DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus ‘It was like being preyed upon’: Portland protesters say federal officers in unmarked vans are detaining them

Of course your answer is to have someone else carry out your hate for you. Since you wish death on these people why not grab a gun, head to Portland and do your own dirty work?

Your hatred has blinded you to the fact that a very small percentage of the protestors in Portland have been violent. But of course firing guns at them is your solution.

I had no idea the sentence for those that are rioting was death. You might wish to check the penal code for that one.

Then you will be even more hateful when they shoot back.

I just heard a pastor saying this wasn't true like 2 days ago. I'm not sure of the context but I think the gist was, it's not human effort, if we can't admit we can't do it alone without Gods' help
if we think we can do it on our own, we are missing out because God is not going to help you then.

OH! and your statement is a thing I've heard worldly people say for years, even though it's not true,
Kind of like "it's not bragging if you can back it up."
Which is also false.

But you really do, or you wouldn’t have said it. trump and his supporters, killing us off one by one. Pfffffft

I am sure you don't mean that literally, because things would get a lot more complicate if federal security forces just start killing people.

If tensions continue to rise, it will eventually result in some sort of scenario where multiple people die. I have no idea how it will play out, but at some point an extremist on one side or the other is going to take it up a notch. I could see an Antifa person take it upon themselves to bomb a government building, I could also see where an extreme right person might decide to wade into the protest with guns and just start shooting people. If things don't calm down soon, then something very bad is likely going to happen.

or...

Louisville protests descend into chaos when armed protester accidentally shoots members of his group, injuring 3

Gunshots erupted during a planned protest in Louisville, Ky., Saturday and three members of the heavily armed militia group, the “Not Fooling Around Coalition” (NFAC), were injured by shots fired from one of their own member's guns, police told Fox News.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/louisville-pr...-shoots-himself

Three Injured as Rival Armed Militias Converge on Louisville

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gunshots-fired-rival-militias-face-173049099.html

good lord what a bunch of losers. looking exactly like these trash white militias and right wingers. two sides of the same freaking coin.

swear american dudes be on the dumbest crap imaginable.

I don't think American citizens have a floor at all.

The daily news is more bizarre than any fiction I ever read.

I guess someone was fooling around.

It's about time liberal protestors started listening and bring guns when the other side does.

#don'tbeavictim
#don'tbeintimidated

#we shot no one
#especially not ourselves .. ...

It looks like there has been gas thrown on the burning embers again.

A rather rough night in Oakland, Seattle, Portland

Jeep drives through protestors in Aurora, Colorado and then one of the protestors fires rounds back.

Random shots at protestors in Austin, Texas kills one

Black trump supporter gunned down in drive by in Milwaukee

Richmond dump truck set ablaze outside police hq

Dueling militias in Louisville

They're a little behind the curve. The other side has been doing it for a long time. But they'll catch up and no longer will they be intimidated by there only being fire power on one side. Using your own rules against you doesn't seem to play so well for some.

j/c:



Oh, Portland. You never disappoint.

dont care what team he plays for, F these nasty ass pedo's!!

You mean they found a criminal in a crowd of thousands of people? What are the odds? Nobody should be stabbing anyone. Pedapholes who have been convicted should never be released from prison. But some gotchya moment isn't even a gotchya moment.

bro i didnt say anything about the movement. i just said F the pedo's.

j/c:

People on both sides are actually applauding and/or championing violence and shooting one another. The ignorance and hate of some never cease to amaze me.

j/c

Wall of Vets, grandparents support Black Lives Matter movement at protest

PORTLAND, Ore. — (KATU) — The protests have drawn people from all walks of life, and on Friday night, veterans from all over showed up downtown to create a “Wall of Vets” to protect protesters.

And they showed up in white shirts to support the Black Lives Matter movement.

"It's something I believe in. The other vets here -- this is the first time they've come down; they don't like crowds either; we believe in something; it's time to stand," said Jonathan Fisher, a veteran of the U.S. Coast Guard.

Veterans responded after the Navy veteran, Chris David, seen on video being beaten by federal officers, called for them to join.
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Meanwhile, a group of grandparents also held a rally Friday.

They met outside the federal courthouse wearing aprons and holding signs.

They also formed their own Wall of Grandparents.

"We can turn on our television and keep watching people getting killed in cold blood, and we're just supposed to sit back and not feel any kinda way about it," said one protester. "I have grandchildren, and I want a different world – period --for all of us."

Another group -- similar but not quite the same -- also made their voices heard downtown Friday.

A group of women in their golden years calling themselves the “Raging Grannies” staged a demonstration earlier too.

One of the grannies said she's fed up with the federal presence in Portland.

The protests have also drawn The Wall of Moms and a nude woman dubbed the "Naked Athena."

But protesting is nothing new to the grannies. They've been together since 2012.

https://katu.com/news/local/wall-of-vets-grandparents-support-black-lives-matter-movement-at-protest

j/c

Here's why the veterans felt so compelled to show up. Something you'll never see from those trying to portray protestors as being evil.

U referring to me? ..

The whole thing has become a big joke.

My favorite part of this whole thing is seeing the clear division on social media. There are people that blindly think that the police are awful and it doesn't matter across the board (the ACAB people). And there are people who are pretty much doing the same by just supporting the police (not gonna say all MAGA's, but big ol' whole crop of em.)

But the best part of the whole thing is how they only post articles that make their side look good, or make the other side look bad. Pro police? I'll post the article of the retired policeman killed in st louis during the robbery, but I certainly won't with the young man that was killed at the wendy's...

Oh, you're pro-protesting? Let me skip right over everyone who has acted like a complete piece of trash, and show you the officers in buffalo knocking that old man to the ground.

I am not saying everyone on each side is like this, but at this point, it's too many. This is the division we need to avoid. Nobody wants to come together. I am so embarrassed for this whole country.

I am married to someone in law enforcement, but even I can see that there needs to be changes made in the structure of these police departments, especially in these big metropolitan areas.

This has turned into sports rivalries, where you just blindly accept that your side is always right, and the other side is wrong.

anything that goes against your side is fake news.

It's all trash, and at this point, it's probably beyond repair.

This is what research has become.

1.)Take a strong stand on an issue.

2.) Do a quick web search to find articles or memes to support your stance.

3.) Post them on social media.

4.) Completely ignore anything and everything that may oppose your stance, no matter how factual that evidence may be.

4.) Insult and hate on anyone that posts anything that could possibly indicate a counter argument.

5.) Never, ever admit that you may be wrong.

6.) Always get the last word, that means you won.

I agree w/you and Sperg. We can trade articles and videos all day long. Some will say that this side is bad and others will say the other side is bad.

Where does that get us?

Identifying problems is a good thing. Hammering points home over and over and over again w/out trying to seek resolution is a terrible thing. It just leads to more hate and more division.

That is the last thing this country needs.

I made a post earlier that tried to open up discussion on what can be done to make things better. Two right-wingers called me stupid. One guy who leans right actually sent me a wonderful private message. Everyone else ignored it.

Sometimes, I think this board is a microcosm of society. Most of the folks who dominate the political/social conversations [sic] are very one-sided. They preach hate. The encourage divide. They love to play the blame game. They offer ZERO solutions. For the most part, the more reasonable posters and citizens who see valid points on both sides, simply keep their mouths shut.

It is a damn shame that the loud-mouths shout down the rational folks.

I don't know if we can hammer out solutions that will work. But, I do know that we have a better chance of living together peacefully if we take the time to listen to one another and try to work together. I also know that playing the blame game is a recipe for disaster.

I think that there are some issues that both sides need to hear and consider. Thus far, I haven't seen many on either side willing to own up to some of the concerns that their own side is guilty of.

I would love to have an intelligent conversation about it. A give and take. A conversation where we try to work together. Compromise. I just don't see it happening. And I am not sure if that is because everyone is not pliable or if people don't want to get involved because of all the personal attacks directed towards those who don't completely fall into line w/everything one side has to say.

I wasn't. Why? Did you say that protestors should be shot? If so, I missed it.

Neither of us are "boys." Also, we were talking about "both" sides. Not just your side.

Then again, your response is typical. It's always one "sides" fault.

No ..

The media, not named Fox News, is trying to sweep this Portland/Seattle thing under the rug.

I didn't think so, but why did you ask if I was including you?

Look man, I'm cool w/people on both sides having opinions on politics and social issues. Conversation is good. I see both sides having valid points and having invalid points. But, I think all y'all should be able to express your opinions w/out ridicule and hate.

I do draw the line when people want to talk about violence, though. I won't name names, but a few dudes have talked about shooting others. I do not approve of that....at all! Those people haven't evolved. We need to leave them behind and move forward.

What are you talking about? I've been very clear here in calling out Trump and the Republican party even though I'm a conservative. You on the other hand, jump on the left side of every argument that comes down the pike. You toe the party line at all costs. And when you get a tough question, you don't answer....you just respond with another question.

I'm looking in a mirror now and all i can say is: Damn! I look good!!

Some perspective. Regardless of who’s reporting.

This person has almost 150k followers on twitter and posted this very obvious lie.




This is a CGI, artist rendering.

https://www.zbrushcentral.com/t/mike-andrew-nash-vested-series-police/206275

No retraction, no "my bad", just leaves it up for people to think it's real.

Is the person who posted this on twitter an official member of the media?

After what I saw this weekend.

Its only a matter of time before the Feds exercise military and anti-terrorism resources to qwell these people. I don't see any other way out of this. The Feds obviously don't want to do this, but everyday its becomes more clear they may have no choice.

j/c...

I'm too disgusted by all of this mayhem to delve too deep into what's going on in Portland. I keep going back to "what the heck do they want?" We're so far removed from the event that triggered everything that I'm not sure what the "endgame" is.

Do they just want to be left alone 'til everything is rubble? Then what?

Do they even have any demands? Are they as far fetched as "abolish the police"? Maybe have all the police line up and march while whipping themselves like Flagellants?

Not sure of the endgame here, maybe someone can educate me...

Good Question

j/c

I do think it's hard for anyone to see a middle ground. I've tried to but it isn't a popular view.

I've openly stated that there are criminals in the midst of the protestors. That those breaking the law should be punished. I've also pointed out the fact that most of the protests and most of the protestors themselves are peaceful protestors. They are exercising their constitutional right to peacefully protest. That too isn't popular though without a doubt it is a fact.

I've pointed out that most cops across America are good cops. But as with any large group of people in any profession there will be both good and bad. Everyone is human and as such there are all types of people within any large group. I've stated my personal opinion that if a cop refuses to report the actions and behavior of a bad cop, it's hard for me to consider that a good cop.

I don't think those are views of extremism in either direction at all but rather a fairly objective one.

The thing I have said that I think some might find most objectionable is when I've called for liberals to arm themselves. But even that I find odd if someone has a problem with it. If you are for the second amendment that applies to everyone, not just those who you politically support.

Since we're starting to see "anti-protestors" showing up armed, everyone has a right to be prepared to defend themselves. I'm not trying to advocate that both sides start shooting each other. What I am advocating is that people be prepared and equally protected. Far too long I've seen one side show up in camo with semi automatic weapons using it as a tactic to intimidate and threaten the other side.

Every American has the right to carry. Every American should be fully prepared to defend themselves.

There is no excuse to claim there isn't a criminal element within these protestors. There's also no excuse to paint all of these protestors with a broad brush. There's no excuse to claim all cops are bad. There's also no excuse to say there aren't bad cops.

The system needs to be overhauled to address this.

It won't be addressed until these people go home.

All it's going to take is one brick be thrown and people are going to start to die.

Just saying.

I don't want to see it. You don't want to see it, but that's where this is headed.

I agree 100 % cause Im watching crazy liberals using swat teams to shut down barbershops, gyms and churches but allowing the rioters ,looters and anarchist to do all that and more with complete protection from the police, and from the Marxist MSM.
Its like the brainwashed liberals,,,, when white people protest against white people for being white people smh