DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Feds say they thwarted militia plot to kidnap [Mich. Gov] Whitmer

Oh jeesh. More tripe. So who is it they feel promotes a a socialist and oppressive government? Republicans? Which party did they target? Who would be the one president they feel most closely resembles their views?

It seems as though you love to accuse others of what you yourself are guilty of.

j/c

Two of those arrested were actually in the statehouse armed earlier this year when the statehouse was stormed by these lunatics.

Men charged in plot to kidnap Gov. Whitmer spotted in photo at Capitol gun rally

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/m...lly/5931604002/

And with even further attempts of intimidation, armed protestors gathered on the state house lawn again yesterday.

Heavily Armed Protesters Gather Again At Michigan Capitol To Decry Stay-At-Home Order

https://www.npr.org/2020/05/14/855918852...cing-home-order

Trump's America.....

"Liberate Michigan!"

He sends out a call to arms for the crazy while those who support him make every excuse in the world to claim it's not so.

And people wonder why I keep telling liberals to arm themselves.

j/c...

Yikes.

He's hoping it's somehow not true.

"The terrorists have always been nice to me."

Dar thinks they were just going to arrest her!

Aside from the FBI records where one guy suggests they just knock on the door and when she answers, shoot her in the head.

Yeah, I dunno man....

I probably just shouldn't try to wrap my head around this. Pointless to try to understand.

So he claims he hasn’t read up on the situation, yet cites a very specific regulation in the government in an attempt to defend what these guys did.

I hope the FBI is monitoring this sheriff.

The attempted kidnappers called her a tyrant. I'm not saying I agree with it, but that is the ideology they were acting on.

Where did you get white supremacism from? How did you get there from a plan to kidnap a white woman?

They didn't like her shutting down the economy which they saw as fascist.

They're not all there upstairs, but that is how they appear to have been thinking.

I don't agree with any of their thinking, but I didn't really see a racial component either. I get that you don't want bad associations to go with antifa, but terrorists exist with all kinds of jacked up ideologies, even ones with labels you agree with.

I'm sorry it doesn't fit your neatly tied narrative or political agenda.

They don't like Trump either. Perhaps you should actually do some research.

That doesn't fit the narrative though.

Was just having a discussion with my daughter and wife, not over an hour ago.

Daughter was telling me how much she read about Trump, and how terrible he was. I said "as a person, yes. But we didn't vote for a preacher of the u.s."

She started rattling off things, and I simply asked her where she got that info. College, all the t.v. stations.

Sat down with her and went over the headlines from just today. I explained how biased, and deceptive the head lines were. And I guarantee, on yahoo's home page, on cnn.......not 1 single article that was even neutral on Trump, let alone positive. Every one was negative. In the headline especially. "Read the articles for facts, not narratives. Don't believe what you read, read the facts."

And I got 'well, trump did....' 'Trump lies' I explained each and every thing - from MY point of view, obviously.

She learned some new things today. She might still vote for biden, I don't know, but at least she found out what she's force fed MAY not be true. The discussion about farmers was precious. "dad, he's hurting the farmers" I agreed, BUT explained why, in as much detail as I could........it's the only weapon, short of war, we have against the chinese. Everyone HERE wants to be paid more, so they can buy stuff made in china for less. Pay ME more, so I can spend my money on products NOT made here.

I then asked her to talk to some local farmers we know. "Ask them if they know whats going on, and why." She won't do that, and I don't blame her. But I have.

This is what this adminstration has brought to us.

divided..... Hatred... Bigotry.... Racism....

death....... shame..... disgrace

You didn't even vote for a decent human being as president. Your daughter has it right and you keep trying to convince her otherwise. Voting for the nastiest candidate possible doesn't make you a good guy and spewing propaganda to your daughter doesn't really accentuate your parenting skills.

She's an adult now. Your 18 years of programming her are over. It obviously didn't work.

I've done my research. Thus far I have seen "one of them" say they don't like Pocapornstar. There are Republican governors who also imposed lock downs. There are like minded militia groups all over this nation. I have yet to see a plot against any of those Republican governors.

Republicans "claim" to be for smaller government. Smaller government is what these groups claim to believe in. Maybe it's not me who should be doing their homework.

Gee, thank you, Mr. Supreme Leader.

Here's the deal: I don't care what you think.

Myself, my wife, and our daughter had a DISCUSSION. You know, we spoke to each other. No slamming each other, no raised voices. Smiles the whole time. She asked questions, I answered them as I saw fit. She made points, and I agreed with some.

I was doing no 'programming'. And spewing propaganda? ??? Doesn't 'accentuate' my parenting skills? Who the hell are YOU to tell me that?

We had a DISCUSSION. Believe it or not, that's what a good relationship is about. And I'm a damn fine parent. I don't need any advice from a person that doesn't know me, only knows my political leanings. As someone on here is famous for saying "kick rocks", Kick rocks.

Awe. You had a political discussion to try and influence her political views. You lost. It's amazing what our children to can grow up to understand once they get out of the bubble they've been contained in.

I really think you're sick.

And by the way, ANYTIME you have a discussion with your kid, it's a win. Apparently you are nothing like me in regards to parenting.

Or in life, really. Thanks for your advice.

It sounds like you need it.

I'm not the one trying to convince my daughter that voting for a man who cheats on three different wives, claims it's okay if he grabs women by the genitals, lies daily, still calls women disgusting names and is undermining our election process is the proper choice as the leader of the free world. I actually have more respect for women than to ever suggest that to a woman.

I mean since you brought up being sick and all.

i wonder what information Barr had with regards to this situation.

odd that he hasn't commented on this yet. he's more than vocal about literally anything else.

My daughter knows all that, as do I. I covered that in my first post.

In your never ending quest to make me out to be a bad person, bad parent, etc. I feel you don't have a clue what you're saying about yourself. While I don't know you well enough to say for sure, narcissist comes to mind. An inherent desire to be right, on everything.

Just observations. It sounds like you're trying to endorse a candidate who has bragged about sexual assault, has cheated on all three of his wives and had to pay off a porn star as well as a playboy bunny. Who is trying to undermine our elections and lies several times a day.

Sometimes facts don't sound good. Sometimes you love to point the finger at someone else when confronted with those facts. that's called deflection arch. It's the only arrow you have left in your quiver.

As I said, I would never try and convince a female that's okay.

Just because you avoid the things Trump has done and try to portray someone else as being flawed when they point them out to you, speaks volumes as one of many reasons your daughter is probably voting for Biden.

Why would she vote for a man who has consistently treated women like piles of crap?

Also, pit, you're famous for your old 'escape' clause of "I treat others how they treat me" when you attack someone.

Here, you made it personal, in this thread. I will not reciprocate the lunacy you portray, other than to say if I called you a bad person, or a bad parent, and brought your kid into it, and called you a failure, what would you do?

I already know. Some people have class. Some apparently don't.

You brought your kid into it. I replied to it. Don't lie. Still avoiding every point made I see. Deflection king?

You're over the line, dude.

Do you tell the women in your household they should support a man as president that has boasted about the sexual assault of women, cheated on three wives and to this day calls women nasty names? I didn't think so....

He is, but sadly, the narcissist in him will not permit him to stop.

Awe. The guy who proposes his own child votes for a person who brags about sexually assaulting women talks about someone else being over the line. That's so sweet.

No, I don't. I also don't tell my wife and daughter who to vote for, as apparently you DO?

Nah, I have discussions with my wife and daughter. About who I feel is best to lead the country, not who would make the best preacher, or even a good example of who to be as a person, as was, GET THIS: Discussed yesterday with my daughter and wife. Imagine that??? But, you can't, I know.


You seem to want to vote for pastor, which you might be able to do in your church, I don't know.

I don't look to the president to be anything other than someone that holds country first. If my daughter needs an example of how a man/husband should be, as was, get this, DISCUSSED last night, she need look no further than me, and my dad, and her uncles. If you need the president to set the example for your daughter, you failed, bud. You failed. (remember, YOU are the one that prides himself on giving what he gets. Here you go.)

Would it be ideal if the president were an ideal person/husband? Sure.

You won't get the last word in here, on this one. I will keep going until the thread is locked. YOU made it personal, not me. You will not sit behind your keyboard and bully me on this. Period.

PRIME example of who you are, right there.

What you apparently can't grasp - no OBVIOUSLY can't grasp, is that is NOT what we discussed. Reading is great. Comprehension of what one reads is even better.

You're digging yourself a hole and the whole board is watching.

So you were advocating she vote for Biden?

All most are expecting at this point is a president who isn't pond scum. That's how low the bar is set now. You make up every excuse in the world to promote pond scum. Nobody is asking that a pastor be president. There is no perfect person nor perfect candidate.

But there should be some minimum expectation of human decency involved. You're trying to use every excuse in the book why there shouldn't.

For years I saw you post about personal responsibility. Now you're avoiding that by trying to make excuses why no matter what Trump does or says, that's okay and you're not responsible for condoning that through your vote. You are. You're promoting hate, division, nastiness and a man who thinks cheating on your wife is normal. How bragging about sexual assault makes you some kind of a man. For God's sake man at least step up to the plate and own it.

It's just sad.

I'm glad the board is watching. They're watching you sell your soul and the principals you have claimed to hold dear down the river.

I still post about personal responsibility, so you failed yet again.

Yet, you endorse someone that brags about kids touching him, and sitting on his lap. How he liked it. And can't keep his hands off young girls, sniffing their hair, etc.

2 faced much?

Like I said, YOU made this personal. You got it.

I'll ask you again..... Were you trying to make Trump look better during your discussion by trying to downplay the things Trump is accused of? You've already posted which way you were trying to use your influence from the beginning. No need to backtrack now.

No, and neither did Arch. Read the post.

Until it comes to your vote.



As usual you bring a knife to a gun fight. You do realize kids sit on Santa's lap too, right? All you really have here is him sniffing hair.

And you're trying to compare that to bragging about sexual assault and cheating on three wives.



You sound like someone who doesn't like children.

He was trying to downplay Trump's bad behavior. He is doing it now. He claims that all of these things he's done has nothing to do with anything. That he is endorsing and voting for a man who brags about sexual assault and cheated on three wives.

Come on man. At the end of it he said something to the effect, "she may still vote for Biden"... so what exactly is it you think he said and what ends was he trying to achieve again?

Are you DENSE? GO READ MY DAMN ORIGINAL POST!!! And what I've said in later posts. My God man, you just don't get it!!! Larry.

Geesh! GO READ IT!!!! Or the other posts where you constantly bring it up.

You're losing this one. You made it personal. I'm using your motto against you on this one........but it's tough, since you constantly change your argument and apparently can't comprehend the written word. MY written words. I know, I made it tough for you. I stated, several times, in this thing called a 'sentence', maybe that made it tough for you?

YOU made it personal.

I wasn't aware we were having a weapons fight. Are you threatening me?

YOU made it personal. Suck it up and admit it.

I had a discussion with my wife and daughter. That's a GOOD thing, and you go all off the rails. Have you taken a cognitive test recently?