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Fraud is low, as far as we know. We also know fraud is evident.
This year, we've heard about absentee ballots, mail in ballots, early voting (which you and I both have done) yet we also hear about extending mail in ballot time. For what?
We've heard "the poor can't get to the voting site, costs too much" Okay, we'll mail you a ballot. "The mail man doesn't pick it up, or the mail box I put it in is gone." How do you get your damn mail? I can't get my mail in/absentee ballot in the mail." You've had more than a month to do it!!! What the hell is your problem? Don't want to do the mail in that you begged for? Now we have early voting - monday thru friday, most saturdays, and even sundays.
Oh, we need to extend the voting period. I'm damn sorry, no, we don't. It's been made so easy even a cave man could do it. You can go to the polls early, in many cases 7 days a week. You can have a ballot mailed to you, and all you have to do is mark it, and put it in the damn envelope, and put it in the same damn box you got it out of.
What's this talk of extending ..........what???
Are people literally helpless?
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I wonder if 40 and THROWLONG are the same person? They are NOT the same poster. Both are great conservatives though and the country could use more like them. 
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Mark Levin radio show.
Apparently we are ruled not by rules, or law, but by a biased unjust court system, too often.
Apparently, Pennsylvania, court ruling, Ballots cast without a post mark, even up to 3 days after the election, will have to be counted, unless they are (burden of proof), can be proven to have been cast after the election ends 8pm election night.
So the entire Country, has early voting, and , absentee voting, and yet
Pennsylvania, now, has, ohh...
Do over voting, after the results come in.
So, if the Democrats don't like the results in Pennsylvania, they can just drum up some more votes, the day after, the 2nd day after, 3 days after the election,
and don't post mark any of them, but uhh, they'll have to be counted.
What a freaking disgrace.
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j/c Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud https://apnews.com/article/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18dThey get told the same lies over and over again and still believe them. I mean just look at arch, they've been telling him, "They gonna take yer guns!" for decades now and he still believes that BS. Everyone who knows Jack about the SCOTUS knows their main job is constitutional law and they are to uphold the constitution. But he still doesn't get it. Trump keeps lying and they keep believing him.
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j/c Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud https://apnews.com/article/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18dThey get told the same lies over and over again and still believe them. I mean just look at arch, they've been telling him, "They gonna take yer guns!" for decades now and he still believes that BS. Everyone who knows Jack about the SCOTUS knows their main job is constitutional law and they are to uphold the constitution. But he still doesn't get it. Trump keeps lying and they keep believing him. STOP WITH YOUR FACTS ... they don't matter. Period.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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Biden would repeal the Trump Tax Cuts.
If you vote Biden... if you ever Do get a paycheck, it will include
LESS TAKE HOME PAY. Because Biden will raise taxes.
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Actually it would only be a part of them. He would repeal the tax cuts for those who make over 400k. Everything else is nothing but more lies perpetrated by Trump and his homies.
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You make over 400k a year? I don’t. Likely never will. So, your concern is?
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5 questions on the Joe Biden Story, Burisma/laptop/ Hunter/
We all know the alleged story is Hunter Biden's laptop was left at a repair shop and it contained stuff that showed Hunter redacted there's no proof of that, YET!) But the laptop contained evidence of Burisma and Ukrainians thanking Hunter for introducing the Ukrainian to Joe Biden when JB was VP.
And We all know the alleged story is Hunter Biden emailed to hold 30% of payments to Joe Biden by the Ukrainians , 20% for Hunter, and another 10% for "the big guy" ,
and the alleged story includes emails of removed
(I think, personaly, removed, what the heck do I know )
The 5 questions that so LOUDLY SPEAK that they just haven't been denied.
1. Is that Hunter Bidens' signature at the computer repair shop?
Nobody has come out to say "NO"
2. Is it not Hunter Bidens' laptop that was left at the shop for 45 days to later be surrendered when not picked up, Is That Hunter Bidens' Laptop??? Nobody has come out to say "NO"
3. Was Hunter ever in the Store, easy to say Hunter was never in the Store??? Nobody has come out to say "NO'
4. Did Hunter never meet the guy??? Hunter could say he never even met the guy,
Nobody has come out to say "NO"
5. Did Hunter Bidens' lawyer call to get the laptop back. They could say Hunter Bidens' lawyer never tried/made a call. to get Hunters' laptop back???
Nobody has come out to say "NO"
The BS on the computers, who knows what that is, but The EASY, OBVIOUS answer to all of this is to simply have someone say "NO" to all of these 5 questions.
Reminds me of some little kids voice and a Chicago blacksox scandal some 60 years before I was born, some kid talking to a baseball player in the 1920s? The baseball player happened to be named joe too, the old " say it isn't so joe" quote from the 1920's black sox scandal.
hmm.
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My real concern is anybody on this planet is (messed up) enough to vote for democrats; "almost" EVER!
It's very concerning, dang it's worse than seeing the steelers beat the browns 100 times over if it happened every day for a year, for 10 years a new played game, each one a loss, every day, for 50 years, each one a newer more devastating loss to the steelers is not as concerning to me
as that anyone votes for a democrat, in almost all situations ever.
and I only include the word almost because the possibility something like isis, or hamas was the only other option. Spit! I need to hurl or vomit after considering the idea.
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You make over 400k a year? I don’t. Likely never will. So, your concern is? The devastating losses I've incurred in ... at the hands of the democratic party since Clinton was elected, or even got party nom, in 1992/1991 and the realization... And all the people that were taught all the lies, since (some year or before) My concern is??
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j/c Here's some interesting snippets from the mouth of Guliani from the article Rudy Giuliani said there's a '50/50' chance he worked with a Russian spy to obtain harmful information about the Bidens Rudy Giuliani, the former mayor of New York City and one of President Donald Trump's personal lawyers, said in an interview with The Daily Beast that there was a "50/50" chance one of his associates was a spy for Russia. When asked if he was worried that the information he had provided to The New York Post as part of its recent series of reports about stolen data from a hard drive that supposedly belonged to Democratic nominee Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, was the result of the 2019 hacking of Ukrainian natural-gas company Burisma Holdings, where the younger Biden served on the board beginning in 2014, Giuliani told the outlet it "wouldn't matter," and asked "what's the difference?" https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-said-theres-a-chance-he-worked-with-russian-spy-2020-10So whether it was information planted by the Russians or part of illegal activity, it wouldn't matter and what's the difference? And people wonder why others don't find this BS credible.
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I'm genuinely curious about your statements and I'm trying to figure out what has actually transpired from tangible consequences vs what may just be indoctrination and assumptions.
What devastating losses have you incurred at the hands of the Democrats since Clinton that can be pointed to the Democrats? I'm assuming that you are also making the point that you were alleviated from those losses during the Bush & Trump administrations, especially when they had control of Congress?
It's obviously up to your comfort level to share, but I'm genuinely curious.
From my perspective, there have been things that every administration has done which were bone-headedly stupid and other things that were either inconsequential, decent or positive.
Generally speaking from my own individual experience, my individual trajectory and circumstances have been relatively stable throughout all those administrations, outside of sequestration, which might have been one of the dumbest governmental undertakings during my lifetime.
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Honestly, those conclusions are perfectly understandable if you're one of the 2 people who insist Russia was/is NOT conducting elaborate disinformation campaigns to interfere with our elections.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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Yeah, even when the man at the head of it all admits that there's a 50/50 chance the Russians are involved. You honestly can't make this BS up. Oh wait, they did.
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Honestly, those conclusions are perfectly understandable if you're one of the 2 people who insist Russia was/is NOT conducting elaborate disinformation campaigns to interfere with our elections. Would you include face book and twitter in the disinformation campaign? As in, not allowing anything negative about the d's precious dear leader?
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Would you include face book and twitter in the disinformation campaign? As in, not allowing anything negative about the d's precious dear leader?
Crowdtangle (now owned by facebook) has been tracking this for years -- almost every day 8 of the 10 most shared political stories are from right-wing sources. You can read the beginning, and the end if you have a subscription: https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail...f-american-news
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Ah, you found a way of turning Fake News with a 50/50 chance that Russians were involved into a disinformation campaign. Not all that clever.
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Have it your way Burger King. LWL.
Don't toobin yourself.
You win. Drive off any and everyone that disagrees with you.
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Being driven off by someone who disagrees with you is a sign of weakness.
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j/c...
Rudy having a tough one.
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? Toobin was trying to multi-task on a zoom call. Didn't work out for him!
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Biden would repeal the Trump Tax Cuts.
If you vote Biden... if you ever Do get a paycheck, it will include
LESS TAKE HOME PAY. Because Biden will raise taxes.
I am glad to know that you make over 400K. Know your tax situation before sticking you foot in your mouth.
Welcome back, Joe, we missed you!
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Biden would repeal the Trump Tax Cuts.
If you vote Biden... if you ever Do get a paycheck, it will include
LESS TAKE HOME PAY. Because Biden will raise taxes.
I am glad to know that you make over 400K. Know your tax situation before sticking you foot in your mouth. Biden would repeal the Trump Tax Cuts. The Trump Tax Cuts affect the middle class.
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Biden would repeal the Trump Tax Cuts.
If you vote Biden... if you ever Do get a paycheck, it will include
LESS TAKE HOME PAY. Because Biden will raise taxes.
He should! Rich people and big ass businesses get enough tax breaks! They should pay their fair share.
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Biden would repeal the Trump Tax Cuts.
If you vote Biden... if you ever Do get a paycheck, it will include
LESS TAKE HOME PAY. Because Biden will raise taxes.
I am glad to know that you make over 400K. Know your tax situation before sticking you foot in your mouth. Biden would repeal the Trump Tax Cuts. The Trump Tax Cuts affect the middle class. Only for a few years then the go away. The rich get to keep their cuts.
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Being driven off by someone who disagrees with you is a sign of weakness. Actually, it's a sign of intelligence.
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I don't disagree.
Personally, I have no opinion one way or another about voting deadlines because I have no dog in that fight- at all. We were going to do the mail-in thing because we are now on the young end of CoVid's primary target group. We decided to go in person because my wife didn't want to entrust her ballot to a chain of command. I've been back at the job since Sept, albeit in limited capacity, so I've become pretty habitual in my preventive protocol. I said "why not? We'll just be super careful."
I think that apprehension about not being in direct control, plus the recent news stories about DeJoy's changes might be part of why these issues are being considered/discussed/litigated, but I can't be sure.
I will also add: when we got in the car to vote, we both agreed that if the line was too long or safety measures weren't being enforced, we'd go home and take our chances with the mail. Mail was our first choice, then it became our second choice.
"too many notes, not enough music-"
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The affect was marginal for most in the middle class. For me, it was a wash, the blue state mortgage penalty hurt, there was some shifting of brackets and scheme, but it was still about the same percentage at the end.
You had to be in a higher bracket for there to be a real benefit.
So you are right, the Trump tax cuts affect the middle class, but it was not significant.
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Bidens plans would raise taxes 4 trillion dollars,
soo, if that's not significant.
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Bidens plans would raise taxes 4 trillion dollars,
soo, if that's not significant. How will you ever pay 4 trillion dollars? Tax jail for you... smh
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What's this in the news about Russia and Iran pretending to be the proud boys on social media???? WTF???
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What's this in the news about Russia and Iran pretending to be the proud boys on social media???? WTF??? Here you go...
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Supposedly, Iran sent spoofed emails acting like the Proud Boys to dems in Florida and Alaska telling them to change their party designation on their voter registration and vote for Trump or the Proud Boys would come after them. Trump's DNI (another lap dog) made an announcement about it tonight, and the internet is trying to determine if it is really a foreign actor, if it's a Trump stunt, or if the Proud Boys are really behind it. It would mean drastic consequences for any American if they were caught behind a voter intimidation scheme like this.
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