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I think if we would have changed up the snap count we could have gotten about a half dozen or so off-sides on them

They weren't calling offsides on the Steelers today.

side note--- we are curently the 6th seed in the playoffs.

That win over the Colts could be big at the end

That is what happens when an offense is one dimensional because the QB is not that good..

Its going to happen with good teams that can defend the run, they are going to challenge the QB to make plays, and capitalize on errors of not so good QBs.

Does it matter... even if we do it we will be the worst team in the playoffs.

Today’s game was a good barometer for a playoff-type game that we’d have to play ... yeah, we ain’t close to there right now

If we make the playoffs and are healthy we have a shot at wining a game.

um we were the worst team in the NFL for the last 15 years. so, yes it does

If the playoffs started today, I believe we’d be going to the #3 seed to play the first weekend ... which would be at Kansas City LOL

Exactly. Let’s not minimize what we can accomplish because the team isn’t a dynasty.

Okay so we're a middle of the pack team as some put it. Say we're between the 15th and 17th best team. That's a lot better than being in the bottom 4 like we've been pretty much the last 10 years or more. Plus we should only get better as we learn the system. We don't have holes all over the roster like we usually do. One more solid draft and FA period and I think we'll be a legit contender. JMO

If I played the Browns I would sell out for the run every play. I would have no fear at all of being beaten by the pass. I wouldn't even care if the Browns hit on a big play or two. I would not change at all.

And this is with a team with the following personnel in the passing game ... OBJ, Landry, Hunt, Hooper, Bryant, Njoku...a QB's dream arsenal.

Man, today feels very crappy. Not very excited about next week. It does not feel like we are 4-2.

Losses are always magnified in the NFL because they only play once a week. We are good enough to beat bad/average teams. The Bengals are bad.

we should beat Cincinnati ... and we might not. We’re pretty injured and have been inconsistent.

It won’t be as easy to run on them this time ... they have Atkins back and we are missing Teller and Chubb.

Burrow is much better than Baker right now, too (and he has his fair share of mistakes too) ... so I anticipate a close game

Good enough to? Yes. Able to not beat a bad or average team? Absolutely.

I think our D will play better than they did in Cinci Round1.

Hoping for anything to stick at the LB position?

Seems like it. I'm glad we're still doing our due diligence. If we find even a single James Harrison/Cameron Wake type guy that was under appreciated by an old team our entire defensive unit would dang near double.

Which one can replace Sendejoe? Not sure why we are not helping ourselves more.

So, Joe Woods should be familiar with him, right? This guy should be able to almost step right in, if he's good enough to do so.

I was thinking they may have brought him in to help on Special teams and anything beyond that would be gravy. But, I'm just guessing.

Question. I'm not picking up the posts on Pdawg and Grateful dawg. Can anyone tell me why?

Slow to load. It took me about 20 seconds to get them to pop up.

Not sure why but this is the text of the tweet.

The #Browns  have claimed LB Elijah Lee via waivers from Detroit. 

Lee is 6-3 and 230 pounds and in his fourth NFL season. He's appeared in 42 career games with the 49ers and Lions and has recorded 67 tackles, a sack and 2 forced fumbles on defense w/ 10 career ST tackles.

picked up your last post. Thanks

Do you have an ad blocker? I have to turn it off to see posts like those.

Browns Roster 2020???

How about 2021,...

Travis Etienne, RB Clemson, Pretty dang good!

You can't have too many good players.

Here we are at the bye week...5-3...should feel good...and it does and it doesn't.

Offense

I think all we really need here is to get healthy and keep developing the game plan and play. I DO think we need to focus on acquiring taller & bigger WRs going forward. BM is 6' tall and Landry, Taylor & Beckham are all < 6' tall. Look at the size of the Bengal and Steeler receivers.

Defense

We have too many holes to fix just at the trade deadline. Any trades we DO make need to be for more than just the rest of this year. We aren't (1) or (2) players away on D from being a playoff team..we are - at least - (6) away.

DT

Billings being out has turned out to be the problem that we thought it could be. I really like Larry O, but he's not a run-stopper, a block-eater or a penetrator...or a starter. It's time to move on there. Richardson has been a treat to watch and I think Elliot has a future. The rest are practice squad talent that have already proven that they just aren't NFL DTs.

DE

We have Myles and Porter and an injured/aging/aged Clayborn. I'm not listing Vernon here...see below. We can't get off the filed WITH Myles in the lineup.

Stand-Up DE in a 4-3 thinks he's a LB

What is with Vernon playing like an OLB in a 3-4? Why is he "in coverage" for anything other than the QB? WTH is Woods doing here? We don't have enough DEs to compete and one of our "starters" there looks and plays like a poor 3-4 OLB. If he's out for a play, does his replacement also line up like a 3-4 OLB? I realize that he had two sacks vs the Raiders...doesn't change my opinion. He was just the best, bad-DE we had yesterday once Myles went away.

LB

My goodness. We knew going in that this would be an issue...and that was BEFORE injuries set in. A healthy Philips wouldn't make Takitaki understand how to play LB or help Mack cover a chair. And NO!...grossly overpaying an equally-flawed Shobert wasn't the answer. The Takitaki experiment needs to end and go the way of Chad Thomas. Mack should be viewed as a ST player...although we just picked up a ST, LB last week. We don't have ONE guy at LB that I think we can count on.

S

We have Harrison...and...well...Harrison. Delpit's injury and Redwine's inability to get on the field have been a problem

CB

Greedy being out has been an issue. The group isn't awful...but the depth is crazy shallow.

Conclusion

I'm not blaming Berry & Co here...or even Woods (too much)...but 'it is what it is'. We had waaaaay too many holes to fill going in to this year (sort of like every year STR). We shouldn't get too crazy today with trades unless the player(s) is a longer-than-just-this-year fix...we have too many holes.

In years past I've wondered why we don't more-aggressively sign other teams PS guys and this year is no different...except I'm not looking for players on "O" today....or at all for that matter.

It's time to move on from guys Like Larry O, Takitaki and Tae Davis...those guys were 'developmental' guys who simply haven't developed. Sure...other guys have been just as - or more - disappointing, but they are filing a role that we KNEW was likely over their head - aka Sendejo, Goodson, Mack.

We should be looking to poach PS players from teams with good DL & LB play. IMO we have (3) guys we could release tomorrow to open roster spots and not miss a beat.

I'll add to that that we need to see what we have in Redwine, Moffat and a couch at Safety to see what we have. When your defense can't force a punt to save it's life, I get no warmfuzzies knowing that guys (who we've seen repeatedly NOT do the job) be in the game for the sake of communication and getting guys lined up.

This is the craziest 5-3 team ever. If we make the playoffs it will ONLY be due to COVID BS. We don't have much to lose by getting this defensive overhaul in motion asap.

NOTE: I understand that teams can't just plug a guy in and see what he does...but at the DT and LB spots I mentioned above, we have guys who could step in and start (Elliot) and the LBs I'd waive aren't starters - or really even contributors - anyway.

Hope he surprises and finds a permanent home. It's along shot but stranger things have happened.... I do like that he tackles and doesn't try to hit.

Houston Texans claim RB Dontrell Hilliard off waivers from the Browns

https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2020/12/...rom-the-browns/

The Houston Texans have successfully claimed running back Dontrell Hilliard off waivers from the Cleveland Browns. The move was made official on the NFL’s transaction wire on Tuesday.

Hilliard was waived by the Browns over the weekend in order to make room on the roster for Wyatt Teller when the starting right guard was activated from the reserve/COVID-19 list. Any hope of bringing Hilliard back to the practice squad was thwarted when the Texans claimed him.

In Houston, Hilliard rejoins former Browns teammate Duke Johnson in the backfield. They were together in Cleveland in 2018, Hilliard’s first season with the Browns. In 30 games over three seasons with the Browns, Hilliard had 22 carries for 97 yards and 22 receptions for 199 yards. He also saw some action as the team’s return specialist.

Good luck to Hilliard. There’s a logjam at the position here obviously.

On another note, the Texans love them some ex-Browns

I read a couple mock drafts this morning...so much more fun to do that in December for poops-and-giggles than out of desperation for some hope for the future...anyway...

These mocks included some likely-fantasy free agent acquisitions that I don't think will happen...and had lots of players I'm not really familiar with due to the herky-jerky nature of college football this year. Reading these mocks got me thinking...more so about our existing roster and less so about the actual players that we might pick in the spring...hang with me a little longer here...

We know the defense needs help...let's look at the potential help - already on the team - through healthy-ness and Browns-colored glasses:

The DL gets Billings back next year (a proven commodity, if limited) and Weaver (as a promising prospect);

The LB group gets...well...a healthy Phillips? And...I dunno;

The S room gets Delpit and a full season of Harrison;

The CB room adds Greedy and a full off-season of AJ Green;

The OL gets Forbes and Gossett(development guys that I thought had a shot at the 53 before camp opt-outs.)

Most of the guys in bold were on the roster and were thought to be contributors at the start of the season...Weaver was a free draft pick and Green a coveted FA. The thought of Billings/Phillips/Delpit helping each level of the defense is a pleasant one. Then....

We have the following picks 1,2,3,3,4,4,5,6,7. That's (4) of the top (96) AND the free agency period where we may now be a preferred destination. We don't need a QB, RB, LT or any OL for that matter...or/but maybe a WR (but we have lots to choose from there and the ?OBJ?).

With a reasonable FA season, we just might be in a position - for the first time in forever and maybe STR - to really let the draft come to us. (I am purposely avoiding using the words that represent BPA.)

I don't really have any definitive draft-eligible players in mind to talk about...just getting a little excited about our existing, overall roster (if healthy)...a free agency period where players will want to come here (finally)...and a nice haul of draft picks.

Feels good...and very, very odd.

Nick Bolton - LB Mizzou, please.

Willie that's a good assessment. I didn't realize we had 2 - 3's and 2 - 4's. It's a good opportunity to shore up our weak spots along with FA.