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Hey something we can agree 100 percent on

His campaign said it. That's their excuse.....I mean, like Biden would remember anything they prep him for anyway.

Out of sight, hopefully out of mind (in more ways than one, really). But, we know he'd never get asked about this issue anyway.

WOW either you have not listened to a word I said over the years, or you were just to stubborn to look up the facts bro.

I have been yelling on this site for YEARS that there was no way in hell for coal to keep going once Obama KILLED IT. NO company in America is going to be stupid enough to invest billions in a project that the government is going to shut down if the Dems are in charge. Trump rolled back regulations.... big deal. Do you really believe any company in their right mind is going to invest 100's of millions into a coal plant when the government might step in after the next election and shut them down. Come on bro even people with IQ's lower than 50 ain't that stupid.

One thing we could do that would save a bunch of money -- and make the US greener -- is to cut the $649 billion in fossil fuel subsidies we issue every year

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesellsmo...n/#16319e44735e

It seems you have decided which jobs you feel are more important. Let's look at that for just a minute. As we have both said, green energy is the future. The timetable is really the only thing up for debate here.

The change over, manufacturing and services of green energy will create jobs and net job loss may not even exist. It may create an overall job gain.

You may wish to actually compare the cost of green energy to fossil fuels. It's not nearly as costly as just ten years ago.

Renewable Energy Costs Take Another Tumble, Making Fossil Fuels Look More Expensive Than Ever

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2019/05/29/renewable-energy-costs-tumble/#23d4b32ee8ce

Coal powered plants are no longer being built. As they become old and need replaced, coal will also no matter what is done on the green energy front.

You can state what you believe "most Dems want to do", but Biden isn't going to raise your taxes.

I didn't say anything about $15 dollars an hour. And if you do the math, even if it were $15 dollars an hour, everyone would have to pay the same. It wouldn't be an advantage to any business be them big or small since everyone would be required to pay the same thing.

Besides, you know how this works. You were in the car business. What you ask for and what you get are two different things.

and you know better than to believe that the left wont just add more of their judges to the Scotus when they get in charge.

If you believe coal isn't coming back no matter what, then why are you against green energy so much? At some point we have to stop trashing this planet. You seem to think waiting longer is the best approach.

So you're saying when it comes to bringing back coal jobs Trump was lying all along?

I am 110 percent for that buddy

and what you keep side stepping and ignoring is that we should be able to do BOTH. Keep dirty energy running until green energy is able to fill our needs without costing the average american hard earned money out of their pockets. What you want is for our government to shove green down everybodys throats no matter what the cost.

Notice the head line: Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say

Notice this, buried in the article:


This is how it has been for the last 4 years: Make a statement about trump in the headline, and then later in the article do the 'if', and 'if, that, then this MIGHT be, but we don't have proof..." On and on.

Also,

And this:

And then this: So, politico has not verified it, nor have they verified it to be false. In other words, they don't know, but they certainly seem to claim they do.

But we'll put it in the headline that we know.

It's what I've been railing against for 4 years!!!

It's like this (just an example of how bad it is) Headline: Trump Screwed a Donkey!

Buried in the article "Trump today visited a farm. A donkey was on the farm. We have an anonymous witness that claims Trump and the farmer were in the vicinity of the donkey with no press. We can't verify any of this, but we'll run with it, cause, trump bad, biden good."

LMAO no 70 percent of the time I got what I asked

Oh hell yes, just like 90 percent of the time when he opens his mouth.

That has to be one of the silliest comments I've seen in a while. Car companies aren't going to stop making cars that use gas. People who own cars now will still need gas. Natural gas energy plants aren't going to disappear.

What the government is going to do is try and make it easier to use renewable energy. Provide charging stations. Tax incentives. Which in case you didn't know, they are already giving tax incentives under Trump for buying electric vehicles.

How is that "cramming it down your throat"?

Making something a more viable option isn't forcing something on anyone.

Correct. Remember back when states were allowed to set their own laws about, say DUI? They were, and still are allowed to do that. Problem? If states didn't adopt the federal gov't. mandate, the fed. gov't. said they wouldn't send the state/s that didn't adhere any money for road construction, even though the states had to pay it in. States could still do what they want....but if they didn't obey, no money for them.

Or, just shut your a/c off. Quit using a power mower. Walk to work, or ride bike. Turn your heat down. Quit going places. Turn your lights off. Quit flying. Quit buying things that come in/with plastic.

Well stop looking at the pictures and start reading the articles then



GMAFB The government has been doing this for years, yet they have done little to try to supply the public with alternative energy without screwing the regular guys and gals.

Oh Lord I need that LOVE button for your last two posts bro

Yet in the end all of these laws will be settled in the SCOTUS.

Just look at the laws all the states are setting to limit abortion. They go through the court system to be decided. The same will happen with gun laws.

Even dumb asses who think you shouldn't have to wear a mask are taking it to court.

DUI and things like a national speed limit aren't in the constitution. Gun rights are. That's an apples to oranges comparison.

Or make the things you need not be so harmful to the environment. Impractical suggestions won't really help anything.

I think that you two want the same thing. I think the problem is we don't have a viable plan that has been vetted amongst everyone and actually detailed out in a way that demonstrates compromise and sustainability.

Of course when the notion even makes it to either legislative floor, the conversation turns to being about one side who wants the planet to burn and the other side who wants to kill off jobs and ruin our current way of life. I don't know if anything ever gets discussed before the extremism takes over.

Correct.

It's not an apples to oranges comparison.

It's a fact. Unless the constitution is over ridden, which I highly doubt, all the fed. gov't. needs to do is mandate "hey, you can own guns, no doubt. But, we'll tax them, and ammo, and powder, and mandate X dollar amount of insurance you must pay for, for each gun........or we'll come take them. You can own them, it's just, we'll make it financially impossible to do so."

That's the end around we're possibly looking at. It's really pretty simple, for those that are educated and knowledgeable, to see what could easily happen. And has happened, i.e. dui laws.

Watch.

That would be taken to court as it would impact your right to bear arms.

It's EXACTLY the same thing that's being done with state abortion restrictions. Exactly the same. No state is outright banning abortions. What they're doing is making it restrictive to get them. Many such laws have been overturned because Roe vs Wade has been made into law at the federal level.

DUI has never been decided by the SCOTUS. Once again you are trying to use an apples to oranges comparison here.

Only educated and knowledgeable individuals who are trying to manipulate people into thinking the SCOTUS can't and or won't overturn gun laws are telling you this.

j/c

Admiral In Charge Of Bin Laden Raid Endorses Biden In Stinging Trump Rebuke

William McRaven, retired four-star admiral and former head of U.S. Special Operations Command, says he’s a conservative and he’s voting for Democrat Joe Biden.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/william-m...ection=politics

I guess that's a part of what happens when you openly spread false information that their mission was fake and Obama had them killed.

Insanity is still not a popular position to hold among most people when looking for a president.

Incorrect. The fed. gov't. can impose any tax they want as long as it's voted on in congress. The fed. gov't. can't, without a constitutional change, bar anyone from owning a gun, or guns.

They CAN, however, make it financially difficult if not impossible. Same as they did with coal, same as they did with motor vehicle laws. Period, end of discussion with you.

Or when it's reported you mock soldiers as "losers, suckers".

Or when it's reported you dodged the draft with a dubious medical excuse.

Or when you decide to abandon allies by announcing a withdrawal from Syria.

GC.
Elaine Marshall, Democrat, is the North Carolina Sec. of State, and would certify election results for the state of North Carolina.

Ray Cooper, Democrat is NC's Governor.

And the North Carolina State legis.' makeup is
a House with (120) members, 65R, 55D,

and a NC Senate with (50)members, 29R and 21 D

GC. Joe Biden Can't even stand up straight for 3 days!

For 3 days Joe Biden has to go back into his vampires' coffin, so they can pump him full of steroids and embalming fluid,
and blow whistles and snap their fingers in front of his face to try and wake up his mind,
so he can have a debate at the end of the week!

He can't relate to foreign leaders in a presidential role if he can't even get out of his cocoon.
# Disaster!

You talking about Trump? We know the other world leaders think Trump is a total tool. We've seen him isolate himself from all the Democrat leaders while trying to praise and ingratiate himself with dictators.

Yes, I read the entire article.

Fifty former senior intelligence officers put their name on it as being dubious.

I'm still trying to figure out who this whole story is supposed to have an impact on. Seems like it is just to rally Trump's base.

So, you totally ignore the "we have no evidence", and all the other things I posted from that article. Got it.

It's like I've tried to hammer home: Make a sensational headline, follow it up with innuendo and anonymous, connect all the fake news you want, and say 'it could be, if, and if IF happens, it MIGHT lead to this....

I'm not ignoring that. I'm siding with their experience as intelligence officers and Giuliani's lack of verified evidence, eroded credibility and the fact is was printed in a tabloid paper.

This story isn't even moving the needle in the polls.

Like I said, it seems like a ditch effort to rally his base and keep them energized.

If there was anything to it, Barr would have moved on it like Trump commanded he do.

The story isn't moving the needle cause none of the msm covers it. Period. Anything you read about it does exactly what I said - poo poo's it, and says NO WAY, because maybe, and if, and if maybe, then it could be, and if all those suppositions are true, than it might not be true, but we don't have proof.

It doesn't really matter that they have evidence. Everybody who paid any attention at all knows that Biden was engaged in quid pro quo, just like many other politicians. People are numb to it. They expect politicians to be corrupt. You vote out one that is corrupt and then quickly find out the replacement is just as corrupt as the one you got rid of.

Look, if they find child stuff on that laptop like some people have alluded, that will move the needle, but that is not going to happen and I know that it is not going to happen because if they had that evidence, they would have led with that, not held it back.

Here's what's going to happen. Guliani is going to slow leak emails. Every day something new but minor and they will say 'wait till tomorrow's shocker', but a true shocker is never going to come. They just want to keep it in the news as long as possible. Meanwhile, the Republicans in Congress are going to get a special prosecutor investigating corruption. It's not that they really want justice and they really don't want to have Kamala Harris as president, they just want to embroil Biden in a three ring circus for the next three years.

The local news, 3 days ago, had a segment on, voting in more than one state. (It hadn't even crossed my mind).

Suppose you or I were a democrat, and we know dems get away with everything, especially when it comes to electiions because we think,
1 laws don't apply and
2. there is no authority higher than their friends,

So, If the case arises and you can be registered to vote in a state you live in and one you used to live in, and, now that's 2.

But in the old days you may be limited by how many poling places you could physically show up to on election day.

So we have one party, (the democrats which for 30 years seek to expand the,
time
number of places
and number of ways, mail in, absentee, etc.
that someone can vote,

and if you consider the number of North East states in such close proximity and that they always break democrat.

Welll.... If they could only expand voting day, say with an early voting period, (only around for largely the last decade), or by allowing votes to be turned in even after election day,
(votes must be accepted even 3 days after by court ruling, in some state today)

AND... we see It is the "democratic" party that has fought so hard for these expansions in the Courts,
While it is the Republican party that has fought so hard for the simplicity of
One Vote
One person
One Day
And Verified, the identity of that person.

Then we could start to see,
WHY WITH 10 DIFFERENT STATES:

Between Baltimore and Boston, not even counting Virginia or DC,

Well we could really get an advantage if all of our guys vote 10 times, and everybody knows,

All of theses states break for the democratic candidates, in unison, imagine that,

Because with 30-60 days of early Voting,
Someone could take their time in voting at almost a dozen polling places,

While in the Old Days, it would have had to be done all on one day,
(ehh I'm too old for that stuff ^.)

Hypotheticaly, Allegedly,

I hadn't even thought of that! Thanks local News!

And only one party, shouts voter suppression, voter suppression, voter suppression, for 40 years

Welll> This year,

There will be as many votes floating around as leaves falling off the trees,
Here a vote, there a vote, how many votes, everybody vote, count this one! Count that one! Count all these I found over here!

Sad.

I got my ballots. Me & Mommy make them out together, 10 at a time. In 5 days, our work is done. We stick'em in the corner mailbox so our postal carrier doesn't get suspicious. That dark web site we use as an info clearinghouse has been a game-changer. Love the push notifications on my burner phone, as well.

We decided to go alphabetical this year. We went geographical region last time. In Obama '12, drew names from a hat. Whatever method we use, we always get all our ballots in on time.

I love voting season.
So much fun.
So much subversion.

GC.

Lori Loughin, and Felicity Huffman each spent (2 weeks,) and (2 months) in prison for trying to get their kid into college by paying.

THIS^ IS EXACTLY (at least)what JOE BIDEN is GUILTY OF,
(By getting his Son Hunter a job at Burisma, with no experience in energy, to run an energy company for 50,000 dollars a MONTH) (And by the statements on Biden saying if they, (the govt. of Ukraine), don't fire the lawyer looking into the situation, that He, (Barrack Obama, and Biden by calling Barack), would withhold 1 billion dollars, of aid to the Country, and then giving them 6 hours to decide, and then within the 6 hours the Lawyer was fired.


Evidenced by the Hunter Biden Computer, hard drive showing how the Bidens' weren't just trying to get a kid into a college,

But rather, putting American foreign policy up for sale, which is treasonous by definition.

and that's not to mention Hunter and cocaine use, <? Really, where is the evidence, where is the evidence he used cocaine?

Just because you mock cheating, and many democrat voters are legitimate, do you think the democrats don't cheat?
Gmab!

I wonder if 40 and THROWLONG are the same person?

I think over and over and over, accusations of voter fraud are yelled about every election cycle. I know that the stats on fraud are vanishingly low, from report after report after report. Decade after decade after decade.

So cry all you want about something that is statistically the equivalent of being struck by lightning, it's only your 'mountain to climb.' For the rest of sane, balanced America, it is now and has always been a molehill.

So yes- I mock it. Openly
With all the dripping derision I can muster.