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I knew as soon as he called it the Ravens would score before the half.
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Almost every game this week has been high scoring for both teams, we will be the only one not to score twice
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
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I hate to bust your bubble,but you did ask. The better teams in the NFL know they can beat the browns with only minimal effort.That's the scoring right before half. The penalties are due to being undiscipled,which is a direct result of bad coaching. The rest is due to lack of talent and that is caused by constant FO turnover. The answer,maybe,would be to give these guys 5 years,come hell or high water. It would be a different approach,but the SOP has been historicly bad.
Indecision may,or maynot,be my problem
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Burrow will put up 300yds 2 passing TDs and 1 rushing TD against us. Mark this post. It never fails, though. We always seem to make rookie QB's look like seasoned vets....
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i thought running the ball North and south worked, running the ball East and West didn't.
Giving up on the run to soon in order to get OBJ involved, I understand having to get a high paid player involved.
Run the ball just run the ball. Makes me wonder if having OBJ on the team is a positive.
Baker looked like the Baker of last season, Batted down passes are going to be a concern. Accuracy wasn't there.
Freddie had soft practices and possibly this HC did also. It showed.
One game doesn't define a season, Right ? (sarcasm)
It's an old song and dance hearing " no excuses, we didn't play well " " We know what we have to do " Blah blah blah.
I listened to the game on the radio, Thought listening to Jim Donovan would make it at least bearable.
Don't have the passion, but always want the Browns to stop looking awful.
Hope your all well and safe. Have a blessed day.
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Freddie didn't have soft practices.
He's laughing today.
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Oh and another question:
To me, the offense honestly didn’t look all that dissimilar from last year. We went spread WAY more than I thought we would. Not much zone blocking/PA combos. I was kinda miffed that it looked differently than I hoped
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I agree. A lot straight drop back play action and not stretch play action.
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j/c...
Never a sense of urgency and always a ho hum attitude...
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I agree. A lot straight drop back play action and not stretch play action. yeah, it was really strange ... at least compared to what I imagined
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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No I formation, no Hunt and Chubb in the backfield at the same time, no play action, no full back leading the way. We get this guy who's going to be FB and he's nowhere.
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I've heard this now after nearly every single game...
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Yeah, I thought we’d be more heavy/PA centric ... but seems like he wants to still placate to the playmakers
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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How many wake up calls does Baker think the team needs?
The one who really needed the wake up call is Stefanski. His job is to prepare the team to win.
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This game was basically exactly what I expected. I thought we’d put up a few more points but I was thinking something like 28-10 or 34-13. It’s only up from here. I expect us to be pretty sloppy and lost for a bunch of early games this season and I’m not going to be thrown by actually seeing it front of my eyes. I’m not going to make lots of sweeping declarations. Yes, we’ve been in seemingly exactly the same spot after game 1 for all time but of all the years we need to practice the ol’ patience this is it. Chill. This season is about seeing who on this team is for real and what to build on. Lets see if there’s real improvement from the start of the end of the season.
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I thought we had a 95% chance to lose.... but not lose LIKE THAT
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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How many wake up calls does Baker think the team needs?
The one who really needed the wake up call is Stefanski. His job is to prepare the team to win. They're on wake up call number 21. They keep hitting the snooze button.
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I've heard this now after nearly every single game...
I'd love to hear OBJ say "I've got to catch the ball when it hits me in both hands". He's had about twenty opportunities over the last year.
HERE WE GO BROWNIES! HERE WE GO!!
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You know how to make this team better?
1. Bench Baker Mayfield 2. I-formation 3. Play action 4. Run 40 times a game 5. Trade OBJ immediately
You'd be 8-8 at least with this plan. Easy.
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You know how to make this team better?
1. Bench Baker Mayfield 2. I-formation 3. Play action 4. Run 40 times a game 5. Trade OBJ immediately
You'd be 8-8 at least with this plan. Easy. I think it's really hard to argue against this.
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Yeah it’s almost criminal not to have plays with Chubb and hunt together in backfield
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I feel like the coaches see the playmakers and get allured into letting them dictate the offense
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Didn't read anyone else's posts yet.
My thoughts:
- #23 is horrible. Who was that DB last year who whiffed on some tackles and cost us a game? Think it was either DEN or SEA. Took some heat on social media and then flipped out and got released. #23 had that type of game. Got blown up on the fake punt, did not react to the fumble. Couldn't cover or tackle. The only person he hit the whole game was Denzel Ward. - All the talk of Hooper and Bryant but Njoku was the only TE to impact the game in any way. - Seems like we went away from Chubb early. Hunt was running well. - At some point the excuses need to run out for Baker. He needs to play better. - Lamar did not run all over us, that's something. - My final thought ... 0-16
How does a league celebrating its 100th season only recognize the 53 most recent championships?
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Meet the new coach, same as the old coach. Look on the bright side, We're still in the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes.
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* After the fake punt I texted a buddy "Is Freddie still coach?". Bad idea, worse execution.
* Did Myles Garrett play today? Olivier Vernon? Sheldon Richardson? Larry O had a nice play or two, but our D-line was supposed to be the strong part of our defense. WTF?
* I was expecting lots of play-action, moving pockets, and short, controlled rollouts, but if they happened I missed it.
* The running game looked good today, but for some reason we didn't commit to it when the game was still a contest.
* I'm pretty much over the whole Beckham thing. He can go and I wouldn't miss him. 10 targets, 3 catches, at least 2 drops - one of which would have been a key 1st down.
* I feel like I've been saying this for 20 years, so forgive me, but how is it that opposing receivers are open by 7-10 yards consistently, but our receivers rarely have an uncontested catch? Lamar Jackson was playing pitch-and-catch today. He had a virtually perfect QB Rating. I checked the defensive stats and the Browns had ZERO Passes Defensed. It doesn't make sense ...
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I'm pretty much over the whole Beckham thing. He can go and I wouldn't miss him. 10 targets, 3 catches, at least 2 drops - one of which would have been a key 1st down.
I feel he isn't a good fit here, I think Hollywood Higgins produces more. If OBJ is gone, maybe the run game that produces yards would become the dominate that it is.
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Any word on injuries? Njoku and Wills out for the season? Wouldn't surprise me.
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I believe if we had Landry and Higgins and the RBs/TEs combo we’d be better off
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I'm pretty much over the whole Beckham thing. He can go and I wouldn't miss him. 10 targets, 3 catches, at least 2 drops - one of which would have been a key 1st down.
I feel he isn't a good fit here, I think Hollywood Higgins produces more. I've been telling you guys this. Baker plays best with swagger and confidence. He gets his swagger and confidence from being the clear cut alpha. He can't be the clear cut alpha with OBJ. I agree OBJ is a bad fit but it's Baker's problem, not OBJ's.
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Nobody mentioned giving up a 99yd TD drive while we were still in the game.
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul. - John Muir
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Nobody mentioned giving up a 99yd TD drive while we were still in the game. The team played with no heart, same as under Freddie.
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Epic failure on every level. We were outsmarted by the other coach, other players, mother nature, laws of physics and father time. QB can't throw, kicker can't kick, star WR can't catch, coach can't read a clock. Good times!
HERE WE GO BROWNIES! HERE WE GO!!
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I agree OBJ is a bad fit but it's Baker's problem, not OBJ's. I don't know how it can be Bakers problem when the play calls are pass and not run. I'm not a fan of Baker either Rishuz.
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I'm a fan of Baker. I want him to be great.
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I'm pretty much over the whole Beckham thing. He can go and I wouldn't miss him. 10 targets, 3 catches, at least 2 drops - one of which would have been a key 1st down.
I feel he isn't a good fit here, I think Hollywood Higgins produces more. If OBJ is gone, maybe the run game that produces yards would become the dominate that it is. I thought the mindset in the 2nd half today was to get Beckham involved and it ended up being detrimental to the whole offense. Why is everyone so concerned with making him happy? Get open man! Catch the ball! You want to be featured? Earn it.
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I want him to be great also, not sure if he has it in him. Something is wrong. Is it the 4 coaches he's had in his young career ? But why the batted down passes and inaccuracy. Not impressed with the play calls. Seems they just ran plays with no aggression.
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If Baker was a better QB I think OBJ would get involved organically.
Because Baker doesn't have it between the ears, he can't get the ball to OBJ organically within the offense so they have no choice but to force it to him.
Baker didn't even look at OBJ the first 25 minutes of the game. He also didn't recognize when Humphrey wasn't guarding him. This is a simple check at the line of scrimmage.
Baker is holding the team back.
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Dave I seriously feel the money OBJ makes, that the HC feels entitled to get him involved to justify pay day.
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