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Trump pledges to make Juneteenth a federal holiday, designate KKK a terrorist group in pitch to Black voters


President Trump on Friday made a direct appeal to Black voters with a slew of targeted policy pledges if he's reelected in November, including making Juneteenth a federal holiday and prosecuting the Ku Klux Klan as a terrorist organization.

Trump, speaking to supporters in Atlanta, unveiled what he dubbed the “Platinum Plan” for Black voters, outlining what a second term policy agenda could look like for African Americans. The plan leans heavily on economic proposals, such as tax cuts for minority-owned businesses, further focus on opportunity zones that encourage investment in low-income areas and additional money for broadband and internet access to foster job and educational opportunities.

Certain proposals, such as making Juneteenth, which commemorates the end of slavery, a federal holiday would require congressional approval.

The campaign event, hosted by Black Voters for Trump, featured several prominent Black public figures, including Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson and Heisman Award winner Herschel Walker.

The president, who’s trailing in the polls to Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, has recently upped his courting of Black voters, a crucial voting bloc. The Republican National Convention program last month featured a number of speakers who pushed back against characterizations of the president as a racist.

Biden has a significant lead over Trump among Black voters, but his lead is less substantial than the one former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had in the 2016 general election in which Trump ultimately prevailed.

“No one in Washington politics today has done more to hurt African Americans than Joe Biden,” Trump said, hitting the Democratic nominee for his role in the 1994 crime bill and trade policies that he argued damaged the economy for Black Americans.

The president also hit Biden for his comments earlier this year that if African Americans support Trump, “you ain’t Black.”

Trump has asserted repeatedly that he’s done more for Black Americans than any president other than Abraham Lincoln, who ended the institution of slavery.

“In 39 days we’re going to win four more years of the White House, and we will do it with a record number of votes from the Black community,” Trump said.

The White House has repeatedly pointed to the record low Black unemployment rate prior to the onset of the coronavirus pandemic. In August 2019, the Black unemployment rate fell to a new low of 5.4 percent, but during the pandemic it has ballooned to 13 percent — higher than the national unemployment rate, which is around 8 percent.

In his speech, Trump promised that his second term would feature the creation of 3 million new jobs for the Black community and 500,000 new Black-owned businesses, as well as billions of dollars in increased access to capital.

Data has shown that Black and minority-owned businesses have been the hardest hit by the economic fallout from the pandemic and have received disproportionately less relief from the Paycheck Protection Program, which was created by the CARES Act in March. Black Americans are also seeing a higher rate of coronavirus infections compared to white Americans.

The promise of economic prosperity has been a pillar of Trump’s first term in office, and despite his sagging poll numbers, polls have consistently shown that Americans see him as a good steward of the country’s economy.

In a recent Economist/YouGov poll, 37 percent of respondents said the economy would become better if Trump was reelected, while 32 percent said that it would improve under Biden.

Some of the other proposals in Trump’s plan are at odds with his first four years in office. He vowed to create a national clemency project, though critics have argued that he has so far mostly given pardons and commutations to individuals with White House connections.

The president’s plan also refers to diversity training among police departments to improve community relations. In the last three weeks, Trump has directed federal agencies to stop administering racial sensitivity training or teaching critical race theory, and he announced the creation of a commission to foster “Patriotic Education” that would reject the idea that the U.S. is a historically racist nation.

Polling has consistently shown that voters do not trust Trump on issues related to race, a problem that has worsened for him as the nation has been roiled by months of protests in response to the police killings of Breonna Taylor, George Floyd and Rayshard Brooks.

An NPR/PBS Newshour/Marist poll released last week found 56 percent of likely voters prefer Biden to handle race relations, while 38 percent prefer Trump.

The president has stood firmly with law enforcement and rejected the premise that there is a problem with systemic racism in the United States. His handling of the protests are compounded by his history of incendiary comments, such as reportedly referring to African nations as “shithole countries,” his defense of far-right protesters in Charlottesville, Va., and his role in promoting the birther conspiracy theory about former President Obama.

Trump delivered Friday’s speech in the once reliably red state of Georgia, where two GOP-held Senate seats are on the ballot in November and polls show a tightening presidential race. A New York Times-Siena College survey released last week showed Trump tied with Biden, and a Monmouth University poll had the president up by 2 percentage points.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administrat...terrorist-group

Plan has some good points, good effort by his campaign to entice black voters who might still not totally hate him. I doubt that it works but A for effort on this one... him trying, not his plan.

Everyone knows how much I despise Trump, but I will give him credit for reaching out to the black community. This is better than him standing on stage saying where is my black guy... smh

I also applaud him for saying he will prosecute the KKK as a terrorist organization. Next White Supremacist Militias... But then who will vote for Trump?

If I was a conservative black business man or even just an average Joe that voted Trump in 2016 but did not like his actions to date, I would sit up and listen to this pitch because those are some heavy promises. Liberal blacks would never fall for this.

Another topic started

by one of the few who made so many topics a politics forum was created.
I'll read the article in a minute.

So? What's your point? Nobody's twisting your arm to read or reply.

He could do more.

Trump? Commit to urban schools, initiative, and a campaign (think, winning opinions, (winning as a verb)),

initiative to improve the message for success, and campaign to convince endless success is, more than just possible, but expected.

He has basically not mentioned schools.

Families?

My point is that others don't start as many topics.

Well nobody is stopping them. And maybe I just read more than most on the other side...?

Endless Success? Tell me more. I'd also like to see examples.

A campaign to reinforce mindsets that may or may not already be there, that, the sky's the limit, for, people from, everywhere, even the most troublesome environments.

Dude, we need to improve inner city schools, and I'm not going to get looped into saying they are bad, because they may not be,

but, if there is a mindset that there is an environment that needs to be escaped
then begin a campaign to change that thinking,
among the steps of Reform
of any truth to that thinking.

More astraunauts, less gang members.

Look, if there is never any chance for success,
then more people are just going to take drugs, in an attempt to deal with reality.

But the thing is, I don't think this kind of thing belongs in a reach out to blacks,(ala, Juneteenth holiday) because it's not race specific,
but
the schools,
it'd be great,

OCD look, I think, in 1978, 60% of adults smoked cigarettes, inside, around others, in public restaurants,

We both know it's diferent today,
and we also both know 42 years ain't overnight.

I gave Trump props for the pitch, I just don't believe anything he says. This is what desperation looks like. Let's let the black board members chime in, but it sounds a lot like 40 acres and a mule to me.

Where do you see a handout?

Did I mention a handout? If you are referring to '40 acres and a mule', that was what was promised by the Union Army to blacks who served in the Civil War on the side of the North. They fought, but the promise never materialized.

A good short read about it.

https://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-america...res-and-a-mule/

Exactly-
so why are you still talking about it, sounds like 40 acres and a mule, when nothing in it, is anything like that.

Improvements.

How ?

"Trump has asserted repeatedly that he’s done more for Black Americans than any president other than Abraham Lincoln, who ended the institution of slavery."

It wasn't a handout! It was payment for service and reparations. AND they got beat out of it!

Trump is making promises he can't or won't keep. Period.

He generally keeps his promises, unlike Obama.

And Baddog, I answered at first,
"He could do more" means he could do anything for schools, which hasn't been addressed yet.

OCD, Board,
See this is a case where I got played.
The subject got changed to reparations, 40 acres and a mule, ... And it would be a handout, Today!

subject got changed, this is what one gets when you bring up,

Improvements,
Better opportunities,
Higher expectations,
and Better material being taught, and a change of mindset in regards to urban city school enviroments.
Not Handouts.
Done
Look who doesn't want to improve life.

More people of color should vote Republican.

They have voted democrat for decades and look what it has gotten them. Plantation living.

Seems to me people would want more. If not, they are simply slaves seeking a master.

Trump had almost 4 years to institute a program like this,, But he didn't even talk about it until it was pretty clear he was losing the black vote.

Remember when he said that if elected, he'd get rid of Obamacare and put in a plan that would be better....

I think I remember him saying he would do that on his first day in office.. Still waiting.

And please don't tell me it was the Dems that stopped him. His party controlled the house and the senate at that time..

He didn't need the Dems to do anything.


Oh, question, why is the Right so hell bent on getting right of Obamacare?

Because it has the word Obama in it. If they’d called it Romneycare, like it could have been, they’d not be foaming at the mouth to abolish it.

yeah except the trump is a racist thing.

trump is hell bent on getting rid of anything Obama did. That is one reason the pandemic task force doesnt exist anymore.

Where was Obama & Biden on:

Juneteenth?

Offensive statues?

Prison sentencing reforms on laws/sentencing that unfairly targeted poorer minorities? (Brought to us largely through Biden's hand in the Senate)

Long-term Deals with HBCUs?

Opportunity Zones that are bringing development to disadvantaged communities?

Pre-COVID employment levels for minorities?

Putting and holding a foot on the throat of Iran? Versus sending them pallets of billions in cash?

Legitimizing Israel in the Middle East?

Forcing our "allies" to finally "pay their fair share"?

And now...the Platinum Plan.

Under Obama, people fell in love with his hollow rhetoric and couldn't see what he was doing and what he wasn't doing. All words...no action.

Under Trump, people can't see through the bombastic message delivery and take notice of what is being accomplished...for ALL Americans.

except those 200,000 and counting dead ones

Yep, all on him. How about cancer deaths? Why not pin those on him as well?

silly argument

No, not all of them. I'd guess half. But like he said, he didn't want to panic people,, so they just died... But, hey, they didn't panic...

You don't know that.

Tens of thousands We all know that.

Thus why I said "I'd Guess" I'd also like to point out that you don't know I'm not correct.

Seeing as the experts predicted 2 million or more deaths in this country alone, I guess I'll credit him with saving 800,000 lives.

Go find the experts that said “our best-prediction is 2M deaths....”

Or maybe go read up on the difference between error bars and predictions...

Euphemizing the word prediction now?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/19/coronavirus-projections-us/

Are you trying to prove that no-one said 2-million deaths?

Your article says:

"What happens next depends largely on us — our government, politicians, health institutions and, in particular, 328 million inhabitants of this country — all making tiny decisions on an daily basis with outsize consequences for our collective future."

Which seems accurate regards to isolation, masks and taking precautions.

"In the worst-case scenario, America is on a trajectory toward 1.1 million deaths. That model envisions the sick pouring into hospitals, overwhelming even makeshift beds in parking lot tents. Doctors would have to make agonizing decisions about who gets scarce resources. Shortages of front-line clinicians would worsen as they get infected, some dying alongside their patients. Trust in government, already tenuous, would erode further.

That grim scenario is by no means a foregone conclusion — as demonstrated by countries such as South Korea, which has reduced its new cases a day from many hundreds to a few score with aggressive steps to bolster its health system."

If Americans embrace drastic restrictions and school closures, for instance, we could see a death toll closer to the thousands and breathe a national sigh of relief as we prepare for a grueling but surmountable road ahead.

Then this talking about [1] worst case with no action taken - 1.1 million. [2] better cases by taking action regards healthcare system and isolation and preventative measures ... possibly down to the 1,000's

You did a great point of validating Lyd's point.

Seriously, do you not know the difference between:

ErikInHell - “ experts predicted 2 million or more deaths ”

Article - “In the worst-case scenario, America is on a trajectory toward 1.1 million deaths.”
...
“The grim scenario is by no means a foregone conclusion”
...
“If Americans embrase drastic restrictions and school closures, for instance, we could see a death toll closer to the thousands and breath a national sigh of relief as we prepare for a grueling but surmountable road ahead.”

C’mon — you’re not that dumb..

Edit - Don’t know why this is a response to OldColdDawg....

Of course this went to covid. Eff this I'm out of here.







Good stuff from this administration. Love it.

but trump told us HE saved 2 million lives. It must be true

Nice cut and paste skip. In that same article:

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At the heart of their algorithms is a scary but empowering truth: What happens next depends largely on us — our government, politicians, health institutions and, in particular, 328 million inhabitants of this country — all making tiny decisions on an daily basis with outsize consequences for our collective future.

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In the worst-case scenario, America is on a trajectory toward 1.1 million deaths. That model envisions the sick pouring into hospitals, overwhelming even makeshift beds in parking lot tents. Doctors would have to make agonizing decisions about who gets scarce resources. Shortages of front-line clinicians would worsen as they get infected, some dying alongside their patients. Trust in government, already tenuous, would erode further.

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If Americans embrace drastic restrictions and school closures, for instance, we could see a death toll closer to the thousands and breathe a national sigh of relief as we prepare for a grueling but surmountable road ahead.

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You guys must research like these people.

Yes - you validated Lyd's point again. Well done.

I am living proof that this tired, worn-out trope is a lie.

So is every member of my extended family- people I have written about extensively: college educators, command-level law enforcement officers, career military officers, architects, doctors, artists, business owners- one is even Director of NASA's John Glenn Research Center in Cleveland. For my own individual case, I have spent a lifetime practicing a skill that has placed me onstage with the top 10% of musicians living today, in one of the most cut-throat competitive professions there is.

In fact, no one in my extended orbit is living, or has ever lived a 'plantation life.' And I know a LOT of Black people. Lots and lots of Black People. Probably more Black People than Ballpeen has even met in his life. And all the Black People in my orbit have/had jobs and an education. All contribute/contributed to society. All raise/raised families to aspire higher. In short- The American Dream. I would say that of all the hundreds and hundreds of Black People I have known in my life, about one in fifty voted Republican, and the other 49 seemed to do alright for themselves. That has been my experience. My Black American Experience.

But we should listen to 'Peen, when 'Peen talks about what's good for the Blacks.

The whole "Blacks should vote GOP" thing never gained any traction in my house/family/community. Apparently, the entire GOP message was lost on them, dating back 75 years. These substantial, accomplished, highly educated, inspirational Models of Blackness I've chosen to follow found absolutely nothing of value in the message you are trotting out here. Could it be that they were simply too simple to understand? Doubt it. Some of My People people have PhD's.

And guess what else? My family isn't exceptional in any way. Black Americans all over this country have family histories as impressive and inspirational as mine. Know how we (and so many others) got where we did? I'll let you in on a little secret most Euro-Americans don't know about us... (psssst- lean in close, and lemme whisper this in your ear):

Each generation of American Black People told its progeny: "This world is tough, and life is hard. It's harder for some because of the way it works. If you wish to succeed, you must be twice as smart, twice as prepared, twice as polished, twice as accomplished and twice as determined, if you wish to be considered half as valuable. If you want more than half, you must double those efforts." They started when their kids were little, and they repeated it every day until their kids were big.

This is what My Democrats taught me.

There is nothing 'slave mentality' about a work ethic like that.
Absolutely nothing.

And it's shameful that we live in a country where 13-30% of its citizens need this message to be part of the daily Life Skills they administer to their kids. In a country where "all men are created equal."

Absolutely shameful.


But we should listen to Ballpeen, when he talks about My Family living under a "slave mentality.'"


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I love your post signature. I always have.
I hope you keep its message in mind, as you think about what I've just told you.


clem.

On the one hand I enjoy your eloquent and thoughtful posts that totally shed unique perspectives on issues. I wish more would take them to heart and learn rather than insisting that as White Middle Aged Men they know all the answers without ever having walked a day in someone of color's shoes ....

On the other I can't get the one post you wrote out of my head - I can't remember it exactly right, but you expressed frustration at having explained so many times, over and over during the years, your perspective on some of these racial issues and how continually posters here choose not remember or acknowledge or accept ... and lets face it, we're a small collective so this is probably either posters showing us who they are or choosing to be willfully ignorant.

So, thanks for the post. I think your posts are impactful, probably more than you realize.