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Interesting, and surprising read: Big donors.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/big-role-big-donors-still-192027299.html


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Where is trump getting his loans?


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Interesting, and surprising read: Big donors.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/big-role-big-donors-still-192027299.html


Read it, I won't comment on it now.


Probably from ActBlue PAC who collects funds on behalf of BLM for the purpose of supporting Dem campaigns.


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Originally Posted By: BADdog
Where is trump getting his loans?


Loans? That have to be paid back?

Or political donors, that expect payback politically.

Biden, who's son goes from drug addict with no job, to drug addict making $60,000 to $80,000 a month, with an energy company, and hooking dad up with execs from said company, as well as a chinese company with 10% of his 'earnings' being earmarked for dad.

You're worried about loans?

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Originally Posted By: BADdog
Where is trump getting his loans?


I don't understand the reference. Maybe there is something in he news that I am not aware of, but any real estate developer is going to have loans. That's not a pro-Trump statement or anything. It's just the way things are.

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e-mail. Hunter. 10 held for the big guy.

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Some people can't fathom that a person worth billions would have loans. Can't fathom that in actuality, if he owes only 421 million, he's under leveraged, NOT over leveraged.

Some people don't realize he has donated every cent of his $400,000.00 salary from being president .....donated to all kinds of charities.

And they ignore the kickbacks Hunter got for being a meth head with a sudden job in a field he knows nothing about, to the tune of some $60,000 to $80,000 per month in salary, PLUS a $3.5 million pay day from the wife of the mayor of moscow. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along, nothing to see here.

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I sent Biden a couple dollars, so have millions of dems and the true left.

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You didn't read the article, thanks for playing.

12 people, in a fund raiser, donated $4.5 million to biden.....well, to the dnc. 1 night.

I'm sure your few dollars rank.

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Some people cant understand why a president wont disclose his tax returns.


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
You didn't read the article, thanks for playing.

12 people, in a fund raiser, donated $4.5 million to biden.....well, to the dnc. 1 night.

I'm sure your few dollars rank.


So what? And no I didn't read your article because I don't care where Biden's money comes from as long as he beats Trump.

Trump gets money and help from Putin! Why the hell should I care about where Biden's money is coming from?

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
And no I didn't read your article because I don't care where Biden's money comes from as long as he beats Trump.


Nuff said. Too ignorant to educate yourself. That's what I've thought about you for a long time, and you just sealed the deal. Thanks for playing. Oh, by the way, it wasn't MY article. Facts don't do you any favors. Keep on hating, it serves you well.

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Some people can't fathom that a person worth billions would have loans. Can't fathom that in actuality, if he owes only 421 million, he's under leveraged, NOT over leveraged.


I find that actually hard to believe given the number of properties he owns that have to be worth several Billion at least. Most real estate investments are financed about 2/3rds from loans.

Take this REIT for example:
https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/amt/financials/balance-sheet
43B in assets
paid for with
31B in debt and $14.5B investment funds
That's a pretty typical ratio for these type of things.
So $421M is pretty small given the number of properties that Trump has ownership in

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Interesting, and surprising read: Big donors.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/big-role-big-donors-still-192027299.html


Read it, I won't comment on it now.


How come Trump didn't admit to having a Bank Account in CHina... How come he didn't disclose that he paid $188,000 in Taxes in China.

But to your point, how come Trump has only $17 million left in his campaign?

How come the Trump campaign still owes Jacksonville, Florida over his foolish attempt to Bully other cities...

Trumps got some explaining to do


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While we are at it, let's discuss this:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatind...c/#4354df3b2ffe


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Biden is getting money from supporters of his campaign. Trump gets his money from his deplorable supporters.

Now what banks in what countries does trump owe hundreds of million$ to? Because no US bank will give him a loan.


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
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And no I didn't read your article because I don't care where Biden's money comes from as long as he beats Trump.


Nuff said. Too ignorant to educate yourself. That's what I've thought about you for a long time, and you just sealed the deal. Thanks for playing. Oh, by the way, it wasn't MY article. Facts don't do you any favors. Keep on hating, it serves you well.


Priceless. The irony is thick enough to cut with a knife. You calling me ignorant... telling me to educate myself... lmao

But you are probably right about one thing, the more I interact with you the dumber I become for doing it. And don't think for a moment that I mistook you for an article author... lmao. Maybe if the link was for 4chan.

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Isn't it possible for both candidates to get funding by "bad" or special interest groups?

To borrow one of Rocket's favorite phrases, there's a lot of "whataboutisms" on this topic.


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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Interesting, and surprising read: Big donors.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/big-role-big-donors-still-192027299.html


Read it, I won't comment on it now.


How come Trump didn't admit to having a Bank Account in CHina... How come he didn't disclose that he paid $188,000 in Taxes in China.

But to your point, how come Trump has only $17 million left in his campaign?

How come the Trump campaign still owes Jacksonville, Florida over his foolish attempt to Bully other cities...

Trumps got some explaining to do


This must be some of that "whataboutism" the libs like to whine about.


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Interesting, and surprising read: Big donors.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/big-role-big-donors-still-192027299.html


Read it, I won't comment on it now.


How come Trump didn't admit to having a Bank Account in CHina... How come he didn't disclose that he paid $188,000 in Taxes in China.

But to your point, how come Trump has only $17 million left in his campaign?

How come the Trump campaign still owes Jacksonville, Florida over his foolish attempt to Bully other cities...

Trumps got some explaining to do


This must be some of that "whataboutism" the libs like to whine about.


Ahh, but you can't refute it right?

You wanna know how long I've been hearing from Trump supporters about what Obama did or what Clinton did.. All in an effort to distract from what is DOING right now.


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Maybe someone can explain it to me. If Trump was unsuccessful at starting any business ventures in China (which multiple articles report), then why would he be paying Chinese taxes? I suspect these journalists reading over these tax returns don't actually know what they are talking about, because that just does not make any sense. You cannot reconcile those two points. Either you have business dealing that require taxes be paid, or you have not business dealing and no taxes.

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e-mail. Hunter. 10 held for the big guy.


That damned Hunter Biden/Hillary Clinton ticket sucks!

rofl

Don't talk about his children!


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Some people cant understand why a president wont disclose his tax returns.


Since every president and those who ran for president for the past 50 years have, that's understandable. Of course I'm sure his income taxes dating ALL THE WAY BACK to 2012 through 2016 are still under audit. lmao


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
You didn't read the article, thanks for playing.

12 people, in a fund raiser, donated $4.5 million to biden.....well, to the dnc. 1 night.

I'm sure your few dollars rank.


You seem to forget that the SCOTUS ruled that corporations are people too. I didn't hear you crying foul when the Republicans were doing it. wink

I think your side needs to find a story they plan to stick with. Either business hates the idea of Biden being elected and business will tank. Or business loves Biden and are donating millions to his campaign. You can't have it both ways.

But hey, at least you're trying to.


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Was that solely income tax he paid? Or property tax also?

Just as in the u.s., the report is Trump paid very, very little in income tax - fed - but I'm sure his companies have paid quite a bit in property tax.

I'm also fairly sure, since the IRS - you know, the group that audits and collects taxes here in the states, would've been after Trump by this time and found something, not?

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e-mail. Hunter. 10 held for the big guy.


That damned Hunter Biden/Hillary Clinton ticket sucks!

rofl

Don't talk about his children!


As you so often say: I'm not running for office.

Let me dumb it down for you, although I don't know if I can do that well enough for you : Biden's running for president. His son went from a druggie, to a druggie making millions of dollars from russia, china, and Ukraine.

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Again, let me dumb it down for you, okay?

Comment was made that biden's money was coming from individuals. It's not. Is that base enough for you to grasp, or do I need to draw pictures for you?

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. I got it backwards.


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I'll send ou some crayons for Christmas arch. Guliani admitted it was 50/50 he was getting information from Russians.

Rudy Giuliani said there's a '50/50' chance he worked with a Russian spy to obtain harmful information about the Bidens

https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-said-theres-a-chance-he-worked-with-russian-spy-2020-10

When using those crayons be sure to color inside the lines.

You started this thread. There were no comments preceding yours.


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Are you really this dense, or do you have to try?

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Do you mean like how you keep pushing an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory where the guy who started it all admits the information may be coming from the Russians? That kind of dense?

Be careful arch. You're dancing very close to the edge on the rules of the board. I need you around for comic relief and to watch your meltdown as Pocapornstar goes down the tubes.


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I'm not dancing anywhere, although you'd love me to.

Hey, the russian thing back in 2016? Who started it? Oh, your wanna be bride and the dnc. Wasn't the steele dossier found to be lies?

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In fact, if I got a ban, I could see you doing a dance.

And it wouldn't be a TURBINE dance either.

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Actually many parts of the Steele dossier were proven to be true. So much for that homework theory I had about you....

Clapper: 'More and more' of Steele dossier proving to be true

https://thehill.com/policy/national-secu...ving-to-be-true

I'm surprised you haven't went to one of the Farewell/Super Spreader 2020 Tour events Trump has held.

Rudy admitted he may have been working with Russians. It came out of his own mouth as much as you wish to ignore it.

You should really consider the comedy club circuit if your work is still slow.


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You should really consider the comedy club circuit if your work is still slow.



Nice.

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Interesting, and surprising read: Big donors.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/big-role-big-donors-still-192027299.html


Read it, I won't comment on it now.


How come Trump didn't admit to having a Bank Account in CHina... How come he didn't disclose that he paid $188,000 in Taxes in China.

But to your point, how come Trump has only $17 million left in his campaign?

How come the Trump campaign still owes Jacksonville, Florida over his foolish attempt to Bully other cities...

Trumps got some explaining to do


This must be some of that "whataboutism" the libs like to whine about.


Ahh, but you can't refute it right?

You wanna know how long I've been hearing from Trump supporters about what Obama did or what Clinton did.. All in an effort to distract from what is DOING right now.



Did you just whatabout your whatabout?


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I see total irony in the thread. Can I even say pot calling kettle black in the world of today?

The facts are the since McCain-Finegold was deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court corporate money has flown to both parties.

Both sides leverage any potential donation to its maximum extent because that is allowed by law today today. So anyone claiming some sort of moral high ground is dumber than a sack of rocks because the laws allow money to come from anywhere.. And as a political candidate, money buys advertising, political strategists and votes.

Now we can enact a new law and change the circumstance, but that would take political courage, something that does not exist.

I always hated that decision, a corporation is not a person, that is my belief and I will stick with it. If a corporation was a person they would have the same tax code as a person, and would have to pay a lot more.


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