesting "Social Justice" COVID19 will just pass you by...



100,000 people all gathered shoulder to shoulder over protests just crawling with COVID19



Look at this sea of people no social distancing whatsoever



Again you folks are missing the point.

I DID NOT say i agreed with Trump on COVID19
I DID NOT say COVID19 isn't a problem

I DID SAY masks are NOT the solution, the only viable solution to fighting this virus is Social Distancing, Thjat is the only 100% proven method to stop the spread of this disease. Dr. Fauchi has said this over, and over again. the mask does very little to help, its staying part and not gathering in large groups that is truly effective in fighting this plague.

Again, Fauci said it would be 4-6 weeks before the COVID in these moron protesters and rioters spread would come to the forefront, and now here we are right on schedule just like Fauci predicted. the left news acted like COVID19 would spare these people because they are protesting "Social Justice"

these protesters will be responsible for killing many thousands of people who otherwise would not have died of COVID19.They took it home to vulnerable parents, grandparents, and other immune compromised people who otherwise would not have been exposed had they just followed Social Distancing guidelines like they were supposed to.

You want to wear mask, fine, wear one.

I don't wear a mask, but you know what, I stay away from people and maintain social distance. All the people i see in stores wearing masks ignore social distancing and just walk right up next to people like that mask makes them immune to COVID19...its irritating to be frank.

The covid particles might be small enough to get through a mask alone, but they travel in droplets which would make them much bigger. Unless they are in fact airborne.

Willful ignorance. You are very good at that. Someone else already pointed out why masks are important. But carry on.

YES!!!!

You get it! Of course its airborne. How do you think its spread by breathing it in? It would have to airborne.

Not being smart. Im just thanking you for understanding what I am saying.

No, Im just pointing out the flaws in the mask "Opinion"

An N95 Mask or Cloth Mask helping stop the spread is a medical OPINION. Its "Thought it might"

COVID19 particles being 1 micron is FACT and not an opinion.

Its also FACT that N95 and Cloth masks only filter things larger than 3 microns. If Covid 19 is 1 micro well...you know what that means.

The sheer force of a sneeze will in many cases allow the COVID19 particles to escape the mucas and pass through just because of the force they are being propelled at.

Did you know when you sneeze your expelling air at around 10 mph?



10 mph is quite a lot of force to be throwing mucas and droplets, when the droplets hit that cloth mask force just doesn't stop, the excess energy is expended, since the mask can NOT impede micros smaller than .3, the .1 micros(COVID19) are pushed though your mask and out into the air.

Im not trying to be mean to people, but when you think critically and use common science taught in school and lessons on inertia and force, knowing that COVID19 particles are smaller than what a mask can filter, the laws of physics says those particles are going to be expelled through your mask when you sneeze hard at a speed of 10 mph.

If you want to wear a mask go ahead, im not looking down anyone who choose to. I just don't personally believe they do much to help and science seems to back that. Even Fauchi himself said early on that masks were not helpful and he is the worlds fremost expert in infectious diseases. Even today he says social distancing is more important than a mask that may or may not work.

Also, not all mask are created equal. Some work a little bit, some don't work at all. That muddies the waters a bit.

Well being airborne and traveling in droplets are definitely two different beasts. So there is that to consider. Being airborne would mean that it travels on it's own from my understanding, am I wrong?

White House takes aim at Fauci as he disagrees with Trump on virus

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/12/politics/fauci-trump-coronavirus/index.html

yo how many times is trump gonna hire people he doesnt like? how you gonna try and discredit the guy you put in charge?

this administration is hot garbage.

I hate defending the majority, but dude, if there is any doubt at all..............what is the big issue w/erring on the side of caution?

I am so freaking sick of being bombarded by political messages from both sides. Just give me information and let me make up my own damn mind.

Knight. Please watch the video in this link. It explains a little more about masks. Part of the reason they’re effective is because they keep your exhaled air close to you. Making social distancing that much more effective.
I’d encourage everyone to watch...

https://www.cleveland19.com/2020/06/17/v...face-coverings/

See it's not about sides or majority or minority... it's about facts and truth. Smh

Why this still needs to be explained after however many months of this going on is beyond me. If someone has stuck their head so far in the ground that they still can't get on board with official recommendations (backed by real scientific data vs pseudo-science), they're probably not going to get it.

Florida ...now15,000 cases per day. Some hospitals reporting over 100% capacity. This is going to get real bad real fast. Opened too early and now slow to respond to the spike. Where is trump? On twitter saying don’t blame me blame the experts he didn’t listen to.

right, he's out here blaming the experts he freaking hired.

look at the hit job him and his supporters are doing on Fauci and the CDC.

dude is out here contradicting his own administrations advice. i just dont get it.

Even Trump supporters have to admit he botched this whole thing. There's a lot that gets said and distorted in the media to pit one side against the other, and it's really hard to determine the fact from the fiction and find the real truth sometimes.

I don’t think Trumps response to the virus falls under that category. I think it's a blatant failure of leadership. Objective people, regardless of whether or not they support Trump, have to acknowledge this. It's quite the cluster.

imo, this is the problem with electing wannabe strongmen.

their idea of projecting strength is dangerous to the public at large. Trump didnt want to wear a mask only because of this warped idea of strength.

he FINALLY wore a mask when he visited Walter Reed hospital recently. think about how much strength he couldve projected simply by following the advice of his own agencies.

COVID is not his fault, but his response certainly is.

He absolutely did botch this. He lied and mislead from the beginning. He made and continues to make uneducated predictions and statements that prove to be absolutely false and tries to lie his way out of them. And then to brag that doctors are impressed with the knowledge he has regarding this virus is nauseating. I'm a conservative, but I'm willing to admit that this guy is absolutely dangerous when it comes to dealing with this pandemic. He is not qualified to deal with this problem and is unwilling to relent to those that are.

This is a GREAT way to phrase it. Too often, it does feel like some are trying to blame COVID on Trump, which is dumb. All that does is hurt the credibility of lots of people that are (legitimately) criticizing what he is accountable for.

There's plenty that he is accountable for.... more than enough to take him to the woodshed.

in a nutshell.

If only that were true.

Lots of conflicting science studies say they are marginally effective or not effective at all.



Social Distancing is the ONLY proven thing that will protect you. I argue the mask gives people a FALSE sense of security and causes them to ignore social distancing and puts people at greater risk.

A person without a mask that maintains 6-8ft of social distancing is less at risk than the average person you see at the store wearing a mask while they just ignore distancing all together. The majority of the people I see out wearing masks don't stay 6ft from people, the ones not wearing masks however the majority of them do.

Take it for what its worth.

If you want to believe a piece of cloth over your mouth is going to protect you, fine. Ill choose proven science by social distancing, hand washing, and proper hygiene. I do carry out service for groceries, and everything else because these mask wearing morons around here don't keep social distance and will just crowd you anyways.

Just stop your uneducated BS.....pfffft. our lives aren’t worth squat to trump and his supporters

For the 1000th time...

I don't wear my mask for me. I wear it because it protects others from what I could be (unintentionally) sending into the air via moisture droplets.

You are correct that social distancing is #1 as far as prevention goes, but we see examples every day that normal life was not set up for that. We need fallback options. Other countries are showing us that it's possible if we can pull our collective head out of our butt.

Nice try. But... he thinks he’s a unicorn.

Don't you find it slightly amusing, if not sad, that in the countries that have mandated mask wearing they have the virus under control and we still have people putting up the argument that it doesn't help?

j/c...

And Disney just opened back up this past Saturday...

That's like saying now that the fire has reached inferno stage it probably isn't going to get any worse. And Florida just hit an all time high in corona cases in a single day ever anywhere in this country.

No joke, I don't find it the slightest bit amusing. Maybe I will once it's in the rear-view mirror. It's frustrating that a bunch of mouth-breathers can't follow simple instructions, even despite the consequences being blasted out in the news.

Then you see it in the sad category as I do.

... and just to expand on that a little bit...

I find it particularly frustrating because we had COVID on the ropes for a minute there. At least in OH, we were looking great, and then starting easing restrictions with the caveat that we had to practice individual responsibility/accountability... and we're failing miserably.

For me, I keep coming back to something I heard once a while back. Rights (freedoms) can only continue to exist when they go hand-in-hand with responsibility/accountability. If you can't or won't exercise your right/freedom responsibly, one can make the argument that you don't deserve it. As a conservative looking out over our current political/societal landscape, this is pretty troubling.

j/c...

Yeah, CA is pretty crazy. They got hit hard, started looking good, now they're getting hit hard again.

My sister is still living out there (I moved 2 years ago), and trying to talk to her about it. She's a little busy these days (officer with OC Sheriff).

yo....we're still in the first wave, aren't we...

Our governemnet has NO CLUE about which wave we are in

you know, for all this money that our country supposedly has, we really do operate like a third world country.

its getting real disheartening how other countries *supposedly* beneath us are owning us in how to take care of your people during a pandemic.

bro, we're not even allowed to travel to europe anymore. they got us quarantined like this is Ebola in west africa.

its embarrassing.

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I ca agree with that 110 percent bro.

Good lord.....

Trump again directs blame at Obama as coronavirus pandemic worsens in U.S.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-blames-obama-biden-coronavirus-testing-fact-check-204552449.html

So let’s recap:

It’s a hoax.

Its just a bad flu.

It will magically go away.

Obama had more deaths with H1N1.

Obama didn’t leave us a playbook.

China China China.

Were testing too much.

The liberals just want to make me look bad.

It’s again a hoax.

And it’s Obama’s fault, again.

oh, and by the way:

in between all of that, he's:

put pence in charge of the task force, and then put pence on the sideline and did all the talking. let Fauci talk, then put HIM on the sideline and did all the talking. Put The Kush God in charge. he said something dumb, and then got back in the front of the cameras to do all of the talking.

and now he's blaming Fauci, blaming the CDC, blaming obama, blaming china, blaming the libs, blaming the liberal media, blaiming Biden, and blaming governors.

Boy, not a whole lot of responsibility being taken by our leader.

you Trump supporters claimed that Trump is a strong leader.

why did you lie to us? and more importantly, why did you lie to yourselves?