Yet what he chose to attack was McCain's service to his country. Just think about that. Trump finds all kinds of ways to attack people and call them names. But when it came to McCain, the one thing he chose to attack was his service to his country.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Yet what he chose to attack was McCain's service to his country. Just think about that. Trump finds all kinds of ways to attack people and call them names. But when it came to McCain, the one thing he chose to attack was his service to his country.
trump supporters will excuse any of his words or actions. Even if they’d smack their kids for saying or displaying them.
Yet what he chose to attack was McCain's service to his country. Just think about that. Trump finds all kinds of ways to attack people and call them names. But when it came to McCain, the one thing he chose to attack was his service to his country.
This. McCain wasn't perfect and had many (legit, imo) criticisms. Had Trump gone after him that way vs attacking his military service, we wouldn't be talking about this right now.
In fact, I don't understand how we're actually having a debate over this right now. We're talking about a guy that employed every loophole necessary to avoid military service attacking the service record of a guy that served, was wounded, and by all accounts served honorably. The guy is a joke, and if you can't see that from this example, you're just not going to see it at all.
Yet we can see some of his supporters in this very thread defending attacking a war hero and former POW on the basis that's it's fine to attack a veterans service because you know, that's just politics.
It's not any kind of politics I've ever seen and if a Democrat had done the same thing they would be raising holy hell. I'm at the point that none of the feeble excuses they use surprise me anymore.
Just imagine a world where people attack others for kneeling during our national anthem while making excuses for Trump to attack A veteran who proudly served our nation.
Wait, we don't have to just imagine it do we?
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
If you had issues with players taking a knee during the national anthem? trump calling US service men who gave their lives for this country losers & suckers should make trump look like an enemy of the state. Where’s that enthusiasm GOPERS and trump supporters?
But no.... the heads will go into the sand again. Pffft trump and his supporters. Wako.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
The absolute level of nonsense, where you post that meme in response to anonymous sources, who don't want to be named, telling us something they can't prove.
lmao
There were people on a plane that said it. Oh they were dressed in black! Now do you believe it?
The problem with hack leftist is they can't see they are the same as the idiots who think Trump was sent by god. Both are so lost in the delusion of how right they are they can't see straight. Both viewing anyone who isn't cemented on their side as a radical other sider.
Grow up!
This is the best part about this board. The guys with the megaphones bring a lot of comedic value.
As to your take on amputees, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Yet what he chose to attack was McCain's service to his country. Just think about that. Trump finds all kinds of ways to attack people and call them names. But when it came to McCain, the one thing he chose to attack was his service to his country.
Now you're just being silly. McCain constantly used his service to the country to make himself his own self appointed voice of reason, paragon of virtue, saint, and perfect person. All he had ever done in his life was serve, so what else is there to attack?
The absolute level of nonsense, where you post that meme in response to anonymous sources, who don't want to be named, telling us something they can't prove.
lmao
There were people on a plane that said it. Oh they were dressed in black! Now do you believe it?
The problem with hack leftist is they can't see they are the same as the idiots who think Trump was sent by god. Both are so lost in the delusion of how right they are they can't see straight. Both viewing anyone who isn't cemented on their side as a radical other sider.
Grow up!
This is the best part about this board. The guys with the megaphones bring a lot of comedic value.
As to your take on amputees, you should be ashamed of yourself.
trump and his supporters have no issues with disparaging the handicapped and minorities.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
Jennifer Griffin @JenGriffinFNC 38m Two former sr Trump admin officials confirm . @JeffreyGoldberg reporting that President Trump disparaged veterans and did not want to drive to honor American war dead at Aisne-Marne Cemetery outside Paris.
Regarding McCain, "The President just hated John McCain. He always asked, 'Why do you see him as a hero?" Two sources confirmed the President did not want flags lowered but others in the White House ordered them at half mast. There was a stand off and then the President relented.
Regarding Trump's July 4th military parade, during a planning session at the White House after seeing the Bastille Day parade in 2017, the President said regarding the inclusion of "wounded guys" "that's not a good look" "Americans don't like that," source confirms.
According to one former senior Trump administration official: "When the President spoke about the Vietnam War, he said, 'It was a stupid war. Anyone who went was a sucker'."
This former official heard the President say about American veterans: "What's in it for them? They don't make any money." Source: "It was a character flaw of the President. He could not understand why someone would die for their country, not worth it."
Obama spends 8 years trying to dismantle the military, and Trump and Republicans always are working to build the military to become even stronger. It's an ongoing theme,
Funny how in election 3 months the democrats pull some stunt like this.
Probably why the Customs and Border Patrol endorsed Trump way back in 2016, when they hadn't endorsed a presidential candidate;. (ever before I think).
Probably why NYC cops are endorsing Trump too.
Leftist! Marxist! Tear America down propaganda!
Shameful on their part I think.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Jennifer Griffin of Fox News Did Not Confirm ‘Most Salacious‘ Part of Atlantic Story https://breitbart.com/2020-election/2020...atlantic-story/ via @BreitbartNews All refuted by many witnesses. Jennifer Griffin should be fired for this kind of reporting. Never even called us for comment. @FoxNews is gone!
Fox News Family’s James Murdoch And Wife Donate $1.2 Million To Joe Biden July 17, 2020 By Elle Reynolds
James and Kathryn Murdoch together donated more than $1 million to Joe Biden’s campaign in June. Murdoch, the son of Fox News mogul Rupert Murdoch, and his wife each gave $615,000 to a campaign committee that Democrat presidential nominee Biden and the Democratic Party share.
From the article: "A powerful tribal identity bonds the president to his supporters. As Amy Chua, the author of Political Tribes: Group Instinct and the Fate of Nations, has argued, the tribal instinct is not just to belong, but also to exclude and to attack. “When groups feel threatened,” Chua writes, “they retreat into tribalism. They close ranks and become more insular, more defensive, more punitive, more us-versus-them.” That works both ways. Fear strengthens tribalistic instincts, and tribalistic instincts amplify fear. Nothing bonds a group more tightly than a common enemy that is perceived as a mortal threat. In the presence of such an enemy, members of tribal groups look outward rather than inward, at others and never at themselves or their own kind.
The danger of this mindset—in which the means, however unethical, justify the ends of survival—is obvious. And so in this case, Trump supporters will tolerate everything he does, from making hush-money payments to porn stars and engaging in sexually predatory behavior, to inviting America’s adversaries to intervene in our elections, to pressuring American allies to dig up dirt on the president’s opponent, to cozying up to some of the worst dictators in the world, to peddling crazed conspiracy theories, to mishandling a pandemic at the cost of untold lives, to countless other ethical and governing transgressions. Trump is given carte blanche by his supporters because they perceive him as their protector, transforming his ruthlessness from a vice into a virtue.
In my experience, if Trump supporters are asked to turn their gaze away from their perceived opponents, and instead to focus and reflect on him and on his failures, they respond in a couple of consistent ways. Many shift the topic immediately back to Democrats, because offering a vigorous moral defense of Donald Trump isn’t an easy task. It’s like asking people to stare directly into the sun; they might do it for an instant, but then they look away. But if you do succeed in keeping the topic on Trump, they often twist themselves into knots in order to defend him, and in some cases they simply deny reality.
“Motivation conditions cognition,” Jonathan Rauch, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and a contributing writer at The Atlantic, wisely told me. Very few Trump supporters I know are able to offer an honest appraisal of the man. To do so creates too much cognitive dissonance.
That they are defending a person who is fundamentally malicious, even if he makes judicial appointments of which they approve, is too painful for them to admit. They are similarly unable to admit they are defending an ethic that is at odds with what they have long championed. They have accepted, excused, and applauded Trump’s behavior and tactics, allowing his ends to justify his means. In important respects, this is antithetical to a virtue ethic. So once again, it’s easier for them to look away or engage in self-deception; to convince themselves that Donald Trump is not who he so clearly is."
Yet what he chose to attack was McCain's service to his country. Just think about that. Trump finds all kinds of ways to attack people and call them names. But when it came to McCain, the one thing he chose to attack was his service to his country.
Now you're just being silly. McCain constantly used his service to the country to make himself his own self appointed voice of reason, paragon of virtue, saint, and perfect person. All he had ever done in his life was serve, so what else is there to attack?
It's nice to see you advocate people attacking veterans for their service to their nation in the name of politics. People are stepping up and confirming parts of this story. At what point to some of you stop making excuses? At what point do you stand up for veterans over your politics?
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Trump says he lowered the flag for McCain 'without hesitation or complaint,' but a former senior official says 'that is not true'
Responding to an article critical of his behavior, President Donald Trump tweeted Thursday that he approved the lowering of the flags and funeral services for late Sen. John McCain "without hesitation or complaint," but a former senior Department of Homeland Security official tweeted Friday morning that "this is not true."
"Mr. President, this is not true," Miles Taylor, who served as the chief of staff at DHS during this administration, wrote. "You were angry that DHS notified federal buildings to lower the flags for Sen. McCain. I would know because your staff called and told me."
Taylor has endorsed Biden and is an outspoken critic of the president, who previously called Taylor a "lowlife" after he spoke out about the president's behavior and characterized Trump as dangerous.
The president's tweets followed the publication of an article in The Atlantic calling attention to disparaging comments Trump reportedly made about US service members, specifically those who died in battle, were captured and held as prisoners of war, or suffered serious injuries in combat.
The article, citing multiple sources, says that when McCain passed after a long fight with cancer, Trump told his staff that "we're not going to support that loser's funeral" and was furious when the flags were lowered to honor the senator for both his public and military service.
"What the f--- are we doing that for? Guy was a f---ing loser," Trump reportedly said at the time.
In his tweets Thursday, Trump said that he "never called John a loser," but he did so publicly during a presidential campaign eventin 2015. "I like people who weren't captured," Trump said, commenting on the more than five years McCain spent as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, adding, "I don't like losers."
He even tweeted about his comments later.
Trump and McCain — who served for years as a senator from Arizona and was the 2008 Republican presidential nominee — butted heads repeatedly on a number of issues.
When McCain died in August 2018, the customary honors were initially withheld. While US Flag Code demands the flag be flown at half-mast on the day a member of Congress passes and the day after, it is customary for presidents to issue a proclamation to lower the flags until the day of interment, as Insider's John Haltiwanger previously reported.
McCain died on a Saturday, and while flags were flown at half-staff at the Pentagon and White House over the weekend, the flags were returned to full staff on Monday.
The New York Times reported at the time that Trump "stubbornly refused" requests from Vice President Mike Pence and then-White House Chief of Staff John Kelly to publicly acknowledge McCain's death. Veterans groups also pressured the president.
"By lowering flags for not one second more than the bare minimum required by law, despite a long-standing tradition of lowering flags until the funeral, the White House is openly showcasing its blatant disrespect for Senator McCain's many decades of service and sacrifice to our country as well as the service of all his fellow veterans," Joe Chenelly, the national executive director of American Veterans wrote in a statement.
Trump finally relented the Monday afternoon following McCain's death.
"Despite our differences on policy and politics, I respect Senator John McCain's service to our country and, in his honor, have signed a proclamation to fly the flag of the United States at half-staff until the day of his interment," he said at around 4 pm that day.
White House officials have also strongly denied the accusations made in the article published in The Atlantic.
White House deputy press secretary Judd Deere tweeted in response that the story is "false," calling it "just another anonymously sourced story meant to tear down a Commander-in-Chief who loves our military and has delivered on the promises he's made."
Exclusive: Nearly 700 U.S. Veterans Issue Open Letter in Support of Trump
John Binder
4 Sep 2020
Nearly 700 American veterans have issued an open letter affirming their support of President Trump against establishment media attacks weeks before the 2020 presidential election.
This week, The Atlantic journalist Jeffrey Goldberg published a story citing anonymous sources, claiming that Trump did not want to visit the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery at the site of Battle of Belleau Wood in 2018. The story, citing those anonymous sources, claims Trump called the cemetery “filled with losers” and referred to fallen soldiers who died at Belleau Wood as “suckers.”
In an open letter obtained exclusively by Breitbart News, about 674 veterans wrote that their support for Trump, against attacks by the establishment media, remains unwavering because of his record of supporting the United States military and ending foreign wars.
“Recent baseless media attacks against President Trump from anonymous sources are just another example of the depths to which the President’s opponents are willing to descend to divide the nation and meddle in this election,” the veterans write.
“Anyone who knows President Trump has seen his love and reverence for our military and veterans. That is why we, veterans from every generation, are writing today to reaffirm our support for President Trump,” they continue:
We heard these same attacks in 2018 immediately following the President’s trip to Paris, and they are just as fake now as they were then. The false allegations center on the President’s canceled trip to a military cemetery, which has been proven to be a “bad weather call” made for safety and security reasons. This has been proven by internal White House emails from the time, as well as by documents from the U.S. Navy, which clearly described weather as the reason for the cancellation. While the media relied on four anonymous individuals to manufacture the story, many more current and former White House officials have stepped forward and, on the record, refuted these baseless allegations. These on-the-record voices include the Secret Service agent in charge of the President’s detail and John Bolton – a vocal critic of the President – who described the “bad weather call” in his book and now says he did not hear the President say the things being attributed to him. No one should take this story seriously.
Throughout his administration, President Trump has consistently stood by our men and women in uniform and cared for them once they have returned to civilian life. From groundbreaking legislation that provides veterans with real and permanent health care choice, to the largest-ever investment in the United States military, to his firm commitment to preventing endless wars and bringing troops home, President Trump has demonstrated his unwavering support for America’s service members time and time again. Moreover, he has spent countless hours as president visiting battlefields and cemeteries, honoring Gold Star families and comforting them in their grief, and praising wounded warriors and honoring their sacrifice.
The veterans condemn Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden’s record on military and veterans issues, writing “the Mainstream Media hurled this baseless attack against President Trump because they know Joe Biden’s record simply does not stand up to scrutiny, and they seek to distract the American people from that fact.”
The veterans continue:
Under the Obama-Biden Administration, the Department of Veterans Affairs was a disaster and our military was decimated. Today, Joe Biden is running on a radical left-wing agenda that would further weaken America’s security and standing in the world. Joe Biden’s friends in the media know he does not deserve the support of our nation’s service members, so they have fabricated a total lie in a desperate attempt to attack their opponent.
The American people have learned to discount lies spewed by anonymous sources and paraded around by a biased media bent on destroying the President. President Trump’s tireless efforts to strengthen and support the military community are a part of his indisputable record. He has done more for our nation’s service members and veterans than any previous administration. The veteran community firmly rejects these lies from the mainstream media, and we stand by our Commander-in-Chief, now, and on Election Day.
The full open letter can be read here:
American Veterans Open Letter by John Binder
Trump, along with first lady Melania Trump, has called The Atlantic story untrue, do a number of White House officials who were on the trip. Those officials include Jordan Karem, Stephen Miller, Johnny DeStefano, Sarah Sanders, Hogan Gidley, Dan Scavino, and John Bolton.
“It was a totally fake story, and that was confirmed by many people who were actually there,” Trump said.
The story came as Trump has promised to bring thousands of American troops home from Afghanistan.
Unlike Trump, who has long opposed the Iraq War and the invasion of Afghanistan, Biden has supported a long list of foreign interventions by the U.S. that have sent American troops overseas without a timeline of when they will return home.
Former President George W. Bush led the U.S. into war in Afghanistan and Iraq, with more than 4,500 Americans dying in Iraq — including more than 3,500 killed in combat — and up to 205,000 Iraqi citizens dying in the war since March 2003.
In total, Bush’s post-9/11 wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and intervention in Pakistan have resulted in the deaths of between 480,000 and 507,000 people — including nearly 7,000 American soldiers who had deployed to the regions.
Biden voted for the Iraq War and supported U.S. nation-building in Afghanistan. Biden also opposed the U.S. raid that killed al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, claiming that the risks were “too high.”
Good for those 700 veterans. It's their choice to support a guy who is a draft dodger and gas zero respect for soldiers who paid the ultimate sacrifice.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
I won't read your article, but Can we make one titled Why Democrats can't admit their party are commuists trying to take over the lives of every American and if you think there is a wealth disparity now, you ain't seen nothing if they get their way which would be, Starvation on one side and The party political elite on the other and justice for nobody.
Democratic future? Stop them or turn into a terrible existence of mass poverty and a few nice spots for Billionaires.
It's their choice to support a guy who is a draft dodger
All of you Biden supporters should be aware that Biden is a draft dodger too... right?
Nolte: Report Shows Joe Biden Has Big Vietnam Draft Evasion Problem
John Nolte
7 Jun 2019
On top of his old, white plagiarism and serial young-girl-touching problems, Creepy Joe Biden also has a draft evasion problem, according to an InsideSources report.
Naturally, the outlet also attacks President Trump over his own Vietnam-era deferment, but comparing Trump to Biden in this regard, as you will see, is like comparing a gun to a tomato.
According the report, after he graduated college in 1968, Biden became eligible for the draft, which could have landed him in combat in Vietnam. What saved him, what earned him a 1-Y draft deferment, was asthma…
Asthma, y’all.
Asthma.
Don’t get me wrong, asthma can be debilitating. Chronic asthma is the worst; it can disable a person. If Biden legitimately suffered a serious asthma problem, his draft deferment is perfectly legitimate.
Here’s the problem, though…
While Biden was scoring a deferment for “asthma as a teenager,” he was — get this — also scoring touchdowns as a teenager.
Biden played football in high school and once went so far as to lie about playing football for the University of Delaware — even though he didn’t, but Biden is the kind of liar who lies about such things.
What’s more, InsideSources points out that in his autobiography, Biden makes no mention of asthma, but brags about being “active in intramural sports” while in college, and “recounts an active childhood [and] football exploits in high school.”
Worse still, during one summer home from college, as Biden himself has admitted, he worked as a lifeguard, which requires vigorous health in order to pass that test, including a very healthy set of lungs.
And then there’s this:
One incident from that summer stands out: How Biden had to wrap a six-foot length of metal chain around his arm to face off against a knife-wielding local tough who went by the name “Corn Pop.”
“You might cut me, Corn Pop, but I’m going to wrap this chain around your head before you do,” Biden told him. Strong words, but he was a healthy, high school football player who could back them up. Biden and Corn Pop resolved their differences without violence and, according to Biden, became poolside friends.
Just six years later, at the height of the fighting in Vietnam, that same poolside athlete avoided mandatory military service due to “asthma as a teenager.”
…”asthma as a teenager.”
Yep, healthy enough to play football and qualify as a lifeguard, which is no easy task, but still 1-Y when swimming is one of the most strenuous exercises around.
Trump haters can laugh all they want at Trump’s “bone spurs,” the reason behind his 1-Y classification, but snickers and cheap shots don’t contradict a bone spur diagnosis. It’s not like Trump was out running marathons at the time.
But there was Slow Joe playing football in high school, playing even more sports in college, and qualifying as a lifeguard, all while claiming to suffer the debilitating asthma that meant someone else would have to take his place in Vietnam.
Back in 2008, while he was running for vice president, it was reported that Biden received a total of five deferments for asthma.
Naturally, the same media that crucified then-Vice President Dick Cheney for his five deferments didn’t care about Biden’s deferments. And we all know why: The media were desperate to make Obama president.
After all, why would a media that didn’t care about Obama’s 20 years in a racist church, his associations with domestic terrorists and Louis Farrakhan, care about Biden’s asthma?
This time will be different. Biden is running for president, the establishment media see a whole bunch of extreme left-wingers they would like to see beat Biden, and since the dark days of 2008 when the fake news media still held all the levers of information, a whole new media infrastructure has been erected.
In other words, we have not heard the last of this, not by a long shot.
We are taking a stand because the democrats are trying to tear down this country What I believe, you have no idea how bad I believe it will get, well, it's probably pretty obvious.
I wonder it anyone, Can bring up anyting Trump has done or said that I would think would even be in the same state, (50 states) of the ballpark, of what I believe are the problems the democrats' agenda poses for this country.
" There is a bond between Trump and his supporters"
Yeah, what is it, is it Two fold or 3.
1, Love of freedom, and that the United States is a unique nation, not some also ran in the "world government system" or A hatred for communism, and the ills all historically documented that the would ensue if the democrat party had it's way unchecked. or A love for our fellow man, capitalism, and the ability for anyone to overcome and succeed with opportunities which are all in jeopardy if the establishment, Democrats or and Rinos' get their way unchecked.
As it's explained to me, the democratic party doesn't exist anymore, it's been taken over by the communists.
Since when? At Least since Clinton took office in 92' and in his State of the union address:
hey young kids, gather round' ...
Bill Clinton in 1992, in his state of the union address, (with my own ears) ehh it might have been 96 or something but he took office in 92, and in one of his state of the union adresses'
Bill Clinton not only proposed he would take control of your in home thermostat, (Yeah that's how long the democratic party has wanted to control how cold or hot it is in your, or grandma's living room, since the 1990's BECAUSE THEY HATE YOU, THEY HATE INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE.
Not only that, but, get this, He proposed, (as a president), that they'd set up some Some New network of hundreds of new courts all over the united states, and they'd all be appointed by (guess what, the President, HIM, Bill, ole comical, Clinton,)
And Without reiview of any congressional rep, or senator, just just
Just give all the totalitarian power right over to the democrat Supreme Leader, just like N Korea has.
Oh if anyone votes democrat. What are they wishing for. Do you not see what is available here, in the USA today, but yeah Democrat voters, want to trade THIS, for something like THAT.
Do they think it's going to get BETTER if they can instill some democrat Supreme leader?
No,we won't have a monopoly of leaders we'll have a group of 5.
Sure, AOC writes the rules, Pelosi and Shumur passes the rules Bidens' shaking hand and failing mind signs the rules,
and Kamala Harris goes on you Screen to explain the Rules,
And the rules are, what are the rules, White skin is privelage, blah blah hate! must Pay! blah blah,
I figure, the Nazi's had a holocaust of 6 million, Never again! I figure if they come after White Christians, if that's what God wills, then what'd be the number, 13-40 millon.
I dunno, there sure is a lot of hate for the White Christian out there today isn't there.
And there are already mass mobs in various places.
It's not about who gets elected, it's bigger than an election. It's about stopping the democrats from getting what they want, because I believe what they want is, well it's an autrocity. And what is standing in their way, Trump, conservatism, and White Christian voters?
So I wonder if anyone can tell me something Trump is supposed to have done that'd sway my mind to where he is more wrong and the other choice is more right?
I don't like John McCain for his political voting. There is no reason somebody has to like McCain.
I'm sure there are a lot of war hero's to like who didn't have such bad politics.
Then attack him for his politics.
That's not what Trump did.
Side note, Sure I lived, we all lived in those years, what, the 90's the 00's IT WOULD BE ONE THING, if McCain just admitted he was a leftist democrat, but what I mean by bad politics is, if I recall correctly, McCain would let Republicans believe he was on the same side of issues as them, and then turnabout when it became time to vote!
Or sometimes not, < but those only when it was clear even though he was voting on the correct side, their weren't enough votes to win, so he'd never have to live with the policy he'd apparently "voted for".
SOO, yeah, Viet Nam sucked/sucks and he was/is a figurehead for his service. <For that I salute him!
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