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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
He was trying to downplay Trump's bad behavior. He is doing it now. He claims that all of these things he's done has nothing to do with anything. That he is endorsing and voting for a man who brags about sexual assault and cheated on three wives.

Come on man. At the end of it he said something to the effect, "she may still vote for Biden"... so what exactly is it you think he said and what ends was he trying to achieve again?



Further evidence you still don't get it. Narcissist is definitely in play now.

You started it bud, be a man and admit it. Fat chance, I know.

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So far you have tossed about "narcissist","lunacy", claimed I was "bullying you", "classless", Larry, and I could go on.

People would have to be blind to not see what you were trying to do...

"Nah, I have discussions with my wife and daughter. About who I feel is best to lead the country"..... Which is fine. But let's look at what you were trying to do. What your goal was. You were trying to convince her to vote for Trump. Because the comment in your original post said you thought... "She still may vote for Biden".

So yes, you have made it obvious that your goal was to change her vote over to Pocapornstar.

Now you keep up with your fake outrage. Now you're backpedaling.

From the name calling to the back peddling I must say, Pocapornstar has taught you well.


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Narcissist is definitely in play now.

You started it bud, be a man and admit it. Fat chance, I know.


This look isn't becoming of you.....

willynilly flamingmad


rofl


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
At the end of it he said something to the effect, "she may still vote for Biden"... so what exactly is it you think he said and what ends was he trying to achieve again?



I don't THINK he said this....he DID say it:

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"Read the articles for facts, not narratives. Don't believe what you read, read the facts."

And I got 'well, trump did....' 'Trump lies' I explained each and every thing - from MY point of view, obviously.

She learned some new things today. She might still vote for biden, I don't know, but at least she found out what she's force fed MAY not be true."


It sure isn't the arm twisting and poor parenting you're implying here. It sounds like a father having a respectful political conversation with his daughter, giving good advice about looking for facts and not being influenced by propoganda. You should be ashamed of yourself.


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I know exactly what his goal was and you do to. To influence her vote in the election.


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Giving what I get bud. Deal with it. Call me a bad parent? Issues bud. You could apologize, but your narcissism won't let you. Sad.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
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Narcissist is definitely in play now.

You started it bud, be a man and admit it. Fat chance, I know.


This look isn't becoming of you.....

willynilly flamingmad


rofl
Posting while looking in a mirror and ignoring what you see is a real talent of yours.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I know exactly what his goal was and you do to. To influence her vote in the election.


Incorrect yet AGAIN. It was a conversation. Try having one with someone sometime. It's fun.

But, it's pit. That won't happen.


You started it by making it personal, and I'm not having it. You get what you give, and you can't deal with it.

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You can’t bring up your family and make it personal if you don’t want your family to be discussed. While I agree there are limits, you opened yourself up with your own posts.

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Got it.

To call me a poor parent, to say I failed while having a DISCUSSION with my daughter, to say I was programming my daughter and failed, to say that I voted for someone that said the things he said AND not only insinuate I support that, but to SAY I support that, is pathetic.

There is much more. I brought up my daughter, correct. I'll be sure to never do that again. I brought up my daughter because she was going off the lib talking points.


HE made it personal, not me. And I know you and he are friends. That's great. HE made it personal, not me. I'm giving him what he brags about doing to others, and I won't stop.

Anyone that calls me a bad, or poor parent, will get the same. I can deal with differences in opinion. I will not let larry get the last word on this. Ever. He's wrong.

Having a discussion with your kid, an honest discussion, is a good thing. In NO way is it a bad thing. Ever.

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I'm glad the board is watching. They're watching you sell your soul and the principals you have claimed to hold dear down the river.


https://www.independentsentinel.com/its-confirmed-kamala-harris-slept-her-way-to-the-top/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...ter/2695143002/

https://madworldnews.com/kamala-sex-scandal-aide/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...llie-Brown.html

That's what you obviously endorse, as you are voting for biden/harris. You support sleeping your way to the top. Pathetic of you.

And yes, by your standards, voting for them means you endorse sleeping your way to the top. I'm not surprised.

The only damn reply you can have is 'I don't endorse sleeping your way to the top, and I apologize for saying you endorse Trumps personal antics", OR "I do endorse sleeping your way to the top, and I do endorse a pedophile for president."

Deal with it. You give, you get.

Do you endorse sleeping your way to the top?

Do you endorse Harris's record on prosecution? Be careful there.

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Breaking news: Conservative white male accuses black woman of sleeping her way to the top.

you gonna accuse your daughter of doing the same thing when she gets her first big job, or does that only apply to women of color?

the fact that you played victim through all these post dealing with your daughter, only to post some straight up sexist crap is.....to be expected.

MY daughters would be ashamed of me if ever thought like this.

which is probably why your daughter clearly blew you off after your "discussion." glad she doesn't think like you.



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Breaking news: Conservative white male accuses black woman of sleeping her way to the top.

you gonna accuse your daughter of doing the same thing when she gets her first big job, or does that only apply to women of color?

the fact that you played victim through all these post dealing with your daughter, only to post some straight up sexist crap is.....to be expected.

MY daughters would be ashamed of me if ever thought like this.

which is probably why your daughter clearly blew you off after your "discussion." glad she doesn't think like you.



Seriously? No you have to bring this into it? Facts stand: Kamala got her jobs by 'dating' the mayor.

And then you proceed to bring my daughter into it? Classless on your part, but, along with pit, I wouldn't guess any different from you, or him.

I'm not a victim. Your buddy pit made it personal, and you just did as well. I'm sure your daughters would be ashamed of you. I'll stop there. I have class.

I voted for trump, and because of that I get labeled a racist, and some few idiots think I endorse cheating, etc. Idiots.

I return the idiocy and then you jump in as well? Apparently you support women having to sleep their way to the top. Just using your logic here bud. And you support someone sniffing young girls hair, and groping them. I bet your daughters would be proud of you.

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bro you're making sexist accusations right now.

there's no situation here where you get to be a victim.

everything pit said was aimed as an indictment toward you, which after this sexist attack, now looks absolutely warranted.

so im simply asking what the standard is. are you gonna accuse your daughter of sleeping her way to the top, or does it only apply to women of color you don't politically agree with?

whats the standard? all i ever ask.


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i mean hell, im curious as to what you told your daughter about THIS topic.

maybe Whitmer was asking for it? what was she wearing?


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I'm not a victim, so get that through your skull.

I brought up a CONVERSATION

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A conversation WE had.

I didn't create the facts of Kamala, she did.

I have class, and don't bring kids into it. I stated a fact. A factual CONVERSATION we had. Period.

Pit wanted to make it more, and now you do as well. Well, here goes: You support your daughter sleeping their way to the top, as well as support a man that learned to love kids when they rubbed his legs, and sat on his lap.

The vid's are out there. You wanna accuse me of jack ass stuff? I play fair bud, just as pit claims he does (which he doesn't. He changes tack on almost every post)

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Originally Posted By: Swish
i mean hell, im curious as to what you told your daughter about THIS topic.

maybe Whitmer was asking for it? what was she wearing?


This goes without saying, but to satisfy you, I'm glad they jack wads got caught, and no, my daughter and I have not discussed it, because there is no need to. She knows that as well.

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lol arch, if you want to go down that road, we can have a blast!

Donald Trump's unsettling record of comments about his daughter Ivanka

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...p-a7353876.html

you support a guy who wants to smash his own daughter.

not me, not pit.

you.

yuck.


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You are the only one on here that has bragged about "smashing" someone.

Bottom line, pit made it personal, and you took over for him.

I'm not a bad parent. As he said. I had a discussion with my daughter, which is a good thing. We'll have many more, just as we have in the past. Try as you and pit may, that isn't going to change.

Good luck explaining to your daughters how sleeping their way to the top isn't the way to do it, when you endorse someone that did it, and endorse someone that has b.............never mind.

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you support a guy who wants to smash his own daughter.

bro guys like you voted for Roy Moore in alabama.

yuck.

the stuff you're willing to look past. it raises questions, just saying.


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you're looking past some banjo in the woods kinda stuff.

i mean come on, it raises questions.


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I don't have a vote in Alabama. Thanks for pigeon holing me though.

Let's get back to the start of this. WE had a discussion, me, wife, daughter, in which she said her peace, and I/we replied with our thoughts. Somehow, idiot turned that into me mandating my thoughts/beliefs onto my daughter, which couldn't be further from the truth if the pinhead tried.

Then I was called a bad dad, and a poor parent.

I do that to you, what would you do?

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well for the record, you're not a bad parent. its from me so take it for what its worth.

i think you and i already been down that road when we first interacted years ago, so you and i already have an unwritten rule about kids.

however, ethics seem to be fluid, so...i dunno. what you and pit are arguing about, thats on yall. from MY perspective, i became intrigued once you accused harris of sleeping her way to the top while arguing about bad parenting.

i mean...bro are you not teaching your daughter about gender stereotypes women have to deal with in the workforce, one of the main ones centered around them sleeping their way to the top?

when a massive contradiction like that pops up, people notice.

so i understand why you felt the need to get defensive with Pit. however, i gotta be real; my comments toward you are on similar wavelengths, just very specific to you and not your daughter.

Pit's comments aren't aimed at her either. he doesn't talk trash about her at all. his comments are aimed at you as a parent, as are mine, just for different reasons.

this is centered around politics. no one is accusing you of not teaching your daughter how to be an adult or tie her shoes, or any of that.




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Well anyways,

I was waiting for guys like Memphis to post more info since they like posting everything else in defense of right wing terrorism, but since that hasn’t happened:



1000 bucks says atleast two of them have been to a klan rally.


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Well anyways,

I was waiting for guys like Memphis to post more info since they like posting everything else in defense of right wing terrorism, but since that hasn’t happened:



1000 bucks says atleast two of them have been to a klan rally.


The others just showed up on the wrong night.


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Daughter was telling me how much she read about Trump, and how terrible he was. I said "as a person, yes. But we didn't vote for a preacher of the u.s."


So this was a part of "your discussion"? Here's where you lose all credibility and where I'm 100% correct in my claim you are trying to sway her vote. So you can stop lying now.

What part of this are you missing? This man lied in his oath to God three times

You minimized that if you can't even trust a man to tell God the truth, how can you trust him to tell you the truth? If he has no fear of lying to God, why would he care how much he lies to you? And it's not as if he didn't know he was wrong. He knew it. So much so in fact he had to pay at least two women we know of, one a porn star and one a playboy bunny to silence his wrongs.

After his wife had just given birth to his son, he cheated on her.

This speaks to his lack of character. It speaks to him being a despicable human being. It speaks to a man who uses his power and his wealth to do what he wants to who he wants. It's who he is.

And rather than be honest with your own child about that, you play some sly BS about "We didn't vote for a preacher of the U.S."?

You were minimizing what a crap person Trump really is to sell him to your own daughter. Hopefully she's smart enough to see your bias. To see you'll make any excuse to advocate the nastiest human being we've ever seen remains president. That you are making excuses for a man who treats her gender as a used piece of trash.

And all you have are lame excuses for it in some attempt to use your influence as a parent to get her to vote for this pond scum.


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You're over the line, dude.


rofl How is that possible? a line doesn’t exist here. Family is open game. Trump crosses that line everyday. People here support trump. So family is open game here period.


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Watch the deplorables paint them as Antifa soon. Hell the KKK and white supremacy is Antifa now. Pfffft trump and his supporters


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Well anyways,

I was waiting for guys like Memphis to post more info since they like posting everything else in defense of right wing terrorism, but since that hasn’t happened:



1000 bucks says atleast two of them have been to a klan rally.


The others just showed up on the wrong night.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I know exactly what his goal was and you do to. To influence her vote in the election.


You weren't there. You don't really know either. You weren't around while she was raised.

You've got issues, man...


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"We didn't vote for a preacher of the u.s." When that's your explanation for a man who brags about sexual assault and lies in his oath to God when he marries all three of his wives? A man that to this day lies to America every day and is such a nasty human being? Wake the hell up.


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You're jumping all over someone for having a rational political conversation with their kid. You're creating a narrative that paints him as this monster that's (by all available evidence), not true at all. You don't care how much you have to slander and mislead, so long as you hammer the point that whoever that disagrees with any political point you make is evil, deplorable.

While we certainly have 'personnel' issues in the highest political positions that we need to take of shortly, raining fire on rational political discourse is the biggest problem we have right now. It's a big part of what got Trump where he is now.


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"We didn't vote for a preacher of the u.s."

I guess this is what passes as rational. I'm quoting what he said. In case you missed it, that's not slander.

The discourse was elected. And as you can see, it's being minimized and rationalized in an effort to downplay the extent of which it has infected our nation.

There's nothing "rational" about that.


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I'm talking about where you're saying he's "programming" his kid, where it's obvious he isn't. I'm done re-hashing the slapfight that's been going on for like 2 pages. Anyone that can take 2 big steps back can see these pages are a summary of where the populace is (in terms of political discourse) in this country right now. When you have so many words being flung back and forth, with so little actual discourse happening, Trump is what you get. Trump being a terrible human being stands on its own, and is deservedly called out. It's all the 'after the whistle' stuff that is unnecessary.

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well y'all can continue poo pooing all over each other with that.

i will continue to bring up the FACT that there is a reason why the FBI consistently comes out and says domestic terrorism, specifically with right wing extremism, tends to be the biggest threat in this country.

we can play the both sides nonsense, but one side has HISTORICALLY been the worst of the worst, and that's these rightwing wanna be Rambo losers.

look at those mugshots. guaranteed to be about 1000 hours of jordan peterson videos watched between all of them.


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Yeah, Trump himself and his minions trying to normalize his actions, words and behavior have nothing to do with it. There's a "what caused it to escalate" debate in there somewhere.

There used to be debates of at least some substance over policy and ideology. Now they're about a cult of personality.

Maybe it's more a case of When Trump is what you get, you have so many words being flung back and forth, with so little actual discourse happening, rather than the other way around.


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Maybe it's more a case of When Trump is what you get, you have so many words being flung back and forth, with so little actual discourse happening, rather than the other way around.



That's an interesting argument. That would indicate that a lot of the craziness will go away fairly quickly once Trump is voted out. If Biden is elected, do you see that happening?


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In some ways yes and in some ways no. The back and forth itself will still be there. But when one looks at the actual subject matter, I don't see the intensity of it being there. I'll give you a couple of examples.

When you point out what a liar trump is, you get responses like, "Biden lied about where he went to school!". Now I don't know about you, but I don't feel that's an issue that's worthy of a lot of discussion. So no, I don't think the back and forth would be so intense.

You see, when the subject matter revolves around your president telling people to commit voter fraud by voting twice... When you see him telling his supporters to go to the poles and watch, which is actually against election guidelines and rules, which we all know will create nothing but chaos on election day.... When you have a president who says he may not concede if he loses.... For the president to tell the attorney general to arrest his political opponents.....

We have a president who is undermining our election process. Sowing doubt on our democratic processes. Who has sown nothing but doubt on our own intelligence community and publicly took the word of Putin over their reports. This is maddening.

But then when being totally objective "We didn't vote for a preacher of the u.s.", right?

So no, there won't be an end to political bickering. There won't be an end to the disagreements in policy.

But if you actually feel those disagreements will involve our president trying to destroy the very laws, guidelines and principals this nation has stood for? If you think those disagreements will involve using the power of the DOJ to arrest your political opponents?

So yes, there will still be discourse. The biggest difference is the subject matter won't be about how our president is working his hardest to spread, sow and feed that discourse.


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