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Wow!

20 for Hunter and 10 held by Hunter for Joe Biden:

It... It reminds me of old days of the Dukes of Hazzard show, Boss Hogg and Roscoe P Coletrane, where Roscoe would always say,

"and when I get 50% of your 50%, a goo goo goo good"
And Boss would Glare at him because it wasn't going to be true.

Rudy? Is that you?

Well you know the story. Hunter was so drunk he dropped his laptop off with all of this damaging information on it to be fixed by a legally blind computer repairman and even though businesses hand out receipts, he somehow couldn't figure out where he had left it.

Then after the laptop with all of this information on it had been abandoned, the legally blind computer repairman hacked into Hunters e-mail and stole personal information by copying the hard drive. Which is a felony. Then, somehow he had the number to the "Rudy Guliani Hotline". And well, you know the rest of the story...

And, if I'm not mistaken, they're blaming it on the russians, right?

Oddly enough, just as the anti trump crowd did in San Francisco on Saturday, causing a mini riot and injuries to some pro trump demonstrators, and 3 police officers - which you don't read about because you can't (I did read on cnn sunday morning about it - 15 minutes later the link was gone - weird, isn't it?)

Hunter's cohorts, at least, 2 of them, are in jail awaiting trial for the whole Burisma thing, and the China thing............yet you can't read about that either, which is really strange in my opinion that the main stream media doesn't plaster that all over.

And, is Joe Biden really done with campaigning until after the next debate?

And, the media is in full on deflection/denial mode.


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ny-post-reporter-behind-dubious-131745779.html

Discrediting facts because they don't like them, makes Biden look bad.

I mean, the msm has NEVER used anonymous sources, right?

People writing books about Trump are to be believed regardless, knowing the authors have no way to verify the info other than "I heard...."........and the fact the authors are trying to sell books, for their own profit.

I find it odd.

World of difference between writers writing articles and reporting on things and not naming their source.

What the article you posted says is the REPORTER didn't want his own name associated with his own article.

Two very different things.

j/c:

Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe says that Hunter Biden's laptop is NOT part of a Russian disinformation campaign but says it IS in the hands of the FBI

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...n.html#comments

So that story makes sense to you? Really? You do realize it was actually the American intelligence community that warned Rudy was being targeted by sources and not the Democrats, right? And that Trump didn't care when he was told. Talk about being selective....

National security adviser warned Trump in December 2019 that Giuliani was target of Russian disinformation campaign

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-house-warned-giuliani-russian-influence/

Try and keep up arch. You do know that the head of the FBI is a Trump appointee and not the deep state, right? Even they are suspicious that this thing has Russia written all over it....

A tabloid got a trove of data on Hunter Biden from Rudy Giuliani. Now, the FBI is probing a possible disinformation campaign.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...ani/3661895001/

Rudy Giuliani dodges questions about Russian agent who helped concoct Biden smear campaign

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic...kxzq-story.html

Can you explain how some computer guy in Delaware has Rudy's phone number?

Incorrect. The article I posted said someone from the NY Times said he didn't want his name on it.

Subtle, but major difference. Again, an example of the msm trying to create a false belief....you know, throw in doubt about facts, then report it as true. Been happening a lot recently.

So.... Trump / GOP Tactic is always, always, always to attack the source. Regardless of the information and validity of an article or item of news.

You are saying that because the NY Times wrote a piece about the NY Post - and said that the a reporter from the NY Post wouldn't put his name to the article .... what? I am not sure.

I'm not being obtuse, I am trying to figure it out.

I'll be honest with you - I am coming from the position that I think the laptop story and every thing sensational that comes from it is highly questionable at best ... but I don't get the issue with the 2 reports.

Your assertion seems to indicate every fact that we know about before this story came out should be ignored in order to believe it.

The fact that Guliani is known for a fact to have worked with a known Russian agent to try and dig up dirt on Hunter Biden.

The fact that Trump was told that Guliani was being influenced by the Russians.

The fact that the FBI is looking into how this story may have been planted by the Russians.

The fact that Guliani doesn't even work for the government and as Trump's personal attorney he isn't given any access to government investigations. So this is some story he somehow managed to find all on his own.

Then there's the fact that Trump's former attorney received a prison sentence for covering up for Trump.

So yes, if we avoid all of those facts, we might be naive enough to take such a wild story at face value. Or maybe, just maybe, those who believe it at face value only do so because it's what they want to believe.

The facts that you and others ignore about Biden is the concern. When any negative comes out, it's poopoohed and trashed instantly. Heck, even twitter and facebook don't allow it.

Russian collusion, even though it was the dems that did it?

(or, started it)

Nah, the left ignores facts. The msm aids and abets that.

Here's Joe's agenda for the rest of the week: No public anything. They call it 'preparing for the debate'.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbauman...w-long-n2578308

Why would it take 3 full days to prepare for a debate? Senility? Or, "Joe, don't go out to talk to the few reporters that show up because you might, in an offhand moment, be asked about your deal with Hunter, the Chinese, and Ukraine.......and we can't have that."

It's hard watching the world you imagined disintegrating before your eyes... but the good news is that there are meds for this.

j/c...

Meh.... if you want to vote by mail, how hard is it to get your mail in ballot sent at least 7-8 days before the election? C'mon. There can't be that many undecided voters ... and even if there is, they will be roughly split between Trump and Biden. Just send the damn votes in early.

I agree 100%.

Definitely agree - except a lot of people have been receiving their mail-in ballots very late.

Summit county was more than a week late sending things out -- there are supposedly two week delays in some areas of Pennsylvania etc.

Former RNC Chairman Michael Steele Endorses Biden
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ex-rn...nee-of-my-party

Some issues that matter to me and where I stand on them.

Abortion... Trump
Social Security... Biden
Medicare... Biden
Health insurance... Biden
Global warming... Trump
Gun control...Trump
Death Penalty...Biden
Corona Virus...Biden
Removing of Statues... Trump
Taxes... Trump
Marijuana... Biden
Minimum wage... Trump
Education... It's a wash
Nuclear Power... Neither
LGBTQ right... Biden
Immigration ... Neither
Police funding and support... Trump
I also worry that Trump will go further off the deep end, and that Biden will get dementia and leave Harris and Pelosi in charge. *Shiver*

I cannot even imagine what Trump's ego/irrationality would be like if he were re-elected.

A couple comments on your post.

I would reconsider your tax preference. Is Biden going to raise taxes? Yes but on the rich. The middle class should not be affected. Will Trump cut taxes? Yes but the people who will benefit are the rich and the corporations.

I find the favoring trump on global warming interesting. Can you explain why?

To help you decide who to vite for, rank the issues below in order of importance to you.maybe even weight them if a couple are super important and/or a few are minimally important. Then redo your list in order of importance for a visual and add up the numbers.

If you do that, i think it wll become clear. One way or the other and you will feel good about your vote

That should be your voting decision right there. He doesnt know how to govern in a national emergency. What emergency will come up in the next 4 years that he will have no clue how to manage? And what will his motivation on decision making be? His only motivation for every decision he has made the last 4 years has been based on will it help him get reelected. I guess all decisions in the next 4 years would be how he can make more money for himself and his family. Even if it causes death of US citizens.

As a public service, reaching across the isle, this is a reminder to trump voters to head to the polls on November 5th to cast your votes.




(Hey, they’ve fallen for donny’s lies for 4 years. It’s worth a try.)

Here is a good nonpartisan breakdown of the two candidates tax plans

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-tr...1?siteid=yhoof2

So you just ignored everything from Guliani known to have worked with Russians to the FBI looking into this being planted by the Russians.

To deflect you try and use some BS about Biden actually preparing for the debate. You are hilarious.

j/c...

The SCOTUS is now loaded in your favor. The SCOTUS will decide abortion. So what or how a president feels about it has nothing to do with how it will be decided.



I know we've gone back and forth on this. But it seems that even the oil and gas industry can see what the future will bring. Creating clean energy jobs and moving into the future shouldn't be taboo. So let me show you that this isn't just some political topic and that no matter who is in power, we are moving away from fossil fuels...

BP to Cut Oil and Gas Production 40%, Invest 10x More in Green Energy

https://www.ecowatch.com/bp-green-energy-investment-2646892538.html

The market is dictating we will be moving to green energy, not politicians.



Our second amendment rights are protected by the constitution. Gun control is decided from state to state. Once again, this is an issue which will be decided by the SCOTUS, not a president.



Once again, this is a state and local issue. No matter who is president, that will not change who removes them or who is committing a crime by removing them. Once again I'll remind you that Biden has stated over and over again that anyone involved in such criminal activity should be arrested and prosecuted.



Biden is not going to raise your taxes. Nor anyone who makes less than 400k. Biden isn't even proposing they be raised to the levels that existed before the tax cuts.



Many states and cities have taken control of this themselves by raising their own minimum wage. I'm rather surprised that you don't think the minimum wage should be raised. It hasn't been raised in over 11 years.



Just an FYI here in case you didn't know. Biden is against defunding the police and feels they need every dollar they are getting. Biden supports the police.

I suggest you visit https://joebiden.com/#

I think you may have been listening to what some people have been telling you rather than looking to see for yourself. I suggest you take a look for yourself to be better informed before making your decision.

j/c

More stupidity from the village idiot...

Trump trashes Fauci and makes baseless coronavirus claims in campaign call

A frustrated and at times foul-mouthed President Donald Trump claimed on a campaign call that people are tired of hearing about the deadly pandemic which has killed more than 215,000 Americans and trashed Dr. Anthony Fauci as a "disaster" who has been around for "500 years."

Referring to Fauci and other health officials as "idiots," Trump declared the country ready to move on from the health disaster, even as cases are again spiking and medical experts warn the worst may be yet to come.
Baselessly claiming that if Fauci was in charge more than half a million people would be dead in the United States, Trump portrayed the recommendations offered by his own administration to mitigate spread of the disease as a burdensome annoyance.

"People are tired of Covid. I have the biggest rallies I've ever had, and we have Covid," Trump said, phoning into a call with campaign staff from his namesake hotel in Las Vegas, where he spent two nights amid a western campaign swing. "People are saying whatever. Just leave us alone. They're tired of it. People are tired of hearing Fauci and all these idiots."

"Fauci is a nice guy," Trump went on. "He's been here for 500 years."
A Trump adviser later questioned the wisdom of attacking Fauci just two weeks before the election. The adviser described the President's comments as "not smart" because they keep the focus on the coronavirus pandemic, the one topic campaign officials would like to avoid the most.

Fauci has been the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984 and is a member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force. At almost the same time Trump was fuming on the phone, Fauci was being awarded the National Academy of Medicine's first-ever Presidential Citation for Exemplary Leadership during a virtual ceremony. Fauci said that he was "speechless" while receiving the recognition.

"We have a lot of challenges ahead of us and I can't help thinking that we're really going through a time that's disturbingly anti-science in certain segments of our society," Fauci said during the virtual event.
Trump openly criticized Fauci as his campaign is currently airing a television ad featuring the doctor that implies Fauci endorsed Trump's handling of the pandemic.

Fauci has disputed the ad, saying his words were taken out of context, and asked the campaign to take it down. But the ad was widely seen as an acknowledgment by the President's campaign staff that Fauci has credibility with voters who have rejected Trump's response.

The President is trailing in polling to Democratic rival Joe Biden in part due to his mishandling of the coronavirus pandemic. Trump recently returned to the campaign trail after being diagnosed with the virus himself and has shunned public health protocols for his political rallies. On the call, the President again mocked Biden's social distancing measures.

As he barnstorms electoral battlegrounds, Trump has been casting about for a closing message that resonates with voters addled by the virus and wary of his response. Attempts by his advisers to convince Trump to adopt a more serious tone about the pandemic have been halting. At a rally in Nevada on Sunday, Trump attempted to attack Biden by saying his rival would "listen to the scientists" if elected president.

By contrast, Trump has stopped attending meetings of his coronavirus task force, which has waned dramatically in influence. Instead the President has relied on the counsel of Dr. Scott Atlas, a radiologist whose views on mask wearing and other mitigation practices are at odds with nearly every scientific opinion.

The dynamic has caused tensions among the government's health officials, including with Fauci, whose warnings about the virus Trump has bristled at for months.

"Fauci is a disaster. If I listened to him, we'd have 500,000 deaths," he said on the campaign call on Monday, before later saying it would be 700,000 or 800,000.

"If there's a reporter on, you can have it just the way I said it, I couldn't care less," Trump said. CNN was given access to the call by a source.

Trump's attempt to shore up his campaign staff 15 days before Election Day came amid widespread worries among Republicans that his inability to hone a final message will have dire effects not only for his own race but for control of the US Senate.

Even as his anger was evident on the call, Trump sought to project optimism.

"This is the single best I have ever been in any campaign," Trump said regarding his reelection chances. "Today is the best single day that I've felt on either campaign."

"We are going to win," he said "I wouldn't have said that three weeks ago."
After stories emerged about early campaign finger-pointing ahead of a potential loss, Trump insisted he was satisfied with the work his team is doing -- including his chief of staff Mark Meadows, who has been blamed internally for badly mismanaging Trump's Covid diagnosis and subsequent hospitalization.

"I love Mark Meadows. It took me two years to get him out of Congress. Mark Meadows is doing a good job. I'm not dismissing him."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/19/politics/donald-trump-anthony-fauci-coronavirus/index.html

And Trump's Farewell/Super Spreader Tour continues. And the crowds go wild.

It will be worse than it has been.

The left has proven over the years that they want to raise everybody's taxes.



Because the left wants to rush into "green" and damn the results for the American people. I am all for clean energy, BUT not at the cost of hundreds of thousands of jobs, and increased prices to the consumer. Many Americans yell and scream about how bad coal mining jobs are in West Virginia, Ohio, and other states and they want it shut down, but you don't hear one single damn peep from them when other countries take our jobs and mine coal while our coal miners lose their jobs. Some americans bitch and cry about coal being dirty and wanting to shut down America's coal mines, yet they don't say a word about others counties poluting with coal.

I don't often bring up religion in my posts but, the Bible says love thy neighbor as thyself. Yet many americans want to say screw my neighbor and go people who live across the globe from us.

I did that the last time. Abortion was number one on my list, which is way I voted for Trump.

Yet you stand there proud to endorse murdering American babies.

Abortion has killed 4 times more Americans in the last year than Covid.

Since it appears your head was to thick to notice what I said before. I said once already I have NEVER posted a sign in my yard, on my house, on my car, or anywhere else supporting or bashing a candidate for any political position.

So with all the deregulation by Trump and the promises Trump made about bringing coal back, how many coal jobs have been created over the past four years?

I gave you proof that it's the energy industry moving forward with the BP link above that it's actually they who see where the future is leading. Time marches on and it has nothing to do with anything but how things have always worked. As time passes things change.

BP isn't cutting oil production by 40% and investing that back into green energy based on which politicians will be in charge.

I would be thrilled if that was true. However it's not. She has not been sworn in yet, AND what happens if the Dems win and pack the Supreme court?

Buddy, you're not stupid. The SCOTUS has been stacked in your favor to overturn Roe vs Wade. You know it's the SCOTUS who will decide abortion, not the president.

I'm not trying to pick a fight here -- but the Abortion rate:

Declined by 2% between 1980-1988 (Reagan Presidency)
Declined by 5% between 1988-1992 (GBush Presidency)
Declined by 27% between 1992 - 2000 (Clinton Presidency)
Declined by 5% between 2000-2008 (GWBush Presidency)
Declined by 21% between 2008-2016 (Obama Presidency)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_statistics_in_the_United_States

I accept that you are a sincere pro-life person -- and that you would like to see the process of abortion banned by law. With ACB, you might get that already (regardless of who becomes president).

But there is an important social method of preventing abortion too - and that is offering: good healthcare, parental leave, pre-school and other childcare opportunities, and economic security to women who have to make that decision.

Democratic presidents have been much more effective at that n the past. Biden has a ton of platforms in his healthcare agenda, childcare agenda, and employment agenda that will again significantly decrease the abortion rate in America.

EDIT: Changed from Abortions/1000 Women to Abortions/1000 Live Births, which seemed like a better statistic.

Oh I agree that the future is green bro. I just don't want our government shoving it down our throats while costing us jobs, and lower energy costs. If the government want's to shove it down our throat then make it cheaper or at least close to the same cost. Then 99 percent of Americans will be on board.



Oh really Most Dems want taxes raised. That is a fact bro.



Why oh why would I want many small businesses in ohio to go out of business because paying every damn employee 15 bucks an hour would do that. But hey if your all for screwing those old Americans who worked their whole life to get where they are then WOW I can only shake my head in disbelief bro.

As far as Biden and police I admit I may be wrong. However the left wants that done, and you might see it happen if Biden wins (maybe not) but you won't see it happen if Trump wins.



Wrong bro, and you couldn't be more wrong. I have wasted (yep thats the best description) far to many hours digging through the bull crap from both sides. As I said before I feel dirty and disgusted that my only choice is one of these two losers.