So glad the coup attempt is now over. I can finally stop pounding Trump every second of every day and get started on Biden's centrist corporatist ass. Back to normal... the same old crap that got us Trump in the first place and put us in the shape we are in... His cabinet is less than impressive and as usual, no progressives in prominent positions! Screw Biden and his horse.
Now, why do you have to bring his horse into this???
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
So the party that wants national lockdowns, businesses destroyed, people without masks fined, houses inspected for having too many people, cops parked outside of churches and gyms to enforce compliance.. we still cool with that?
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So again, I hope all of you who voted for Trump and GOP candidates feel proud that you voted for fascism.
Words have no meaning any more... I would like for you to go find me the last time real fascism was removed from power because it held a fair election, and lost, then challenged it through the lawful court system, and lost... no buildings swarmed, no shots fired, no skulls cracked... just removed from power through the existing legal system while blustering like a 5 year old...
Whether or not there was originally some hyperbole in the original post you responded to I'll leave for you and the OP to discuss....
Ignoring that Trump is baselessly undermining the election process and spreading poison through his brainless Cult who will believe what he says regardless of facts by saying he's doing this through the legal/court system is spurious at best.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
There - just heard a snippet from TV which I haven't watched for 3 weeks .... Trump has managed to convince 80% of Republicans (so 80% of the 40% that voted for him) that the election is illegitimate .... He is a total, utter, contemptable douche and anyone who thinks he has anything but his own self interest at the heart of everything he says and does is fat, plain stupid. Hate to insult people - but it's the g-damn truth.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
There - just heard a snippet from TV which I haven't watched for 3 weeks .... Trump has managed to convince 80% of Republicans (so 80% of the 40% that voted for him) that the election is illegitimate .... He is a total, utter, contemptable douche and anyone who thinks he has anything but his own self interest at the heart of everything he says and does is fat, plain stupid. Hate to insult people - but it's the g-damn truth.
If that is true, then Republican should not vote any longer.
I’ve told this anecdote before and I’ll tell it again.
Back in the summer of 2016, I visited Washington D.C. for the first time in my adult life. I visited twice before, both for school related activities at various levels, but this time I visited with a much greater understanding of the system.
I wanted to see the things that I didn’t get to experience those two prior times. The Holocaust Memorial museum became my #1 priority. I almost missed out on a ticket to enter but a kind individual gave me his extra ticket for entry. It was a timed entrance to the main exhibit hall, so I explored what I could of the interior before it was my time to enter.
As I walked around the atrium I met two survivors of the Holocaust. Both individuals displayed their marks of their battle with fascism with the ink on their arms. I had a chance to talk with one of the two and she implored me to use her poetry in the classroom so students knew of the struggle. The person prior to me asked her about Trump and she shook her head. She responded that she did not wish to talk about him. I didn’t ask either as I felt it was inappropriate to even broach the subject.
The second individual was a man who sat in the main atrium. As I went to talk with him, I once again waited in a line. A family of four decked out in MAGA gear from head to toe walked past the table where the man sat and he shook his head. I overheard his conversation with the young people he was talking with, and he mentioned that Mr. Trump concerns him and that he better be careful. He mentioned how there were similarities to what he saw in Germany to the language being used by Trump and his associates. That floored me as I listened to the conversation.
As you’ve known through the years, I try to reach the source and experts on what I’m unfamiliar with. It’s the same reason why we’ve exchanged PMs since 2011 as well as why I try to make an effort with multiple posters who are willing to talk and listen.
When I saw the reaction of the survivors of the Holocaust to Trump related topics, that told me a lot of what I didn’t know.
Trust me, DC. I do not use the fascist word lightly.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Exclusive — Trump Lawyer Jenna Ellis Receives Threats: ‘You Deserved to Be Raped’
Joel B. Pollak
26 Nov 2020
Jenna Ellis, a legal advisor to President Donald Trump and senior legal adviser to the Trump campaign, has received threats, late night phone calls from unfamiliar numbers, and public calls for her disbarment, she told Breitbart News exclusively Wednesday.
Via direct message (DM), Ellis told Breitbart News that she had received “Hundreds of DMs and messages etc threatening me.”
Some threats have been public, like attempts to have her disbarred and encouraging the public to file Bar complaints.
Others have been more direct — and less subtle.
She added: “CNN reporter messaged today accusing me of my bar license being lapsed. Unknown number has called my cell dozens of times between midnight and 4am to blow up my phone and try to get through the DND [do not disturb].”
Ellis provided Breitbart News with a screen grab of text messages from an unknown person who attempted to provoke her to respond, ending with: “You’re a f**king c**t. You’re the reason people despise humanity. You deserved to be raped.”
Other Trump attorneys have been harassed, including by the Lincoln Project, a group of Never Trump Republicans who have encouraged the public to harass law firms taking up the president’s case.
The mainstream media has defended these efforts; the Washington Post, for example, published an op-ed Nov. 12 titled “Yes, going after Trump’s law firms is fair game.” Trump’s lawyers in Pennsylvania withdrew the following day, reportedly because of threats.
Joe Biden has not said anything about the threats against Trump’s legal team, as scholar Jonathan Turley has noted.
…While Biden called for unity and healing, he has said nothing about the campaign against Trump lawyers and their clients. No law firms or lawyers have publicly withdrawn their support for the Lincoln Project. The silence speaks loudly to our loss of civility and decency.
— Jonathan Turley (@JonathanTurley) November 19, 2020
“When such actions were taken against lawyers representing civil rights groups and others in the 1960s, it was correctly denounced as an outrageous abuse of our legal system,” Turley tweeted this week. “Now it has become a campaign supported by politicians, lawyers, and the media.”
So no proof of fraud. Instead we get a "news" story that's about some random idiot posting a mean message on social media? That's the best you've got? Really. Wow.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Oh and somehow Biden gets criticized because he hasn't made a comment about the random idiot that made a mean comment on the social media. . . . . And you post the article as if it means something. Pfffffft
The more things change the more they stay the same.
But really, that’s disgusting that people act this way. Humanity is nearly lost in this country.
Yes it is awful behavior. But let's take a leaf out of the GOP playbook, and suggest that maybe it was really a Republican or Trump supporter that posted that so that they could claim to be victims. No one can prove otherwise
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Constant attacks from moderates on both sides and the far right create most of the issues on the left. Progressives want nothing more than for everybody to have what they need and a good quality life for all. I know that is some radical thinking when the center prefers a return to the normal class (cast), racial, monetary, political, and religious divides propagated by the policies of a capitalist oligarchy determined to stay in power at any cost.
Constant attacks from moderates on both sides and the far right create most of the issues on the left. Progressives want nothing more than for everybody to have what they need and a good quality life for all. I know that is some radical thinking when the center prefers a return to the normal class (cast), racial, monetary, political, and religious divides propagated by the policies of a capitalist oligarchy determined to stay in power at any cost.
But I digress, carry on.
The radical left demands everyone agree with their point of view or they start issuing death threats, bullying, and having hysterical meltdowns. Not to mention riots, looting, and arson.
Nah. Just like the riots, the right is instigating and laying blame for the most part. You would know that if you weren't so clueless. Sure there are rotten apples, but nobody is trying to usher in a dictator or fascism on the left.
And you are correct that the left is very entitled. They feel entitled to money they didnt earn, services they didnt earn, and they feel the rest of the country should be burdened with their non-contributing parasite asses. A bunch of greedy losers with outstretched hands.
And you are correct that the left is very entitled. They feel entitled to money they didnt earn, services they didnt earn, and the rest of the country should be burdened with their non-contributing parasite asses. A bunch of greedy losers with outstretched hands.
^ And this is the perfect example of the "Me" thinking the right does. Never the greater good, always me, me, me...
So you're saying that taking care of people, making medical care, clothing, housing, food, and education basic human rights is selfish and unworthy because it might cost you something? smh.
And you are correct that the left is very entitled. They feel entitled to money they didnt earn, services they didnt earn, and the rest of the country should be burdened with their non-contributing parasite asses. A bunch of greedy losers with outstretched hands.
^ And this is the perfect example of the "Me" thinking the right does. Never the greater good, always me, me, me...
"Me" thinking is the left "The country owes ME a living. The country owes ME free everything. I dont have to earn anything for ME. I feel entitled to everyone elses stuff and they better give it to ME for free. And the success bar needs to be set really low because I dont want to work for it. If anyone disagrees with ME I will throw a tanty"
And you are correct that the left is very entitled. They feel entitled to money they didnt earn, services they didnt earn, and the rest of the country should be burdened with their non-contributing parasite asses. A bunch of greedy losers with outstretched hands.
^ And this is the perfect example of the "Me" thinking the right does. Never the greater good, always me, me, me...
"Me" thinking is the left "the country owes me a living. the country owes me free everything. i dont have to earn anything for me. and the success bar needs to be set really low."
Oh, I can't lay my hands on the numbers but I would BET that the left generates way more tax revenue and adds more to GDP than the right, way more. And all those RED states that suck off the government teat are funded mostly by blue states and the left. But do carry on, I enjoy your cynical potshots.
And you are correct that the left is very entitled. They feel entitled to money they didnt earn, services they didnt earn, and the rest of the country should be burdened with their non-contributing parasite asses. A bunch of greedy losers with outstretched hands.
^ And this is the perfect example of the "Me" thinking the right does. Never the greater good, always me, me, me...
"Me" thinking is the left "the country owes me a living. the country owes me free everything. i dont have to earn anything for me. and the success bar needs to be set really low."
Oh, I can't lay my hands on the numbers but I would BET that the left generates way more tax revenue and adds more to GDP than the right, way more. And all those RED states that suck off the government teat are funded mostly by blue states and the left. But do carry on, I enjoy your cynical potshots.
You cant lay your hands on those numbers because they dont exist. The left is nothing but a bunch of losers with their hands out feeing entitled to things they didnt earn. Its sad the rest of the country has to put up with it.
You cant lay your hands on those numbers because they dont exist. The left is nothing but a bunch of losers with their hands out feeing entitled to things they didnt earn. Its sad the rest of the country has to put up with it.
These charts show how Democrats represent the growing modern economy – and how Republicans are left behind
Among other results, this year's midterm elections affirmed this much: in Washington, the two parties now speak for dramatically different segments of the American economy.
Republicans represent the smaller, fading segment, with less-educated, more-homogenous work forces reliant on traditional manufacturing, agriculture and resource extraction. Democrats represent the larger, growing one, fueled by finance, professional services and digital innovation in diverse urban areas.
The 2016 presidential race had signaled as much. Donald Trump carried 2,584 counties across the country, but calculations by scholars at the Brookings Institution showed that the 472 counties Hillary Clinton carried accounted for nearly two-thirds of U.S. economic output.
Now, new Brookings calculations show the same from 2018 House elections. With a few races still undecided, districts won by Democrats account for 61 percent of America's gross domestic product, districts won by Republicans 38 percent.
That economic separation underpins cultural divisions that usually command more attention. Says Brookings researcher Mark Muro: "The Democratic Party and Republican Party, at this point, really do occupy different economic worlds and represent different economic worlds."
Analysis by the Brookings Metropolitan Policy Program documents the gap between them. Residents of districts won by Democrats generate 22% more output per worker, and have a 15% higher median household income.
In Democratic districts, 35 percent of residents have college degrees, compared to 28 percent in Republican districts. Employees are less likely to work in manufacturing (7.2 percent in blue districts, 11 percent in red districts) and more likely to work in digital services (2.5 percent compared to 1.1 percent).
Blue districts have attracted the expanding segments of the U.S. population and workforce; half their residents are non-white. Red districts are 27 percent non-white.
The new Congress starkly demonstrates those differences. Nine of 10 of House Republicans will be white men, calculates David Wasserman of the Cook Political Report, compared to just over one-third of House Democrats.
This array of measures reflects the concentration of Democrats in metropolitan centers and Republicans in small towns and rural communities. Population density in blue districts is nearly five times the level in red ones.
Comparing the 19 states that have elected two Democratic senators to the 21 with two Republicans shows similar disparities. The eight most affluent areas Muro calls "superstar metros" display an even greater partisan tilt.
Those eight – Boston; Bridgeport, Conn.; New York; San Francisco; San Jose; Seattle; Trenton N.J.; and Washington, D.C. – accounted for 16.4 percent of national job growth and 35.7 percent of digital services job growth between 2010 and 2017. Not a single Republican senator represents any of them. Of their combined 81 House seats, Democrats won 71 last week.
That makes economic divergence as central to 21st century polarization as race, gender and religion. And it highlights challenges for both parties as a Democratic House and Republican Senate share power in Congress.
Within the Democratic Party, it fuels tension between trade-friendly metropolitan economies and historic industrial union allies seeking trade protection. Less-affluent Democrats bridle at how booming tech firms – such as Amazon, which announced new headquarters for New York and the Washington suburbs this week – widen income inequality and price the working-class residents out of their communities.
Between the parties, economic divergence pits Democrats promoting investments in research, skills training and infrastructure against Republicans resistant to taxes and spending. Those clashes cloud prospects for boosting productivity, growth and global competitiveness.
"The advancing parts of the economy have to ask permission from the rear-view mirror parts of the economy to get the inputs they need," Muro says. "That's a problem our competitors don't have."
At the same time, the GOP's small-government ethos constrains its ability to boost the struggling economic constituencies that Republicans represent. In 2016, for example, candidate Trump pledged to revive coal mining communities through deregulation rather than investment.
But coal mining employment has not reversed its long-term decline, and the government projects falling coal consumption this year and next. Owners of unprofitable coal-fired power plants have shuttered them at a record rate in 2018.
Muro has co-authored a forthcoming study on ways to narrow the geographic divide. It advocates a "place-sensitive" strategy targeting economic development toward 10-12 mid-sized "heartland metros," and subsidies to make relocation more affordable for individual workers pursuing greater opportunity.
Success, he concludes, depends on calming economic conflict as well as culture wars.
"The two parties are speaking past each other on economic issues," Muro says. "Can these two economic factions arrive at some kind of armistice that can spur broad American prosperity going forward?"
Y’all two going back and forth like the food was trash today.
Who burnt the Mac n cheese?
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
That study is obviously incorrect since "dem districts" tend to be urban areas that have the most white collar industry jobs, and the most minorities to vote D. Its not rocket science. But feel free to twist it.
That study is obviously incorrect since "dem districts" tend to be urban areas that have the most white collar industry jobs, and the most minorities to vote D. Its not rocket science. But feel free to twist it.
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Originally Posted By: Swish
Y’all two going back and forth like the food was trash today.
Who burnt the Mac n cheese?
I'm bored. The football games were boring today.
Weak argument based on your feelings and no facts. But that's par for the course with you.
That study is obviously incorrect since "dem districts" tend to be urban areas that have the most white collar industry jobs, and the most minorities to vote D. Its not rocket science. But feel free to twist it.
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Originally Posted By: Swish
Y’all two going back and forth like the food was trash today.
Who burnt the Mac n cheese?
I'm bored. The football games were boring today.
Weak argument based on your feelings and no facts. But that's par for the course with you.
Lets keep it real. If the ravens and steelers played today, it would have been far more interesting than those bottom feeder teams playing.
And you are correct that the left is very entitled. They feel entitled to money they didnt earn, services they didnt earn, and the rest of the country should be burdened with their non-contributing parasite asses. A bunch of greedy losers with outstretched hands.
^ And this is the perfect example of the "Me" thinking the right does. Never the greater good, always me, me, me...
"Me" thinking is the left "The country owes ME a living. The country owes ME free everything. I dont have to earn anything for ME. I feel entitled to everyone elses stuff and they better give it to ME for free. And the success bar needs to be set really low because I dont want to work for it. If anyone disagrees with ME I will throw a tanty"
I dispute statements such as this. I grew up without a nickel to my name a know what it was like to live on welfare and food stamps. I was thankful for them. I wound up getting social security benefits and giving to my parents as rent during college. I wound up with grants and loans to go to college and paid them back. To date I have never taken a damn cent of unemployment, and quite frankly ithe money that I received from government programs was the best damn investment that this government ever made.
It’s not where you start in life as my dad would say, and it’s a long road that has many turns. Sometimes things are not what they seem, and for me thankfully my situation was only the first part of my life.
So I understand these things far better than most. I learned not to assume anything about anyone.
Last edited by ChargerDawg; 11/26/2010:56 PM. Reason: Clarity
And you are correct that the left is very entitled. They feel entitled to money they didnt earn, services they didnt earn, and the rest of the country should be burdened with their non-contributing parasite asses. A bunch of greedy losers with outstretched hands.
^ And this is the perfect example of the "Me" thinking the right does. Never the greater good, always me, me, me...
"Me" thinking is the left "The country owes ME a living. The country owes ME free everything. I dont have to earn anything for ME. I feel entitled to everyone elses stuff and they better give it to ME for free. And the success bar needs to be set really low because I dont want to work for it. If anyone disagrees with ME I will throw a tanty"
I dispute statements such as this. I grew up without a nickel to my name a know what it was like to live on welfare and food stamps. I was thankful for them. I wound up getting social security benefits and giving to my parents as rent during college. I wound up with grants and loans to go to college and paid them back. To date I have never taken a damn cent of unemployment, and quite frankly it was the best damn investment that this government ever made.
It’s not where you start in life as my dad would say, and it’s a long road that has many turns. Sometimes things are not what they seem, and for me thankfully my situation was only the first part of my life.
So I understand these things far better than most. I learned not to assume anything about anyone.
So, what you are saying is the current system isnt broken.
As long there are people like you around, who think that the poor actually choose to be poor it will be broken.
I dont think poor people choose to be poor. I think they need to have a system that makes it possible to better themselves. Which there is. As you proved. But handing poor people "a life taken care of" by a nanny state just makes for lazy people sitting around on the tax payers dime. They have no incentive to better themselves.
After I got divorced, and was paying child support but did have my son as a dependent........I found out I qualified for programs - food stamps being one of them. I never got any benefits.
Here recently, covid stuff back in March..........my work pretty much stopped. Self employed, I didn't qualify for unemployment until a month or 2 later when they changed things for self employed people.
Problem is/was: Playing by the rules meant that I couldn't work, and if I did, I'd have to report the income I made. Those were the rules. Those were the rules I followed and decided "know what? That $600 a week I might qualify for? To get it, I'd have to lie about my $400 to $500 income each week. If I got caught lying about that, I'd be in trouble. So, I could refuse those jobs, and if the gov't. found out I was available to work, but turning down jobs to get unemployment, I'd be in trouble."
I did accept unemployment 1 time. For 3 weeks. That was over 17 years ago.
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