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Stills may be worth a look
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Sorry guys but I thought Sendejo played his best game Sunday ... That's like being the tallest midget in the circus. I saw him whiff on a couple tackles and still generally suck in coverage. He did make a play on the 2-pt conversion, although both he and the intended receiver were out of bounds.
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Sorry guys but I thought Sendejo played his best game Sunday ... That's like being the tallest midget in the circus. I saw him whiff on a couple tackles and still generally suck in coverage. He did make a play on the 2-pt conversion, although both he and the intended receiver were out of bounds. Overall it was his best game IMO and he graded out pretty high and that 2 Point conversion was a pretty important stop 
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He also lines up our defense. While he is not a very good Safety, he does know our defense and helps out others.
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✅Landry: 94.5!!
✅Chubb: 88.2
✅Hodge: 79.8
✅Mayfield: 78.9
✅Bitonio: 78.8
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🟥J. Elliot: 39.8
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that 2 Point conversion was a pretty important stop It wasn't a "stop". The receiver was out of bounds, and so was he.
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The receiver was probably afraid to go up against him!!! 
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Sendejo had his first pass breakup of the season on Sunday. He hadn’t had one the previous 675 snaps. He’s a starting free safety.
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that 2 Point conversion was a pretty important stop It wasn't a "stop". The receiver was out of bounds, and so was he. lol you just won't give him any credit will you
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Okay - he broke up an incomplete pass - happy?
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Sendejo had his first pass breakup of the season on Sunday. He hadn’t had one the previous 675 snaps. He’s a starting free safety. Yikes.
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Sendejo had his first pass breakup of the season on Sunday. He hadn’t had one the previous 675 snaps. He’s a starting free safety. I heard this on the radio today. Yowsers.
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I don't think we need him, but it can't hurt if he improves the roster... the thing is, who does he take playing time away from this late in the season??
Probably nobody. Did you see Tavier Tyrod taylor Thomas, WR, drop a pass vs the Jaguars in the 2nd quarter this week? The Browns wr's aren't exactly as good as the 1994 Browns teams' wr's were.
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that 2 Point conversion was a pretty important stop It wasn't a "stop". The receiver was out of bounds, and so was he. lol you just won't give him any credit will you I don't think I've ever seen a Db do less than Sendejo, sometimes I feel like he's another referee standing back there, not even any bad plays, just lurking. I remember complaints about Peppers lining up in lake erie, but at least he would swim after the snap. I don't know how this team is 8-3. (maybe Sendejo is "jumpin jack flash" until the camera gets him in view.)
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Sendejo had his first pass breakup of the season on Sunday. He hadn’t had one the previous 675 snaps. He’s a starting free safety. This. Is that serious, whoa you think one woulda hit him in the head. He's played every, game.
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that 2 Point conversion was a pretty important stop It wasn't a "stop". The receiver was out of bounds, and so was he. lol you just won't give him any credit will you he had nothing to do with that 2 point conversion failing. As Dave said, the receiver was already out of the back of the end zone. And so was Sandejo when he came down with the ball. What credit does he deserve for that?
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As to waiver position, weren't we in the 20s? If we actually were awarded the guy then there must not have been a lot of interest in him. Probably because not that many teams are down 3-4 safeties due to injuries, and also because ... Sendejo. But I am sure there are teams out there down 1 safety. But there is only one Sandejo.
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The Browns wr's aren't exactly as good as the 1994 Browns teams' wr's were. I had to look this up. We had Michael Jackson and Derrick Alexander starting in 1994. Keenan McCardell (who went on to be a great receiver after the following year), had only 10 receptions for us that year. What are you talking about?
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that 2 Point conversion was a pretty important stop It wasn't a "stop". The receiver was out of bounds, and so was he. lol you just won't give him any credit will you he had nothing to do with that 2 point conversion failing. As Dave said, the receiver was already out of the back of the end zone. And so was Sandejo when he came down with the ball. What credit does he deserve for that? I'm certainly not disagreeing with your comments there^. However, he was - inexplicably - in position to prevent the completion. Maybe that is only because the WR was squeezed out-of-bounds allowing Sandejo to get there...maybe not...but he was in position to stop the pass...somehow.
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Just going from my young memory, Jackson was a big play threat, but had dumb drops too. Alexander was a rookie (or maybe 2nd year?) and was just OK. McCardell wasn’t ready yet. Did we also have Carrier? Or was he gone already?
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Carrier might have been on that team. Still, just having Landry puts us miles ahead of that bunch. Jackson was a poor man's Leon. Would make a difficult catch once in a while and drop the easy ones.
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Kind of want to do a comparison of the 94 vs 2020 Browns. (especially they used 4 tight ends that year also.
... In usage, Metcalf (Eric, Metcalf) was used often enough as a WR, as much as a RB.
If, Since Odell is out, the 94 Browns Wr's were clearly better.
I seem to forget one, maybe it was Carrier, if Carrier was there I'm not counting him, but they had a plethora of guys #1 type reliability.
and, Vinny Testaverde was pretty good under Bellichic that year.
in Usage, Andre Rison,
Michael Jackson,
Eric Metcalf,
Derrick Anderson, (Rookie or 2nd year, was a later 1st rd selection of two the same year)
Keenan McCardell coming off the bench, about like when Hodge comes off the bench when Odell was still healthy (McCardell was Money coming off the bench he was really special that year.)
if Mark Carrier was there at the time, that would be the one I always forget.
I'd take any of those as equal to or better than Vice Grips and Higgins, and, I really like Jarvis Landry and Rashad Higgins,
but, Hodge, Taywan, and Peoples-Jones, are still growing into reliability. IMO.
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You Perked my interest THROW, so I looked it up and you were right, Mark Carrier was on that team, He had 29 Catches for 452 YDS and 6 TD's, it was Derrick Alexander not Anderson and you were right Leroy Hoard Got most of the RB duties with Metcalf as more of a Receiver ... Metcalf had 93 Carries for 329 YDS and 2 TD's while Hoard has 209 Carries for 890 YDS and 5 TD's, they were close in Receptions with Metcalf grabbing 47 balls for 436 YPC and 3 TD's while Hoard had 45 Catches for 445 YDS and 4 TD's
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We also had a pretty good OL also:
LT Tony Jones
LG Doug Dawson
C Steve Everitt
RG Bob Dahl
RT Gene Williams
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Kind of want to do a comparison of the 94 vs 2020 Browns. (especially they used 4 tight ends that year also.
... In usage, Metcalf (Eric, Metcalf) was used often enough as a WR, as much as a RB.
If, Since Odell is out, the 94 Browns Wr's were clearly better.
I seem to forget one, maybe it was Carrier, if Carrier was there I'm not counting him, but they had a plethora of guys #1 type reliability.
and, Vinny Testaverde was pretty good under Bellichic that year.
in Usage, Andre Rison,
Michael Jackson,
Eric Metcalf,
Derrick Anderson, (Rookie or 2nd year, was a later 1st rd selection of two the same year)
Keenan McCardell coming off the bench, about like when Hodge comes off the bench when Odell was still healthy (McCardell was Money coming off the bench he was really special that year.)
if Mark Carrier was there at the time, that would be the one I always forget.
I'd take any of those as equal to or better than Vice Grips and Higgins, and, I really like Jarvis Landry and Rashad Higgins,
but, Hodge, Taywan, and Peoples-Jones, are still growing into reliability. IMO. Now stop it. What you're posting is not based in reality. Rison didn't sign with the Browns until the 95 season. McCardell only had 10 receptions that year. It's Derrick Alexander, Derek Anderson was a qb. Anyway, he had 2 TD receptions. Carrier was on the team and had 29 receptions. Our "star" receiver was Michael Jackson who dropped a LOT of passes. He had 21 receptions and 2 TD's. No one in their right mind would swap that bunch for what we have now.
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I believe he has been awful regularly. If he is lining us up correctly, then why are we struggling so? He has some value to the unit, but we need to carry him way too much of the time. JMHO
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Which year did they go to the playoffs and beat the Patriots, after December 94, or December 93?
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Which year did they go to the playoffs and beat the Patriots, after December 94, or December 93? it was the 94 season, so it may have been January 95
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They beat the Pats in January of "95. It was the "94 season. Then, as usual, we lost to the Steelers for the 3rd time that year 29-9
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So, Andre Rison, was not on the team when they won the last playoff game vs the Patriots, but at some point Andre Rison joined that eras team as a free agent, and todays Wr's aren't as good as whatever day that was, As far as I'm concerned, they had 4+ top notch Wr's on the team at one point in the 1994-5 season and they haven't had as good since, with an honorable mention to the 4 of 5 remaining all 2nd rounders of the Kevin Johnson, to Quincy Morgan, / Andre Davis,/ Dennis Northcutt,/ JuJuan Dawson who didn't come back, short time era. I thought Rison, was on that playoff team, my bad. At some point they were all on the team, except Carrier might have left, right? either way---- the 1994-1995 OL? How about the top 8 members of their front 4 DL 8 starting caliber members.
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Any line up with Stone Hands Morgan in it deserves an honorable mention alright - but not in a positive light. Kevin Johnson caught everything - but had no speed or separation. Northcutt was a nimble 170lbs soaking wet injury waiting to happen. I remember cringing any time he was returning kicks/punts.
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Wow ... I really don't remember KJ being cut midseason by Butch Davis? Anyone remember the issue? Says he was claimed by 16 teams on waiver - went to the Jags who traded him for a 4th round pick. What a waste by Butch.
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Wow ... I really don't remember KJ being cut midseason by Butch Davis? Anyone remember the issue? Says he was claimed by 16 teams on waiver - went to the Jags who traded him for a 4th round pick. What a waste by Butch. yeah he was cut right in the middle of the season. It was a pretty unfavorable move IIRC
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Wow ... I really don't remember KJ being cut midseason by Butch Davis? Anyone remember the issue? Says he was claimed by 16 teams on waiver - went to the Jags who traded him for a 4th round pick. What a waste by Butch. yeah he was cut right in the middle of the season. It was a pretty unfavorable move IIRC It wasn't long after that, I believe, that Butch had his mental breakdown and was no longer the coach. I think KJ was basically calling Butch out behind closed doors for the way he folded in the playoff game against Pittsburgh by having us go Prevent in the first half.
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Wow ... I really don't remember KJ being cut midseason by Butch Davis? Anyone remember the issue? Says he was claimed by 16 teams on waiver - went to the Jags who traded him for a 4th round pick. What a waste by Butch. yeah he was cut right in the middle of the season. It was a pretty unfavorable move IIRC IIRC, there was also some bad blood between him and William Green, who was drafted by Butch, so we all know who Butch was going to favor.
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I forgot about that. There was definitely bad blood.... some of which may be the scissors in his back from falling up the stairs (while his girlfriend was behind him).
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William Green was such an immature punk when he was here. He was totally not ready or worthy of being drafted in the 1st round. Drafting “his” guys was a big flaw of Butch.
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William Green was such an immature punk when he was here. He was totally not ready or worthy of being drafted in the 1st round. Drafting “his” guys was a big flaw of Butch. he had a lot of personal issues
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Butch allowed his ego to interfere with making sound football decisions.
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