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I agree. I'm curious to see how they do. There will always be people that prefer an echo chamber, but like you said, there's a market for an audience that are exhausted with heavy bias from the right and left.

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They will need to do a lot more advertising, cause this is the first and only time I've heard of it.


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It could be good, IF they simply report the news without bias. Here's what happened. Not 'here's how you should feel about what happened."

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I'll be a skeptic on this but hopeful. Not sure who all the funding players are in all of this. Funding drives messaging often times.


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One issue will be (assuming any tune in) those that are conditioned from watching a heavy right bias or heavy left bias news program, will likely watch an unbiased source and un-opinionated news program and claim bias, because it would be far removed from what they have been viewing.

It would not be surprising to see a heavy right news bias viewer to claim this news is biased way too far left. Additionally, it would not be surprising to hear a heavy left news viewer to proclaim that it is biased too far right.


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Nothing wrong with reconditioning.


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The "defund the police" movement is pushing for national change. There is no acknowledgement that policing problems may exist at a local level within only certain cities. At least not that I have seen. BLM has been condemning policing in the U.S. across the country, not on a city by city basis. Local action is necessitated by the way in which we fund police. There is also no evidence that the voices of the movement broadly represent the members of the community in which they are protesting.


You are incorrect. We live in a federalist system - and thus there is a significant difference between "pushing for local changes in all localities across a nation" and "pushing for federal changes".

BLM is very clearly doing the first - they are arguing for changes in local police funding, they want specific local police chiefs to be fired, etc.


I don't know who you are quoting when you are saying I am wrong, but it is not me.

BLM is advocating for local changes to police funding (since that is where they are funded, that is where change has to be made) across the nation.

I am not wrong. They are not advocating on a city-by-city basis. They are advocating defunding police at all localities.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/defundthepolice/
"We call for a national defunding of police." -from link above

So, yes, they are advocating the defunding of police in your neighborhood and my neighborhood, regardless of whether they know a thing about my local police department and other local services or their respective budgets.

All I am saying is that I don't care what people outside my city think about what we spend our money on and you shouldn't care either.

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Big deal. You GOPers get stuck on cutting funds to cop shops because you think of it as a threat to your safety instead of spending money where it is better spent. I don't know anyone, and I mean anyone, that wants to do away with police altogether. They just want responsible police that are trained to deal with most situations without their guns drawn.

And do we really need tanks, water cannons, beat cops rolling in humvees, etc.? Who are they defending with that crap and how is it "Protect and Serve"?

So just cut the BS outrage over the defunding rhetoric. If you are truly scared, grow some nads.

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Big deal. You GOPers get stuck on cutting funds to cop shops because you think of it as a threat to your safety instead of spending money where it is better spent. I don't know anyone, and I mean anyone, that wants to do away with police altogether. They just want responsible police that are trained to deal with most situations without their guns drawn.

And do we really need tanks, water cannons, beat cops rolling in humvees, etc.? Who are they defending with that crap and how is it "Protect and Serve"?

So just cut the BS outrage over the defunding rhetoric. If you are truly scared, grow some nads.


A. Not a GOPer
B. Have not said whether I want to raise or lower funds for my local police
C. I don't know why some cities have equipped their police with certain things. I suppose it is not my place to tell them how to spend their money.
D. I am not outraged. That would clearly be you. You are so outraged about something that you are thinking people have written things that they have not. Rather than participate in an on topic discussion, you are busy constructing strawmen so that you can angrily chop them down.

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Cut the BS.


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What would they have without constantly promoting fear


Fixed it for you.


I think the promoting fear thing depends on the topic and the side.

For awhile CNN was publishing daily reports on the completely healthy 30 year old who barely made it out of the hospital with Covid. Fox was reporting on the 90 year old senior citizen with Covid who came out the other side unscathed. I find it all humorous.

But what's really scary is the lack of awareness from both sides that they are being brainwashed. It's funny when one side accuses the other of being brainwashed.


The "Left" and the "Left Media" is absolutely guilty of marketing negative news about Trump and the administration. But it is different. It's not a campaign of fear so much as overly negative manipulation of the news agenda.

I will say - Trump and Trump's administration has provided so much substance for them to gnaw on. Folks / Fox railed against Obama with manufactured controversy ... there is a lot more real controversy with Trump. But yes - the 'Left Media' do it to death.


That's because most of the truth points to Trump being an idiot... some of his theories are just totally off the rails.... I mean when Laura Ingerham cuts them to shreds, you know he's got a problem...


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They will need to do a lot more advertising, cause this is the first and only time I've heard of it.


Heard what?


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They will need to do a lot more advertising, cause this is the first and only time I've heard of it.


Heard what?


A new cable news show on WGN that promotes itself as unbiased.

Side note, I tuned in last out of curiosity for a little while. Impressive.


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They will need to do a lot more advertising, cause this is the first and only time I've heard of it.


Heard what?


See Milk Man's post above.


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It’s a 3 hour a day news channel. They won’t have much time for opinions anyways..that is until they go to a 24hr news format like the others.


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Cut the BS.


I am more than happy to read, respond and debate the issue with you, if you have an opinion that you would like to share.

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PerfectSpiral is a known socialist sympathizer. He normally responds with pfffft and doesn't have much to contribute in actual real debate. You'll come to learn this about him.


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I do not believe racism is systemic or institutional in the US. Maybe back in the 1800's or 1960's but African Americans have most of the same opportunities as everyone else these days, especially in 2020. Hell, Obama was elected two times in a row!! Also, race MUST not be an excuse as to why someone is not getting ahead. In addition ALL affirmative action across the country needs to be completely abolished because the policies are racist themselves.

Any issues that happen are small samples and do NOT represent the overall behavior of the country in general.

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I do not believe racism is systemic or institutional in the US. Maybe back in the 1800's or 1960's but African Americans have most of the same opportunities as everyone else these days, especially in 2020. Hell, Obama was elected two times in a row!! Also, race MUST not be an excuse as to why someone is not getting ahead. In addition ALL affirmative action across the country needs to be completely abolished because the policies are racist themselves.

Any issues that happen are small samples and do NOT represent the overall behavior of the country in general.

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Many more American’s disagree. Especially minorities who deal with it day in and day out. Many White folks just can’t admit systemic racism exists because they don’t see it day in and day out. The first step is to recognize there is a level of systemic racism in schools, government, and police departments in America. Just saying it doesn’t exist is a cop out to do nothing about it. Much like an alcoholic admitting that they are an alcoholic. First step to healing.


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They will need to do a lot more advertising, cause this is the first and only time I've heard of it.


Heard what?


See Milk Man's post above.


Oh,, I did see an ad for it but haven't been able to watch yet... I'll try


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Worried that Biden will defund police which he adamantly says he won't, meanwhile Trump is starting to actually do just that.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-orders-barr-designate-defund-013425319.html


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Worried that Biden will defund police which he adamantly says he won't, meanwhile Trump is starting to actually do just that.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-orders-barr-designate-defund-013425319.html


Trump does this all the time.. He rails against something, makes a big deal out of it and never ever thinks beyond his nose...

De-funding a city or state is the same thing as De-funding their police departments.. The result is the same.

Fact is, I'm not sure he can even do it.


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And this is what the beginning of a dictatorship looks like.


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And this is what the beginning of a dictatorship looks like.
Or what the end of a wouldbe dictatorship looks like.

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I do not believe racism is systemic or institutional in the US. Maybe back in the 1800's or 1960's but African Americans have most of the same opportunities as everyone else these days, especially in 2020. Hell, Obama was elected two times in a row!! Also, race MUST not be an excuse as to why someone is not getting ahead. In addition ALL affirmative action across the country needs to be completely abolished because the policies are racist themselves.

Any issues that happen are small samples and do NOT represent the overall behavior of the country in general.

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