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I don't usually talk about drops by receivers all that much, but man, we dropped a lot of passes today. Njoku dropped a easy 1st down pass. Hunt near the end of the game...and Jarvis...he dropped more today then he probably has the rest of his games put together.

One was a sure TD and one could have been a TD...we can call that one a push.

Half way point in the season, 5-3. I'll take it. I think we have a shot at 4-5 more wins, and that is basically with no defense.

Hilarioulsy though Stafanski has almost won as many games as both of them through his first 8.

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security, about as much of a point.

GO BROWNS!!!

Get well soon, everybody, including Myles apparently, Oy Vey!

Our linebackers are killing this team. Our defense would improve greatly if we traded for 2 average lb's. Since ours suck so bad... our D breaks and gets gassed and our offense would have a chance to take the field.

I think I counted 6 drops today? Disgusting.

Yeah, very out of character for Jarvis. Broken ribs are probably playing a factor but I know he won't use it as an excuse.

And I'm pretty sure most on the board would have been happy if someone told us before the season started we would be 5-3 at the bye. Never the less, today's loss still stings as this game just felt so winnable and there were so many missed opportunities. Oh well, on to the next.

I think this is the third game this season it has been out of character for Landry to drop passes.

I recall a couple drops, but nothing like today?

we really need chubb back. hunt is amazing, but we miss that 1-2 punch to really control the flow of the game.

For sure, Hunt is good really good but he's no Chubb. Chubb is an elite talent, a special player that you just can't replace.

And Teller.

Two guys that have been quite bad for us IMO: Larry O and Claiborne ... they don’t give us much

Then when you couple that with a horrid LB and S corp ... and then Myles goes out .. that ain’t good

Yes, been disappointed in Larry, and he's one of my favorite players.

I'm still not convinced these guys are being put in a position to succeed.

Ogunjobi hasn't been very good since his rookie year. He's a league average starter.

Jacksonville is 1-6

The sting is in what to expect two weeks out. The teams who beat us didn't;t expose some mysterious hidden weakness. The showed us rife with holes to take advantage of and we are not closer to Woods figuring out and shutting off the gashing. How often did the run the middle today? Did they need to do much more? Expect more of the same. No lead is safe with this defensive group as it is played.

Beat the trade deadline, please!

1. Njoku can leave now. Tired of him. I give Landry a pass on the drops because it’s out of character for him. Njoku just blows.

2. LBs are lousy, Sendejo made a couple of nice tackles today, but still dreadfully slow in coverage.

3. Ref missed an obvious facemask on a Hunt play down the sideline, near our bench. The zebra down there was looking right at it.

4. Refs aren’t why we lost though. Too many drops, not many stops.

5. Remember off-season when some of us worried about a dearth of LB talent on the roster?

Yet some said linebackers aren’t important in a Joe Woods defence. And now we have what we have.

6. Vernon has a couple of sacks, which was good to see.

I’d have felt much better at 6-2 going into the bye, but 5-3 is pretty damn good for us.

That and Joe Schobert has been really bad this year.

Per PFF:

Overall grade = 38.6
Coverage grade = 29.8
He's ranked 70th of 80 of all LBs

Watching Sendejo try to cover Ruggs on that almost TD was like watching a sloth chase a rabbit.

Yikes.

I will also. A new coaching staff, injuries, new faces behind the face masks. I expected a loss, not sure why but I did.

Not having Chubb, Hooper, OBJ, Tretter fighting a knee issue, Hunt fighting a groin injury on the Offense.

5-3 is better then 3-5. This team needs time to gel. Things will come along. I really hope we don't see the fall apart as in the past.

If we do, I don't expect it to be much.

Face it, we are more than 1-2 players away on D.

I don't know how much a player or two at mid season is going to improve our position all that much, especially long term.

Stefanski and Berry aren't under pressure to win it all this year, so they aren't in trouble. I don't think Depodesta is eager to trade off several decent draft choices for a few band-aids.

We may make a play for the Minnesota safety if the price is right, but you have to remember that Berry and Depo are very much in favor of building through the draft and holding on to draft choices to use in the draft.

If we needed one player to plug and play, they would probably make a move, but we need 3-4 players on D this year. Next year we gain Greedy and Delpit, so things will look different before we select some defensive players in the draft.

JMO

More likely than not according to Stefanski ...

I will take Myles Jack and Anthony Harris what say you?

J/c

Another thing that has seemed to haunt us: dropped INT chances. We seem to have at least 2-3 a game

j/c:

--Disappointing loss. Baltimore and Pittsburgh are really good teams. The Raiders are average, at best.

--The worst thing I am seeing is that we aren't physical enough. We get bullied at times. The Raiders OL beat up our front seven despite being banged-up.

--We did have too many drops, but I bet only two will be counted as drops. I mean, you can say that Landry dropped that one when he got sandwiched by two defenders in the end zone, but that was not a smart throw. And again, Baker put another receiver at risk w/an ill advised throw. The diving one in the end zone was a really hard catch. Landry did drop an easy one and so did Njoku.

--With that said, Baker did not lose this game. He didn't do enough to win it, but this loss was not on him.

--I think the biggest factors in the loss was that they were more physical than us. Also, the wind was a big factor and I think we only had one possession in the third quarter when we had the wind at our back.

Yeah, there’s a discouraging theme ... teams that can bully us basically pin us down and make us useless

We need to get better up front defensively .. at LB defensively ... and at S defensively haha

I was really happy to see signs of life from Vernon (2 sacks, even!), but I think both of those came on the same drive (?), and otherwise, nothing.

Sendejo did make 2 difficult open-field tackles, but was otherwise playing his usual terrible.

But the guy that's really starting to get under my skin is Njoku. Dude absolutely SUCKS at making the big catch when it matters. Ball clanged right off his chest/hands. And he's out there demanding a trade.

I don't know how well/poorly Mayfield played. Tough to tell. I do know everyone around him was pretty bad. I saw our vaunted Oline get handled, overall. The weather played to our strength, but instead we never really got our run game rolling, and they absolutely imposed their will on us. No passing attack, they just slowly marched down the field. Browns are still good at pulling guys out of their ruts.

I'm hoping we can take max advantage of the bye, get healthy and perhaps blame this on being banged up.

I don't think our OL got handled. They played pretty well other than Wills having three penalties.

The thing I'm really struggling with us that one of the teams decided to pound the ball and had great success, on a day that made it hard to throw... and that team wasn't us. Raiders D is very mediocre, and our run game is still tops in the league. Why are we struggling so much? Hunt is not your average backup. Dude has 1 more rushing title than Chubb... so why are we thinking we'll magically be ok when he's back?

I'm holding off on saying anything about Baker... I'm not sure how I feel about his performance. I'm really disappointed in our Oline.

I forgot one thing. Our offense and Baker sure did look a lot better today w/out OBJ holding them back.

Why is that ? Seems a substance for the years past. This Team just can't get physical.

Ohhhh noooo I'm hearing a song, cant get it out of my head now. Dang it. Olivia Newton-John

Not sure if you saw it, but I posted a stat that the Browns earlier this week that the Browns are facing more 7 men in the box sets than any other team in the league. Teams are gearing up to stop the Browns running game and daring them to beat them though the air. That might answer your question, at least partially.

LOL....I hated that song.

Wills three penalties were all at bad times, turning short yardage into long yardage on third down. I believe that if the defense would have got one stop at least, we could have had a different outcome. When the opponent has 7 to 9 minute drives, you will probably lose.

This defense needs to regroup and make some changes. What changes? I don't know. Our LBs, including Mack are horrible. I think the rookie who hurt his knee was the most effective against the run, and he seemed to sniff out screens pretty good.

Disagree on a couple of the Landry ones. The dropped TD was a perfect throw and should have been an easy catch. The one in the end zone at the end was also a perfect throw with Baker trying to make something happen. We absolutely needed a TD there. There wasn't anything ill advised about that throw, but I don't blame Landry for dropping it.

I agree the Raiders are an average team and losing to teams like this is very disappointing. Not sure how you ever get good when you let a team like that come into your building and push you around.

I think that was a great throw by Baker on the one they overruled. It was also a great effort by Landry. It was good coverage. On the other throw, I said ill-advised because he was double covered. It was an accurate throw, but it is kinda hard to blame Landry for not catching it. He got killed.

I did forget that Hunt had an easy drop, though.

We had a chance to make a statement at home in inclement weather against a 3-3 team. And we did.

I was thinking about that earlier. A team from Las Vegas travels east in a bad-weather game and they seem more suited to it than we were.

We both agree that we don't blame Landry for dropping that last one, but we needed our QB to make something happen and he did. That's what we are always asking for and he put it on him. Landry catches that and we have three timeouts and could possibly get one more drive and tie with a FG (probably not with this putrid D).

This is the first loss this year I don't blame the QB.

Succinct, direct, and true.