DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Tucker Carlson Calls Combat Veteran Tammy Duckworth A 'Coward' For Not Debating Him

j/c:

I have never watched Tucker Carlson. In fact, I haven't watched a news show on tv for over a decade. Maybe two.

What I do know that there is a group who patrols this forum and tries very hard to humiliate any poster who has an opposing opinion. They fight together. One after another attacks a single poster. Kinda like the rioters who gang-up on other people. Pseudo-fake tough guys who need a gang around them and who are afraid to stand up alone.

I think it is a shame that many posters w/contrary opinions have left this forum due to the harassment, lies, gang-like fighting style, and bullying of certain folks who call themselves "liberals." LMAO...........you are so far away from being "liberal." You act like a "Hate Group."

I do not agree w/the takes from guys like 40, Diam, etc, etc...........but, I'm here to tell you this: They have a right to voice their opinion w/out being ganged-up on and chased away. You guys are shameful! You aren't liberal. You are oppressive, hateful folks that relies on intimidation to get your way. You are more like the Nazis than the other side.

Opposing opinions are a good thing. Being able to listen to all sides can be educational. Only hearing one side is anything but what is supposed to be a country of free speech.

I actually wish more folks would stand up to you and not allow you to rule this forum through intimidation, harassment, and bullying.

I am sorry you feel intimidated.And while your admonishing of posters for having strong opinions is consistent ... I am wondering how you feel about Carlson and what he said on air about the military veteran?

Is anyone really and truly actually surprised about this revelation?

Not surprised.

Hell, I’ve told y’all before. Look at the trash Fox News puts out, then take a stroll through Stormfront.

Messaging is eerily similar, especially with tucker and Laura.

Seriously,,,Are you kidding me?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/09/opinion/tammy-duckworth-tucker-carlson.html

Peen you gotta be blind to think this is oK,,,Seriously,,

Don't make this comment,

(((Does @Tucker Carlson want to walk a mile in my legs and then tell me whether or not I love America?)))

if your going to make this:

When asked specifically if Washington statues should be remove she said. ((("I think we should listen to the argument there.")))
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----as far as I'm concerned, if you have a problem with George Washington you have a problem with the USA, and it's constitution.

Against all enemies foreign and domestic, foreign and domestic.

If asked specifically if Washington statues should be removed, I say NO! I'm not on board with the pmf hmf of the USA.

can't even type it they already have screen shoted 3 of my DT posts.

... Any Senator, Any Senator of the United States Congress that wants to remove statues of George Washington specifically ought to be explaining why! :and if that means debating, then do it;

And any thing that stood from 1944-1994 without anyone being so hurt by it can't go and claim new hurt by it all of a sudden, imo, unless you are trying to overthrow the (can't type those 3 together)!

government? Sometimes a government like Trump's should be overthrown, just saying.

I can't tell you how refreshing it is to hear a politician speak a little common sense.

It's not Trump it's George Washington,

Can't go and say that since Antifa used the George Floyd's murders' outrage to start a move to try and overthrow Amer: that all of a sudden George Washington is somehow newly hurtful.
Unless you too want to overthrow Amer:

So anyone who wasn't vocal 2002-2020, or whatever, needs to make like a bridge and get over it;
because George Washington didn't do anything new to anybody.
In fact he still stands as a founding General of the Rag Tag army that helped defeat the British Red Coats, ensuing freedom from an oppressive enslaving government/
You know, No taxation without representation, Brittish soldiers demanding money, goods, and the ability to sleep in colonists houses;(confiscational tax rates,)
in short, fighting for freedom from the King of Englands stuff.

The way I see it, Antifa and the left, want to enslave you to the next version, about how North Korea is enslaved to Kim Jung Un, but some don't see it yet.
(story I heard about N. Korea from some few who got out,
Some live their whole lives where some people just have guns and don't work and kill people on a whim while other people work in worst imaginable conditions and have families separated and murdered in front of one another,
2nd story, a whole city was brought to watch people murdered by the government in a stadium or some such thing for the crime of having used a cell phone or talked on the phone to outside of N.Korea; or having bought something from outside N.Korea, can't remember which)

Go see what Otto Warmbier's parents think of N Korea, because that's what Chaz and Chop and things like that are fighting for, that's the future if we go down that route.

screw anybody who owned slaves.

stop asking black america to honor those who treated us like trash.

Ya it's an assonine comment to use the word Coward where he did, but I tried to compartmentalize how his comment is in reference to her unwillingness to explain her own comments on removing statues of Washington specifically.
(As twice in this thread it's listed, She's later explained herself, )

Nobody can take away her Valor and Honor, nobody is trying to,
It doesn't give license to support overthrow.

And that's not to say that She is! But her first comment, "We got to listen to that argument" ?

C'mon, That's a little bit less than I'd hope we'd hear; when asked about taking down statues of George Washington specifically.

But I do see her point, you know I do see her point; it's about freedom and justice and equality,

But We need to understand, if they take down Washington, what is going to replace it is Karl Marx! or some version of some such same (bull poop) belief system!

Stop asking?

Who did?

Edit. Ok maybe there is something I haven't seen before now.

I am not intimidated. I was speaking on behalf of the folks who have been chased away by the gang-mentality folks who rule this forum.

I don't have an educated opinion on Carlson because I have never listened to him nor read any of his comments. I haven't read them because he represents a side that I completely disagree with. I guess that can tell you that my opinion of him is that he is a piece of trash. Similar to the hateful souls who are on the polar side.

This merry-go-round of getting nothing accomplished caused by hateful rhetoric from polar sides needs to stop. Nothing good is accomplished. It's a never-ending battle of finger pointing and name calling.

Once again, if people would spend 1/20th of the energy on trying to solve problems as they do on trying to furthering the divide, this country would be a much better place.

Ahhh - you aren't but you are protecting others that are? I've heard that sort of argument before. Let me know specific names of the posters that you said had specific reactions.

As for Tucker - I don't watch him either. I can read this exchange though and I know it's wrong which was the point of the thread. If you can't read the exchange and form an opinion on what the thread is about - then maybe you are in the wrong place. If you want to only come here and tell everyone how wrong everyone's opinion is and how they are not solving problems and only being divisive - maybe simply start your own thread about that instead of invading every topic and attacking posters with the same message on every thread? Just an idea.

I did not think you would understand that people have a right to express their opinions w/out being attacked by a gang, but I tried. Carry on.

You have your right to your opinion. Where did I or anyone else say otherwise?

I am sure you are aware of your many, many, many, many, many, many, many posts in PFF and other forums - all commenting and telling posters your opinion on what they can and cannot write about ... where they should and should not comment ... what they should or should not 'like' ... hell you went so far (many times) chastising posters for what they DIDN'T write about.

So you're good with giving that advise to others ... you SHOULD be open to receiving the same in return. But guess what ... instead, you grab your victim card! Unreal. Maybe if you even pretended to make a comment on the original post - occasionally - it would come across better? But as it is you want to comment on what others post - and here we are with you claiming to be attacked because I offered you an opinion about yours. Try looking in the mirror dude.

Get lost.

I was not speaking about myself. I was speaking about how a group of posters have chased away another group of posters. I will stand by that statement no matter how many of you insult me.

Screw you and your fake outrage.

I better make this very, very clear because 888 is saying I am complaining about being attacked and playing the "victim."

I AM NOT SPEAKING ABOUT MYSELF. I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OTHERS!!!

I don't care if you/they attack me. You can't intimidate me. I am simply speaking of how a group of posters has ganged-up and drove other posters away from this forum and any other political/social debate.

Again...........it has nothing to do w/me! It's about what you've done to others.

people with savior complexes dont speak on behalf of others.

the speak for themselves. because you just want attention and praise.

youre the donald trump of this board. kick rocks, fraud.

lol crap you really are donald trump.

"nobody has done more for black and latino unemployment than me"

"look at my african american friend over there!!!"

Vers = donald trump.

You two need to get a room.

I'm not outraged.

I am trying to hold you accountable for what you posted. You said people were intimidating others. When I mentioned it you said it wasn't YOU that was intimidated it was others, and that they were chased away by being attacked. So I asked who it is specifically .... and your answer is bluster and deflection.

I am not outraged. I just want you to be honest, but apparently that's not possible. Like the insinuation you made that Njoku is possibly leaving because of Baker. Like you stated as fact that schools that teach poor kids get more funding than anyone else - and when I provided an detailed, credible article that showed that in many states that's true, but in an equal number of states that is not true.

In all of these instances and now - instead of verifying or educating, your response has been (I quote) "screw you". Or you simply run and don't respond when you get caught in your Baker manipulation. . . . . And you think you are trying to bring people together and preaching harmony? smh

why are you advocating us going the Highlander route?

I can't see it fair to hold the standards of today to the standards of 250 years ago.

The reality is black people weren't viewed as humans. Women had few rights. Poor white people had few rights. You had to be a land owner to vote.

I am not saying it was right. I am just saying there was an entirely different slant on things.

jc - just sat down to enjoy my morning coffee. Recently downloaded a book and was going to start it while the kids were still sleeping. But I thought 'I'll check out dawgtalkers first real quick, get caught up on all the mudslinging'. I got to tell you, the last 20-25 posts were probably way better than the book I was going to read. High drama.

I think that is about a bs argument, I always view black people as people, Women always had rights, maybe the vote back then was more viewed as a household vote:
We all know the family isn't what it was even in 1970, let alone 1930 or before,
I think even back then black people were always viewed as human and it's disgraceful to even say/suggest otherwise. (that's phst dude) Slavery, it's just so messed up

Poor white people? It was poor white people who started Jamestown, the pilgrims

Some people weren't viewed as humans? I think that's about the most messed up thing I've read on this board, in ... since 1995.

Even then, people, who couldn't go or live where they wanted or get gain from their work, but still human. So messed up.

Time to get out of this topic.

That would be a fair point if it wasn’t for the fact that we still have systems in place that enforces those standards.

Don’t declare all men are created equal if all men aren’t created equal.

That excuse of “that’s how it was back then” ended in 1776 with that declaration.

I’m not even one that cares about Washington’s statue. But that’s the thing: I don’t care from either point of view.

Yes, he’s a founding father and our greatest general. So I don’t care about His statue being up.

Yes, he’s a slave owner, so I don’t care that people want to remove it.

Because it’s a statue. People acting like we learn our history from statues. It’s a joke. It’s like saying because the Germans ripped down statues of hitler, nobody will ever learn about holocaust.

I’m simply telling you to not expect me to honor men he kept my people in chains, as well as those who fought to keep my people in chains.

Stop asking me to respect oppressors.

j/c

Let's see here. How do we actually unpack some of the misguided comments? I'll give it a go.

First let's look at who advocated we end up where we are now.

No Political correctness! That was the rallying cry from the right. Some of us tried to explain that all this comment really meant was they needed an excuse to be azzhats. That they saw being polite, having civil debates and having at least a shred of common decency among each other as somehow being wrong.

But no, somehow being decent was a terrible thing.

Next it was how liberals were "snowflakes" with no spine or backbone. How we didn't know how to fight back. So in turn they voted in Trump. The most nasty person that has ever sat in The Oval office. Who sends messages to divide Americans against each other. Not based on principal or policy. Not based on a personal belief system. But just to send an "us verses them message" to America. Calling anyone who disagrees with him names. Claiming those who stand against him are "un-American".

We had several posters that supported him on this very board seemingly mimicking him and spreading the same divisive messages.

What happened? They got a dose of their own medicine. Suddenly their tactics didn't taste so sweet when it hit their own mouth. Suddenly the old saying, "What's good for the goose is good for the gander" didn't apply when it came to them. We have actual leaders of our nation supporting that division and playing follow the leader to a clown no matter what terrible things he says or does.

And then what happens? We have some "Justice Warrior" parade around on this board like this is the fault of those fighting against that. Fighting the very people that give those on the right a dose of the very medicine they themselves prescribed.

Those of us who hold no actual power are in his cross hairs. Those of us who fought back against the "40 cents" of the world are suddenly his concern. Rather than rally about something actually important, like how those who actually hold power divide us, he is obsessed with a message board? Wow. Let that sink in for a minute.

What kind of individual allows himself to be so consumed by some internet message board that he thinks that's the actual problem here? What has to possess a person that he feels some need to hold the "Church of Vers" on a daily basis preaching to an audience that doesn't give a damn about anything he says?

This is what it looks like when someone actually allows a forum to infect them. When they feel some deep seated need to act superior and feel he has some right to tell people how to communicate. When he feels he has the right to attempt to dictate the actions of others.

Some may consider that a superiority complex. Some may consider that delusions of grandeur. I however am not qualified to make any of those calls. I just call it sad.

That would take actually looking at what's wrong in our nation. That would mean taking to task those actually doing the damage in the divisions we rail against. That would take a big picture approach to what's going on.

That's not going to happen. He's too laser focused to adding another self appointed accomplishment to his list...

"I've done more for Dawgtalkers than any other poster on this board."

j/c:

Back while I am taking a lunch break. I want to quickly add a couple of things. My message is more for people who more centered in their beliefs, opinions, ideals, etc. It's also for those that might be Republicans, but are sick of Trump's antics. My message is not for the extremists.

1. I hope people don't judge blacks by guys like Swish or the rioters and protestors. I can vouch that the vast majority of black people are hard-working and are good citizens. They just want to be given equal opportunities in education and the work place. We have made a lot of strides in education and the work field, but I worked w/teachers who wanted to blame the blacks for everything and I know that it can still be a real struggle finding fair hiring practices. Most blacks do not want handouts. They just want to be treated fairly and I think that is what we have to focus on rather than the trouble-makers.

2. Not all Democrats are the name-calling, attacking, anti-Christian, mean-spirited folks that we see on here. Most Dems are good people, but they just don't talk as much as some others do.

In summary, I think most folks are good people and want to support unity and fairness rather than the divide and conquer mantra that is so often shoved down our throats by a viscous media and on certain social media venues.

While you were working or while you were on lunch - did you come up with any actual names of actual posters who are intimidated and have been attacked on this forum? I mean you stated that as fact, not opinion, so I am very interested to know the factual details.

Thank you.

WOW . . . that brought back memories. Dang if we didn't sing that song at assembly a LOT. Took me back - I know that wasn't your intent but it raised a smile and some fond memories.

I sang it a lot too. One thing I did learn was to never follow a false prophet.

edit:

not even worth my time anymore.

So you've given in to the hijacker?

lol man bro, i havent been suspended on the board yet in 2020 (very surprising cause i thought for sure a few were coming), and im trying to keep the streak alive.

thats all imma say about how i view Vers and his nonsense.

Such a well-trained dog.