‘It’s like Hitler Youth’: Trump attacked over plans for ‘patriotic education’
Donald Trump has been ridiculed over plans for a “patriotic education” commission for American schools, with critics comparing the proposals to Nazi Germany’s Hitler Youth programme.
Speaking at what was dubbed the White House Conference on American History, the US president said children had undergone “decades of leftwing indoctrination”, as he set out plans for a “patriotic education” programme.
"We're launching a new pro-American lesson plan for students called [the] 1776 Commission,” he told an audience. “We're going to teach our children the truth about America."
Twitter users soon mocked the president, with one person comparing his speech at the National Archives to “straight up Nazi rhetoric”.
Others panned the proposals as being on par with the Hitler Youth, as the Nazi youth organisation’s name trended on Twitter on Friday.
“Since people are (correctly) equating Trump’s new executive order with Hitler’s Youth, here is an interesting factoid,” wrote American author and film producer, Tariq Nasheed. “Hitler’s Youth was actually inspired by the Boy Scouts...Because the Boy Scouts was founded by white supremacist Robert Baden-Powell”.
The president, announcing the creation of a “1776 Commission” to promote “patriotic” and “pro-America” education, had also criticised The New York Times’ 1619 Project, an initiative educating children on the arrival of the first slave ship to North America.
"There is no more powerful force than a parent's love for their children,” said Mr Trump. “And patriotic mums and dads are going to demand that their children are no longer fed hateful lies about this country".
The 1619 project’s mission statement says it will educate Americans about slavery and the contributions of black Americans to national life, which Mr Trump called “warped”.
You know you have you priorities straight when you are more worried about teaching children about patriotism than about WAP (currently the #1 song in the US; I'll let the old people look up what WAP means themselves).
you honestly think trump is trying to teach "patriotism?"
my wife is german and explained to me how people fell for Hitler's crap back in the day. all the propaganda and racist BS masked by words like "patriotism."
and here y'all go falling for the same BS.
history doesn't repeat, but it often rhymes.
lmfao, we really got dudes thinking trump wants to teach patriotic education. no wonder we're one of the dumbest countries on the planet.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I posted this earlier in the general election thread
Sounds eerily familiar to:
Hitler immediately made changes to the school curriculum. Education in "racial awareness" began at school and children were constantly reminded of their racial duties to the "national community". Biology, along with political education, became compulsory. Children learnt about "worthy" and "unworthy" races, about breeding and hereditary disease. "They measured their heads with tape measures, checked the colour of their eyes and texture of their hair against charts of Aryan or Nordic types, and constructed their own family trees to establish their biological, not historical, ancestry.... They also expanded on the racial inferiority of the Jews". (4)
As Louis L. Snyder has pointed out: "There were to be two basic educational ideas in his ideal state. First, there must be burnt into the heart and brains of youth the sense of race. Second, German youth must be made ready for war, educated for victory or death. The ultimate purpose of education was to fashion citizens conscious of the glory of country and filled with fanatical devotion to the national cause." (5)
The Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, claimed that the idea that history teaching should be objective was a fallacy of liberalism. (6) "The purpose of history was to teach people that life was always dominated by struggle, that race and blood were central to everything that happened in the past, present and future, and that leadership determined the fate of peoples. Central themes in the new teaching including courage in battle, sacrifice for a greater cause, boundless admiration for the Leader and hatred of Germany's enemies, the Jews." (7)
Hitler appointed the loyal Bernhard Rust as Minister for Education. Rust lost his job as a schoolteacher in 1930 after being accused of having a sexual relationship with a student. He was not charged with the offence because of his "instability of mind". Rust's task was to change the education system so that resistance to fascist ideas were kept to a minimum. (8)
I honestly think about everything the democrats do is along the lines of starting the Hitler youth you fear, And thus I think Trump is fighiting back against those things, So Trump is fighting for freedom.
I wish you would start to get it.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
we are in a sad sad state of affairs in this country.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
sight the examples. please explain to the board how everyone vs racism is somehow along the lines of hitler.
this should be good.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
You are totally on the wrong side of which side it trying to take away your freedom and life and everything we hold dear.
Your fights to end racism have become racism and you don't even see it.
Hitler youth were set to destroy Germany by taking over the every minute, thought, and decision of their people to fall in lock step, This is what the democrat side is trying today, and I wish you would also see that.
example? This is an ongoing theme from the democratic party left since about 1986, with about every word that ever comes out of their mouths, the examples are so plain and so... It's like you are under an avalanche asking me to show you snow.
Nevermind, I forgot for a minute, some refuse to see, but still, yeah, still I wish you would see, many on your side, it would be better for all of us.
bro sight the example! you did all that, and still didn't sight a damn thing.
last time i checked, it wasn't the democrats who keep trying to control women's bodies or keep LBGT from marrying or doing literally anything else.
the dems have a lot of issues. taking away freedoms isn't one of them.
but thats the problem with conservative america. they fall for the ILLUSION of freedom. conservatives think choosing between 9 different flavors of cheerios is freedom. but these republicans have PROVEN time and time again they are more than happy to use big government to enforce their PERSONAL morality on the american people. the only freedom they ever actually fight for is freedom for BUSINESS. they fight for deregulations for BUSINESS. and yet dudes like you think that translates to freedoms for individual americans.
man everytime someone talks about "Refuse to see" always seem to be the first ones proving to the masses they have...
lol, what did Trump say recently? "herd mentality"
a bunch of clowns walking around with maga hats like tags on cattle talking about "think for yourselves."
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
thanks bro. and i mean that, i know my grammar is sloppy but i always want to use the correct words.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I honestly think about everything the democrats do is along the lines of starting the Hitler youth you fear, And thus I think Trump is fighiting back against those things, So Trump is fighting for freedom.
What is the appropriate level of patriotism to try to instill in my children? I don't want to turn them into nazis.
Then teach them lying to the American people about pandemics is wrong. Colluding with Russians is wrong. EVERYTHING TRUMP DOES IS WRONG...
Seriously though, solid question because with the state of this nation at the moment, ANY PATRIOTISM at all might be construed as something it's not while things that are definitely NOT PATRIOTISM are considered by the sheep on the right to be patriotism. Like the murderous ass kid that killed protesters being called a hero... smh
Kyle Rittenhouse is probably not a hero, he is a dumb kid, but, I believe, if he hadn't have been holding an ar-15 type, he'd be a dead dumb kid. He was holding an AR-15 type weapon and 6 people still tried to kill him. It's insane. White people aren't safe anywhere
And being a stupid white kid, what did he do, he went to stop a car lot from being burned down,
He didn't go into someones house, territory or anything that were minding their own business, because He didn't even go to the car lot until the 2nd night.
But a dumb white kid can't be stupid and alone on the street unless he is holding an AR-15 and even then, 6 people didn't leave him alone they were trying to kill him. I'm sure I have all the details wrong, someone will tell me, but It's a shame.
Kyle Rittenhouse is probably not a hero, he is a dumb kid, but, I believe, if he hadn't have been holding an ar-15 type, he'd be a dead dumb kid. He was holding an AR-15 type weapon and 6 people still tried to kill him. It's insane. White people aren't safe anywhere
And being a stupid white kid, what did he do, he went to stop a car lot from being burned down,
He didn't go into someones house, territory or anything that were minding their own business, because He didn't even go to the car lot until the 2nd night.
But a dumb white kid can't be stupid and alone on the street unless he is holding an AR-15 and even then, 6 people didn't leave him alone they were trying to kill him. I'm sure I have all the details wrong, someone will tell me, but It's a shame.
Insane.
I'm old and white as snow, I could walk unarmed in any BLM or ANTIFA protest and never be harrassed for even one moment. I guess toting a weapon of war and acting like a fascist pig tends to get your ass kicked, but not killed. When have the protestors killed anyone on the right? Even the shooter that killed the GOPer a few weeks ago wasn't a protester, he was a thug nut job looking to end somebody, that is all. A real lone wolf, unlike this kid and the pack of fascist jackals he was running with.
I have seen comparisons to Hitler and the Nazis from extremists on both sides.
This is strictly a personal opinion and I am not going to debate it. I'm simply voicing my opinion and could care less if anyone agrees or disagrees.
I think both sides on this issue are revolting. Asking people to wear masks, practice social distancing, not congregate in large groups, etc is not even close to Hitler and the Nazis. The mandates were put in place to help protect people. It wasn't about taking away people's rights.
Likewise, comparing Trump and the GOP to Hitler and the Nazis is disgusting. Over six million Jews were murdered. Blacks and homosexuals were also put in camps and murdered. People were shot on sight if they helped the oppressed. This country is not doing such things.
It makes me sick that extremists on both sides resort to such unfair comparisons. In my opinion, it's about winning some political debate rather than trying to seek the truth, compromises, and fair-minded thinking.
Shame on all who resort to such low-brow thinking. All y'all extremists on both sides disgust me!
i mean you did all that, and yet you're voting for one.
but ok.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I have told you this numerous times. I am not voting for Trump. I am voting against the new Democrats. I feel they will punish my family more than Trump will.
I despise Trump as a person. But, I am not voting for a person. I am voting for policy.
I get why you would vote the Dem ticket. They'll help your family better than the GOP. They won't help my family, though.
when you check the box at the polls, you ARE voting for trump.
you're not gonna convince anybody with that nonsense spin.
but hey, i dunno what its like to sell out my own values. i dunno what its like to vote for someone i despise.
you right its nothing personal. but damn bro. sorry but thats just weird.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
You can trash my character, but I stand by the post I made about the extremists on both sides. Our country is not Nazi Germany. Not even close. People on both sides use that comparison as a scare tactic.
I will go one step further. It's a freaking insult to all those who suffered at the hands of Hitler and the Nazis when people want to compare what's going on in our country on either side to what those poor folks went through.
we are making similarities to that movement, which is absolutely valid.
i dunno understand how that flies right over your head. but ok.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
You need a little context, I'm talking about Kyle Rittenhouse, so you are on the side of an angry mob atttaking whites like lynch mobs of the past? and Rittenhouse wouldn't be alive if he weren't carrying an AR-15.
Is that the side you wish to take?
How about Rand Paul leaving the white house? Do you think it's fine for angry mobs to target people who are minding their own business?
Think twice if that is the side you want to be on.
Oh, and I didn't see your picture until later. Really? That's disgusting.
Guys like OCD, Rocket, and Perfect do it all the time, Swish.
And what about this from the OP?
Quote:
Twitter users soon mocked the president, with one person comparing his speech at the National Archives to “straight up Nazi rhetoric”.
Others panned the proposals as being on par with the Hitler Youth, as the Nazi youth organisation’s name trended on Twitter on Friday.
“Since people are (correctly) equating Trump’s new executive order with Hitler’s Youth, here is an interesting factoid,” wrote American author and film producer, Tariq Nasheed. “Hitler’s Youth was actually inspired by the Boy Scouts...Because the Boy Scouts was founded by white supremacist Robert Baden-Powell”.
Come on, bro. Can we ever play fair? I am not your enemy. Extremists on both sides are whacked.
You can trash my character, but I stand by the post I made about the extremists on both sides. Our country is not Nazi Germany. Not even close. People on both sides use that comparison as a scare tactic.
I will go one step further. It's a freaking insult to all those who suffered at the hands of Hitler and the Nazis when people want to compare what's going on in our country on either side to what those poor folks went through.
Just stop!
... Do you really think there won't be a 2nd holocaust if nobody stops it!?
This is who you're voting for, Vers. watch it. watch all of it.
it is soooooooo FITTING that trump supporters want to talk about "patriotism" and education, then turn around and support the guy who got caught running a fraudulent university.
Trump really is trying to put The Onion out of business.
you guys are supporting a guy who got sued for running a fraud school, and appointing a woman who hates public schools in charge of the department of education, in that name of patriotism.
you aren't patriots. you are a danger to society.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
and by the way, while everyone is watching the video:
while trump is going "i cant wait for this to go to court," Trump university was shut down.....for fraud, and was settled for 25 million.
but yea, "patriotic education."
this is why the world makes fun of us.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
im not tired of telling the truth. have a good night as well.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
You totally missed the point of my post. Or.... you are totally trying to mis-direct the message of my post.
Either way, doesn't matter. I'm just in the mood to say s# outright, and make myself known plain tonight.
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Your newfound, "White Man's Discomfort in 2020" narrative is equivalent to a mosquito's bite on the flesh of a Black American- a citizen whose familial flesh has literally been stung by a thousand lashes of The White Man's Whip.
Even so, we still scratch at a mosquito's itch.
Here is the message that you were too thick to understand, during Round One: White Americans feeling like targets is nothing new for Black Americans. It's only new for you White Boys & Your Karens.
THAT was the message.
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The very fact that I had to explain my entire post to you is a prime example why guys like me can't talk politics with guys like You.
It's also a prime example why this exchange of ours is the longest one I've engaged in (at PP) for more than 2 months.
Keepin' it short (because 'long and detailed' is stupidly wasteful and pointless),
I won't go as far as the OP in comparing it to the Hitler Youth movement. But what I will say is what is being attempted is to "Whitewash history". To even further use propaganda than when I was in school.
Let me explain. When I went to high school, nobody taught me about the trail of tears. When it came to slavery much of it was glossed over. There was next to nothing taught about the civil right movement.
Everything in our history text books were all about what a great and wonderful country we all lived in and the glorious history of our nation. I did have a wonderful history teacher in high school however. A real American hero. For anyone interested in learning about the man just google Colonel Dean Hess.
So I asked him why we were never actually taught all American history but only the parts that glorified America? He told me he had to teach according to the curriculum. He expounded on the fact that the school administration frowned upon teachers who deviated from the curriculum in regards to history. That he would however make class time available for students who wished to discuss or give oral reports about history the curriculum did not cover. He made it clear to me that he would love to teach about both sides of our nations history but was simply restricted from doing so but left the door open for me and others to do so.
You see, there is a lot in our nations history to be proud of. There is also a lot in our nations history that was terrible and needs to be learned from. If we wipe away teaching our children about the civil injustices and stark reality of the past, we will never understand the plight of a portion of our population moving forward.
You either teach our students ALL of Americas history or you really aren't teaching them Americas history at all. What Trump is really proposing is that we wipe away a very negative and terrible part of our past in order that future generations are desensitized to the reality of what happened in this country. You can make the claim that it was less than it was. That it isn't like they say it was. After all, if it was someone would have taught that to you.
Because I know this first hand. I know what it's like to be surrounded by people that were never taught any better. I went to an all white high school. Well, about as all white as you can get. We had a total of one black student and one black teacher. It was a very rural farming community. So I'm fully aware of how people that have never REALLY been taught history think. I'll give you an example. The most popular name for MLK Day at my high school was James Earl Ray Day.
So don't come on here and tell me what a lack of being taught our actual history can do and the repercussions it can have. I know all about that.
Teaching our children about the Jim Crow south doesn't sound very patriotic, but it's true. Teaching them that over 400 black people were hanged in the south AFTER the Civil War doesn't sound very patriotic, but it's true. Teaching them that the white man came to America and committed genocide upon the indigenous tribes doesn't sound very patriotic, but it's true. Teaching them that our own military and government forced the Cherokee nation to be marched from the Appalachian Mountains all the way to Oklahoma on foot while ravaged with disease, not even allowing them to stop to bury their dead while over 4000 of them died doesn't sound very patriotic, but it's true.
I was fortunate enough to be given the opportunity to explain some of these things in my history class to students who had no idea that some of these things happened. To show them what was being hidden behind that flag known as Old Glory.
Yes, hiding history because it doesn't "sound patriotic" is a dangerous thing. But that's the way things are going right now. For every step we have taken forward, we're now going two steps back. All in under the false claim of patriotism. When you think about it, that does sound familiar and not in a good way.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
you honestly think trump is trying to teach "patriotism?"
my wife is german and explained to me how people fell for Hitler's crap back in the day. all the propaganda and racist BS masked by words like "patriotism."
and here y'all go falling for the same BS.
history doesn't repeat, but it often rhymes.
lmfao, we really got dudes thinking trump wants to teach patriotic education. no wonder we're one of the dumbest countries on the planet.
sight the examples. please explain to the board how everyone vs racism is somehow along the lines of hitler.
this should be good.
When you say someone is racist because of the color of their skin and another person cannot be racist because of the color of their skin, that is racist.
