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man, who could've predicted that a bunch of people who don't take the virus seriously and refuses to wear mask end up being super spreaders?

Boggles the mind, doesn't it?

That would have required the quarantine protocol that all the health experts have called for. We can't have that.

Wow, so now trump is a super spreader. Hope they all come out of this ok. But now he is directly responsible for future and past deaths. Tsk tsk....wear a mask dummies. Pffft trump and his supporters. Not shocking at all. Moving on.

"No negative effects."

I'd never let my child be involved in politics at the age of 13, that's disgusting.

This is why we have so many uninformed voters. A parents job is to prepare their children for adulthood. Being informed and prepared to vote is a very important part of that.

It seems many have no problem indoctrinating their children into the religion of their choice as a young child. But heaven forbid we teach them about who and what policies guide their nation.

If you want to go learn about about policy, go study mathematics, history, and the theory of economics across time in various countries.

The last thing you'd ever want to do is listen to any government official or politician.

So a child shouldn't know anything about politics and who runs their government at 13? Does that mean you protect them from watching the news, reading the internet and forming opinions too?

I'm just curious because you can't really insulate your children from politics and forming opinions.

I'm split on this one. Pit, you make a valid point and it's very sensible, but like TB, I think the world would be a better place if all kids were kept away from anyone who thinks and talks like a Trumpian GOPer.

That’s ridiculous.

That would require orphanages to be built all across our nation and parents being separated from their children. I'm opposed to parents being separated from their children.

Hate to be that dude (lol no I don’t) but we all need to remember that trump wouldn’t had got COVID if he didn’t get tested.

Hold on, I'm confused... Are all of you cats saying Trump spread Covid to a bunch of others??

Haven't seen that news, please give me a link.

j/c...

He has also received an experimental treatment, non-FDA approved, only given to around 250 people so far across the entire world. He received it at the highest dosage.

I really hope he is okay and recovers quickly. He and Melania

I would hate to see this become something the Trump supporters would eventually end up blaming "Liberals" for ... Can you even imagine the Qanon theories that would start to pop up?

We don't need distractions - we don't need tragedy - we need Trump ready and healthy enough to lose without any question of outside influence or impropriety.

...Dear god...It's happening. I can see it now. We're going to have President Kanye.

Hopefully he survives but can no longer fulfill his presidential duties, so someone else - and I can’t think of anyone who’d be worse - would then be in his chair.

Just dreaming out loud.

"That's what I thought!"

Lmao. Reading the comments for that clip on youtube...

https://www.newsweek.com/i-hope-he-dies-former-obama-staffer-tweets

When are people going to learn, the internet is forever?

The Republican Party often deny science, for self interest.

Dangerous

Sick.

Anyone notice the difference between what she said and Clem?

It's subtle but if you look very very closely you might spot it.

j/c...

I doubt that your post gains any traction.
Our Fellow Dawgs are not necessarily known for their sense of subtlety and nuance.

Its not that much of a nuance.

She wants Trump to die.

Clem wants everyone to die if they dont hide in their house in fear.

j/c

When did the virus breach the Trump bubble? Inside a big Trump mystery

The first sign of trouble sent a wave of worry through President Donald Trump’s team traveling on Air Force One: A beloved top White House aide, Hope Hicks, had fallen ill during a campaign trip to Minnesota.

After a fundraiser early Wednesday evening, Hicks stayed aboard the presidential aircraft as other Trump aides watched the airport rally that evening from the sidelines. She later isolated herself on the plane for the return trip to Washington.

By Thursday morning, Hicks had tested positive for Covid-19 — triggering a frenzy throughout the White House to handle a bombshell that would upend the final month of the 2020 campaign and reshape the president’s posture toward a virus that had already killed more than 208,000 Americans on his watch.

As the White House and campaign scrambled to chart a new plan for October with a hospitalized president, Trump’s aides and medical team were launching their highest-profile contact tracing exercise yet: dissecting the movements and interactions of the president, dozens of aides and perhaps hundreds of supporters throughout a series of widely attended events, from a Supreme Court nominee unveiling last Saturday to the first presidential debate in Ohio on Tuesday to a fundraiser in New Jersey on Thursday, hours after the president already knew about the threat lurking within his team. By Friday afternoon, it remained far from clear whether Hicks or Trump himself or someone else entirely was the source of bringing the virus into the White House bubble.

The result of the sprawling effort carries high stakes for the president in the final stretch of a turbulent year. A detailed contact tracing effort could uncover more positive tests across Trump world, putting more staffers in quarantine with just over four weeks left until Election Day. Yet a failure to successfully recreate the steps of Trump and those in his orbit could allow a constant drip of Covid-19 news in the coming weeks that leaves the administration looking ill-prepared — especially after it faced criticism for a lackluster effort to fund and encourage robust contact tracing systems across the nation.

“It’s just dangerous for everyone,” one White House official said. “They put people’s lives in danger. They’re all trying to get on the same message. Some people are scared. Some people are pissed off because they were put into this position.”

Even Friday, once the world knew about the positive tests for the president, first lady and Hicks, the White House was still struggling to appear like it took the threat of the virus seriously. White House chief of staff Mark Meadows briefed reporters maskless — though most of the White House had been instructed to work from home.

“Why the f--- isn’t Meadows wearing a mask to brief?” another White House official asked.

Some aides were tracing their steps back to the events of the prior weekend, when Trump unveiled his Supreme Court nominee, Amy Coney Barrett, in the White House Rose Garden. Some guests interacted at gatherings both inside and outside the White House before and after the event.

A Friday announcement by Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) of his positive diagnosis led some attendees to wonder whether they may have been exposed there. Hundreds of largely unmasked guests attended the event, some of them seen hugging after the announcement. The University of Notre Dame president, who announced his positive diagnosis on Friday, said he had been tested before the Rose Garden event and “told that it was safe to remove our masks.” (Health officials say the virus could take up to 14 days to lead to a positive test.) Numerous officials who attended Saturday have since tested negative.

Following the Rose Garden ceremony on Saturday, several top aides and close advisers attended a small celebration in the Diplomatic Room of the White House alongside Barrett and her family to celebrate her nomination. Barrett had been diagnosed with Covid-19 over the summer but has since recovered, according to a person familiar with the situation.

On Sunday, the president held a news conference and a private candlelight reception with Gold Star families on the State Floor.

While Trump held other events Monday, including an announcement to repackage an earlier message about his coronavirus testing strategy, attention has focused squarely on a stretch from Tuesday’s presidential debate — which Hicks also attended — to Wednesday’s events in Minnesota to Trump’s Bedminster trip on Thursday.

Ahead of the debate on Tuesday in Cleveland, the president prepared at the White House with personal attorney Rudy Giuliani and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie. Aides and family members then traveled with Trump to Ohio to square off with Biden.

Speaking on ABC Friday morning, Christie said no one wore masks while in the room with the president as he got ready for the debate. Christie also said he tested negative on Friday.

Notably missing in Tuesday’s debate hall was Republican National Committee chair Ronna McDaniel, who tested positive for the virus on Wednesday after a family member also tested positive. (She had been at home in Michigan last Saturday, the RNC said. A day earlier, last Friday, McDaniel and GOP Rep. Elise Stefanik of New York had visited the Trump 2020 headquarters. according to a campaign staffer.)

Later Tuesday night on the debate stage, the president said wearing a mask is “OK,” arguing he wears one “when needed.” But then he went on to mock the former vice president for excessive mask wearing.

“I don’t wear masks like him. Every time you see him he’s got a mask,” Trump said of Biden.

The same attitude was reflected by most members of Trump’s own family, who took off their masks after walking into the debate hall. The first lady did wear a mask during the debate.

Asked about the atmosphere of mask-wearing in the White House, one White House official said: “Some people wear them because they think it’s important. And I think some are probably embarrassed to wear them because there are some who think it’s dumb and they’re pretty loud about that.”

A person close to the White House added that staffers have been trying to follow Trump’s lead and his profound skepticism about the importance of mask-wearing. “It had less to do with weakness and more to do with reflecting the president’s behavior,” the person said. “The president’s behavior has a large impact on the staff.”

On Wednesday night, staffers started sensing that one of the closest people in Trump’s orbit was ill. The president traveled to Duluth, Minn. — for a fundraiser at a private home followed by a campaign rally — with a group of aides that included chief of staff Meadows and senior advisers Hicks, Stephen Miller and Derek Lyons.

Trump only spoke for about 45 minutes at the rally that night, an unusually short amount of time for the president’s freewheeling speeches. When asked why the rally was brief, one aide scoffed and said it was still 47 minutes long. Still, reporters traveling with Trump that night were struck by the short length of his speech — often the president will speak without a prompter for over 90 minutes.

On the flight back, Hicks displayed symptoms, according to a person familiar, and self-quarantined aboard Air Force One. She had traveled with the first family on Marine One earlier in the day.

The next morning, a Covid test came back positive.

News of Hicks’ diagnosis was closely held among a small group of aides at the White House. Press secretary Kayleigh McEnany held a briefing for reporters late Thursday morning at the White House, and has said she did not learn that Hicks tested positive for the coronavirus until later that afternoon.

But soon after that news, the president was back aboard Marine One heading to another event. Some aides had been pulled from the trip as top White House officials grappled with the implications and sent some staffers home.

Only a handful of officials — including Tony Ornato, Brian Jack, John McEntee and Judd Deere — traveled with Trump to New Jersey, where the president gathered among dozens of donors outdoors at his Bedminster golf club.

That night, Trump said in a taped message to the Al Smith dinner that “the end of the pandemic is in sight.”

Hours later, as word of Hicks’ positive test results spread publicly, Trump went on Sean Hannity’s Fox News program to discuss her situation and say he was awaiting his own test results.

“The first time I realized that something was up with him personally was the Hannity hit,” one White House official said. “He did sound a little different. … He just sounded a little bit congested to me.”

Trump announced his own results in a tweet early Friday morning, just before 1 a.m.

Anita Kumar and Gabby Orr contributed to this report.

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There's a picture floating around of everyone who got covid that attended the Barret announcement. Kellyanne was sitting in the middle of a triangle of three others that tested positive for covid.

I think the Barret get together became a superspreader event. If so, there's a lot to unpack with that.

This is the image. Those circled in red were confirmed covid cases. Others have been identified since this image was first annotated.

Who knows who else has it.

That foto screams irresponsibility. How much does 1 mask cost? How much do days of inpatient care cost?

An abject failure of leadership.

And they spread it to Cleveland.