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If 20% of them are not partisan, that means they lean in neither direction. That would also mean it's dependent on the candidates. That means if one of the candidates is found to be deeply disturbing, a 50/50 split is not so predetermined. It allows for a swing in one direction or the other depending on the election and the candidates.


I didn't say it was exactly 50/50? I said it is closer to 50/50 than most people believe...


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I don't think most Independents are predisposed to vote entirely for one party or another. Show me data if anyone wants to back up that claim.


https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/05/15/facts-about-us-political-independents/


This analysis of survey results doesn't really dig into how the independents are voting or whether they are voting for a party across the board or whether they maintain those some voting tendencies over time. Also, from the best that I can determine, the study seems flawed because they do not state specifically how they determined if someone is left leaning or right leaning. If they made the determination which box to put people in based on the answers to the survey questions, then when they go back and look at how the people in each box answered the questions, they are going to find that those they put in the left leaning box are going to support more left leaning positions. How could that not happen? But those results are predetermined by the way in which they did the study and the questions that were chosen.

Independents can be swayed to vote for either party, but the parties have to offer them something.

I know many, many people that have voted for both Republicans and Democrats. Sometimes they are overwhelmingly supporting Republicans, sometimes they are overwhelmingly supporting Democrats. Times change, so it is best to keep you options open and judge each candidate for what they offer at that point in time.

Additionally, even Republicans and Democrats can put aside their party affiliation for elections. This is especially true for local elections or positions like State Treasurer. Do I care how the State Treasurer feels about abortion? of course not. Do I care about their financial experience and education? You bet.

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I heard Ohio is going to count the early voting votes First.

(Which means they did NOT say, they are counting the voting day, at the polls, votes first.)

(And I don't know what order the Absentee vs. In person day of votes will be counted in succseeion)

But the First two ^ lead to my response that Trump may be not as strong at first as he appears later, in the counting totals.

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GC, Let me address the Thread title, also could be, let me predict the states.
Maine, ( stay like 2016, 3 for Gore 1 pt for Trump

Vermont, it's going for Gore, Biden
Massachusetts, (it's going for Dukakis of course)

New Hampshire, (in spite of a close call, is going for the dems. Kerry)

Rhode Island, solidly Kamala Harris,
and New Yorks going for Biden, (Democrats strong here, no surprises yet.
New Jersey, Connecticutt, Gore,.. Deleware , Biden,
DC and Virginia go for Biden, (Virginia can't find a RINO to vote for so they go D, figures)
So the Dems sweep the NE, Maryland Too goes for Biden.

Except for New Jersey, Maine, and New Hampshire, I don't think the Republicans are even looking at them.
(For some reason I'm thinking New Jersey, and New Hampshire could go for Trump! but I'm not going to predict it because I want to be right)

Continue with the easy ones, other side of the country.
Hawaii goes Democrat, (so solid you could leave the stove on and leave the house no worries)
Alaska goes Republican with the same worry freeness.

The Republicans aren't even campaigning on the coast, California
Oregon,
and Washington go for the Democrats, ( But Oregon raises an eyebrow in some districts, meaningless overall)

Idaho goes for Trump but it's closer than Montana,
Montana-some worries, goes solidly for Trump
Utah-Trump
Wyoming-Trump
Nebraska- (all 5 for Trump, even though the ?(1vote) is talked about, it too will go Trump)
North Dakota
South Dakota,-both vote for Mt Rushmore (Regan, Nixon, W!dubya, and Pence)
Kansas votes for Trump, and the Rams to come back
Missouri votes for Trump, and the Raiders to not come around.
Colorado goes for the democrats, imagine that
New Mexico goes for the democrats, no changes yet

Nevada.. Goes for the democrats, but man the'll try and oversell this one, I don't think it's really in play.

Arizona is going for Trump and the Republcans

Oklahoma and Texas are both going for Trump, I don't think the dems understand cowboys, (I don't either)

Louisana Cajuns are going to Vote for Trump
Mississippi, Trump
Alabama, Trump
Georgia - Trump
Florida- Trump
South Carolina -Trump
North Carolina- Trump
Tennessee -Trump
Arkansas- Trump

Kentucky-Trump
West Virginia- Trump
Indiana- Trump

Illinois, for the Democrats, any of em.
Minnesota for Trump, ... But it won't be decided for 16 days and will be fought until the end with false hopes.

Wisconsin for Trump
Michigan for Trump

Iowa, for Biden, (I blame this on the RNC convention, Trump mentioned the hurricane sufferers expressly, in southern states but ignored the Doratio sufferers in Iowa)

Ohio for Trump,
Pennsylvania for Biden, (because he stole it, but it can't be proven, frown we'll have to accept it sadly)

Did I get all 50 States, Who is Pres, if it goes like that,
Is the outcome waiting on Minnesota?
Are the Dems' still claiming Mich, and Ariz. they aren't getting either one, Trumps lead only grows in their recounts.

I blame Virginia, NY, NJ, you could solve a lot of this,

It's not going to be a landslide folks, I'm most sure of that.
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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
I heard Ohio is going to count the early voting votes First.

(Which means they did NOT say, they are counting the voting day, at the polls, votes first.)

(And I don't know what order the Absentee vs. In person day of votes will be counted in succseeion)

But the First two ^ lead to my response that Trump may be not as strong at first as he appears later, in the counting totals.


In Ohio - I agree. But the E-day votes will likely be counted here (especially in rural areas) by 11PM or so.

Pennsylvania, OTOH, is going to take until at least Friday to totally sort out (though you may be able to make a call before then).


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Originally Posted By: s003apr
Your Mirror:
Originally Posted By: BuckDawg1946

...Hate continues to breed hate...

...We are going to crucify the southern ideology...
...We should have buried them.


Just reflect on it for a bit.

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You are correct, that was hypocritical of me, my bad.


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