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Exactly..

Every day, you come on here and string together dozens of posts where you do nothing but mock others, attack others, and belittle others. It has to be a drag to be so miserable that you feel the need to do those things multiple times daily. You never take a break.

It's those kind of posts that make me wish we had a love option instead of a like option.

I'm a very happy person. In case you forgot, you're the one who sends curse laden texts to my phone. I've never sent a PM to another poster threatening to sue them or went off crying in the refs forum asking that they change the rules because of my anger, hate or feeling of being diminished in some fashion.

No, that would be you. Talking about how hateful others are is all you do. Yet your own actions show who really has the problem. The last time we talked you said that I was an instigator. I totally agreed with you. I don't deny that. But I consider that an exercise of enjoyment.

I don't wear what happens on this board as some kind of anchor around my neck. Try it some time.

Classy.

I'm curious if anyone reads what I actually wrote, or if they jump to a conclusion after a few lines and make an immediate post.

I thought the correlation to smoking was quite clear. At one time, if I wanted to eat at a restaurant where I could smoke after my meal, I could. If I wanted to eat at a non-smoking restaurant, I could. I had the choice for either at the same time.

If someone wants to not wear a mask, they can. If a business owner refuses to allow them into their shop, they can. I've even seen signs, since I live near the beach, "no shirt, no shoes, no mask, no service". Good for that business owner.

What I don't like, is when a governor, mayor, or some other official mandates by fiat, "though shalt wear a mask, or else" without any legal process. If they suddenly order everyone to take a vaccine, will you?

If we all become sheep, they'll eventually lead us to slaughter.

Do you mean like the texts you sent me?

It's funny how you know everything I said is true and you can't dispute it. You only take issue with the way it was presented.

That's something you're just going to have to learn to deal with. Or don't. I could care less either way.

You haven't figured out that you too are a sheep have you?

You don't have the right to risk the health and life of others. What's so hard to understand about that?

This is exactly why leadership from the top, from the president was so important. Not to mandate but to set the example.

Let's face it, 98% of people are followers. There are very few natural leaders. People will follow. Can you imagine if Trump got on TV and said something like this -

"To my fellow Americans, this virus is real. It does not care about politics, gender, race, or age. It is imperative that we take care of ourselves and our fellow citizens. One of the best ways to do that is to wear a mask when going out. I will do it. My team will do it. I want everyone to do it until we can get this virus under control. We should all do it because it's the right thing to do."

I believe in my heart this would have changed behaviors. People want to be led. And they will follow any lead, good or bad.

Otherwise I don't necessarily disagree with anything else you said. Maybe we don't need mandates, but we need leadership and the right example being set.

Oh, I was waiting for that comment from you.

You don't have the right to risk the life and health of others.

Therefore, to stop the virus in its tracks, the government will now mandate that everyone is quarantined in their homes. Food will be delivered weekly, along with other essentials. Checks and inspections will be done until we determine it's safe for you to leave your homes.

Yeah, a little over the top, but not really far off if we allow mandates without any sort of representation.

The governor of VA mandated that he was suspending yearly vehicle inspections due to the virus. I wonder how many people's safety he's risking by allowing unsafe cars on the road.

Democrats have proposed that black people get the vaccine first. How many of you are ready to line up?

I did send a text to you telling you to F... off. I did so after you called me a racist on here. Instead of polluting the board, I texted you. Man to man. You keep bringing it up to try and shout me down when you can't debate w/intelligence. Your constant character attacks are all you have left.

Excellent point. I agree w/you. I thought that is what he should have done from the beginning.

I do think people make their own decisions, but again, I agree w/you that is what he should have said from the get-go.

It has really been fun getting you all worked up and upset today. To watch you once again try to play the guidance counselor and the social conscience of the board of which you feel so qualified to do.

But I'm getting bored with it now. Maybe we can pick it up tomorrow?

Or dem activists could have seen it as a plot to hide their faces, because Trump said it. I see it working both ways.

Unfortunately you might not be that far off on that, but I think the response would have been net positive.

But unfortunately you can't rule out what you are saying.

A little?



It's funny how next you mentioned Democrats. They did the exact same thing here in Tennessee. And this state is as red is any state could be.

This isn't political. At least viruses and the health and well being of Americans weren't, until now.



Why are you trying to act like this is something new? You have to realize that vaccinations are already required by law for children to go to school. That small pox, tuberculosis, polio, measles and many other deadly diseases have either been wiped out or extremely reduced through vaccines.

Yes those evil vaccines. Saving millions of lives for decades now.

Oh good. I expect you to be first in line. Maybe you could sign up for the trials.

Just a hint for you, other vaccines have been tried and tested for years. This one is being rushed through the trial process. We usually do 2 to 3 years of trials on new vaccines.

Btw, another wrong assumption on your part. I firmly believe in getting kids vaccinated. I do think it's best to space them out more. It gives the vaccine more time to properly build antibodies before another is introduced, which taxes the immune system less. Just a little more science for you.

what does it freaking matter what the Dems think?

god is that your defense for everything involving trump?

is always "the dems COULD" or "the dems MIGHT" with you.

that crap is so annoying. you remind me of them dudes who only want to do the right thing if someone is looking. like damn its so infuriating talking to you right wingers.

yall pull the same crap with china and and the climate change/clean up argument"

"well, what about china and india?"

man WHO CARES what everybody else is doing, or what they MIGHT do or say?

like damn Erik, do the right thing because its the right thing to do, not because some liberal might criticize you or trump for it.

so much weakness in your post in this thread. so sad....

grow a pair of balls for once.

As far as rushing the vaccine we agree. More trials and tests will be needed before I would ever be convinced that it is safe. But you packaged your message in a way that seemed to attack the idea of a vaccine. I'm of the age and have health conditions that would certainly prevent me from signing up for any trials. Yet if I was far younger I might consider it. Despite the popular myth being permeated, I consider many things in this world far more important than my personal well being. That's why America is still here. Some are willing to stand up and fight for what they believe in. Others not so much.

But not everything is a conspiracy or has evil intentions. I applaud the speed with which they are attacking the issue of finding a vaccine. While you may try and compare it to vaccines that were developed many decades ago, technology has developed a great deal since then. If you doubt that, look at a 1927 Model T and a 2020 Tesla. So my hope is that the vast advances in technology will make finding an effective virus in a much quicker time frame will be a reality. Science knows a lot more than they did 30,40 and 50 years ago. That's why I won't try to compare what happened in that time period to what may happen today.

You haven't been keeping up, or reading a predetermined opinion into something I said.

I've worn a mask before anyone suggested we start doing it. I live with a virologist, remember?

I could see dems refusing to wear masks if Trump told them to, just because it was Trump. After all, they called his China travel ban xenophobic when he first enacted it.

I really don't want to be first in line for a new expirimental vaccine. I find it interesting and poorly thought out that any group would recommend blacks get the vaccine first. I'd be suspicious. Seeing as you have mistrust for certain government agencies, I figured you might too. Scientifically, it would be best if there was a broad range of peoples getting it, seeing as the only differences other than skin color are certain groups being more susceptible to certain diseases.

They still have no way of knowing how any vaccine will react over a long term. I'd rather predict football games then that. The only reasons mmr, tdap, and others are considered safe, us that we've had generations to study.

So instead he allowed those from Europe to keep traveling here which in the end created the same situation that would have happened if we let people from China come here.

But you see, here's where you run afoul. People wearing masks are not listening to "Democrats". They're listening to experts in the field of viral diseases. You see it as political and the only people making it political are those who refuse to listen to the very people our government appointed to be those experts.

This isn't about the Republicans verses the Democrats. This is a war between experts in the field of disease control and the Trump administration.

Did we have generations to study them before they were used? And once again you are trying to compare technology of decades ago to today. That's unrealistic.

Hell, at this point in time we don't even know if the antibodies will last long term. At this stage of the game for all we know a vaccine would only last for a few months to a few years.

It's early in the process. I don't think our opinions on a vaccine are all that different. I think the main difference is that I feel with today's technology that an anti viral vaccine may be produced faster than in generations of the past.

bro ive been keeping up with your post.

and your post went from "erik clearly is married to a highly credible virologist", to "despite that, erik still clearly worships tucker carlson."

you cant not possibly claim the Dems would've been against wearing a mask seeing as:

A. they were the first ones to mention wearing mask to begin with (as far as politicians go), and

B. there's no scenario where trump would've done the right thing initially in the first place.

and whats worse is that YOU KNOW THAT. you know full on well trump completely dropped the ball on this. i mean damn he made wearing a freaking mask some sort of deep state conspiracy.

and come on bro. yes, one of the few thing you and i agree on is our distrust of government agencies. i distrust all of them, as do you most likely.

but while i share your skepticism in government telling us to take the vaccine....

polio, small pox, and other diseases were also experimental at their time. and the technology behind those vaccines were WAAAAAAYYYY worse than what we have now, and yet very few - if any- of our people suffered from it. you have to acknowledge that.

and finally, Erik. what are you doing? you, specifically, can not talk about distrust in government agencies, and then turn around and defend the guy who is literally in charge and hiring people to those agencies (atleast the directors and such.)

so if you're gonna criticize and show a ton of skepticism of the CDC and other agencies pushing mask and vaccines, which is absolutely fair, then its about time you started wrecking the guy in charge of pushing those vaccines:

Trump.

You are misrepresenting what I said. Trump enacted a ban of travel to china, which at the time was the epicenter of the outbreak. At the time, the dems said xenophobic. A few weeks later, Trump enacted the Europe/asia ban, except the UK. About this time, dems were in agreement on china, but wanted to say it should have been done earlier. None of this contains my opinion. It's a time line of what happened. This is why I said I wouldn't be surprised if dems refused to wear masks if Trump said so (opinion, conjecture).

For the record, a lot of times on this board, I try to relay facts and info. Yes, the virus has been a bipartisan mess, but from both sides. This is why I don't rely on government.

And as a complete aside, we're actually close to the same sort of retoric as to why we have freedom of religion guaranteed by the first amendment. It prevented large scale changes in government if the chief administration changed, like when British rulers went back and between protestant and catholic. This diametric opposition will break this country one day.

you gotta keep that same energy regardless of who we're talking about.

oh and by the way,

i loved how this morphed into another covid thread. screw this virus man. it jacked everything up.

So it's your contention that the Trump administration has not been at odds with the nations leading health experts in regards to the virus? Is that relly your contention here? Because that's what people see. That's what's happening and you can "what about" all day to try and avoid that if you like but that won't change it.

It's like the protests never happened...

Covid is the new Quarterback

Our newest QB has Covid!!!???

Previously all threads ended up becoming a Qb thread.
Now all threads eventually become a Covid thread

Couch would totally hold up against COVID better than Hoyer. Fight me.

Couch would "cry" if he got Covid and his fans would blame the OL. I would have nicknamed him Couch-id instead of Timid.

Holcomb would say "F the virus and make a new barbecue sauce. Fans would have labeled him a right-winger who was exploiting "the people."

Hoyer was around 15 years old when Couch and Holcomb were battling it out and he would have used the lock-down restrictions to ask his parents for a slew of new video games.

Baker was practicing how to kneel in his kindergarten class.

I was just taking the garbage out and some other qbs came to mind. I wonder what they would have said if Covid was around while they were playing.

DA: "That's not funny! Nothing's funny!"

BQ: "My hair still looks nice."

Bernie: "Let's get drunk."

Seneca Wallace: "I never liked any of you 'blanks' anyway."

Kizer: "What am I supposed to do when you call Covid-19, coach?"

McCown: "I'm going to kick it's ass!"

RGIII: "Let's run for it."

Dilfer: "People are often enamored with my Super Bowl ring..."

Garcia: "I am not a duck, but I am going to let this Covid rain fall off my feathers. Screw you, TO."

Kessler: "I'm scared." Very scared."

Weeden: "What? That wasn't in the game plan."

Some of you w/a good memory will get these. Other's won't. But it made me chuckle.

At this point, I don't belong to a party, but nice try.

I agree that when certain states tried enacting limitations on food and drink, that's too far. But those actions only have a negative effect on you. Wearing a mask while unknowingly caring Covid has the possibility to kill everyone you come in contact with. Is that fair to them?

Should I be allowed to drive drunk? It's my choice after all. You could just not drive in order to protect yourself.

It will be interesting (and quite telling) to read the response to this.

Yea bro. Big government tells me I gotta wear a seatbelt! That’s overreach!

I don't know about the possibility of killing everyone you come in contact with, but I agree w/your position.

We have all kinds of laws, rules, and restrictions in place that are designed to make things safer for other people. You mentioned drunk driving. There are also things like speeding, dumping toxins into the land or bodies of water, wearing a shirt and shoes in a business that sells food, driving on the correct side of the road and/or not going the wrong way on a one-way street, etc, etc.

The people who complained about the restrictions have caused a lot of damage to this country. They would congregate and talk about Nazis and how their rights were being violated. Hell, some of them were armed.

A lot of people didn't have the self-discipline to follow the restrictions and were too selfish to consider others. I think their voice had a say in when things opened back-up. And their huge gatherings and irresponsible behavior has directly led to the huge flare-up in the number of people who have tested positive, been hospitalized, and died.

A personal note: When my wife got home from work yesterday, she was telling me that one of the surgeons tested positive for the Virus. She also said that their hospital is overflowing w/Covid patients. They have dedicated entire floors and/or wings to those patients. She said the National Guard was there yesterday setting up tents outside of the hospital.

I really don't think anyone should be complaining about their rights being violated because they have to wear a mask. Less me. More we.

I should have been more clear. I wasn't saying that in any given circumstance everybody you come in contact with would die. I was saying if that if you have Covid, every person you come in contact with has the possibility of contracting it which increases their chances of dying.

But yes, people need to be about to think of others, and also realize that all the things they are complaining about are going to get worse if we don't get it under control.