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Not saying one way or another (because if this team has taught us anything over the last decade it's that the disappointment can only be truly devastating when you begin to have hope), but I will say that this rematch against the Ravens (and the Steelers later on) could be a nice confirmation of this team's (and Baker's) growth through the season. The bar was set fairly low in those first games, but coming out and just playing well will be confirmation for me that we're headed solidly in the right direction.

THROW,
I think you're broken. I'm sorry man. So many things wrong with your rants, unless you are simply trolling. But I'll just poke 1 hole in your blanket of doom...maybe it'll let in some air so you can breathe.

The Dolphins will not go 11-5. They do not have the offense to keep up with the Chiefs. They're at best 50-50 in the Raiders & Bills games, and given what Belicheck does to rookie QBs, the Patriots game is not a given either. I give them an equal shot of 1-3 and 2-2 in the final quarter.


Like the rest of you, though, I do hope the Browns can eliminate remaining uncertainty by winning on Monday night.

Bleep That!!!!!!

( I was watching a movie a Christmas story, there was this one part in it.)

This kind of chance to make a run hasn't come around for the Browns for TWENTY SIX YEARS!!!!!

any you want to live with close fought defeat when your #1 scenario probablility is you are going to Miss the Playoffs,

Miss the Playoffs at 11-5!!!! And it is going to happen because of THIS GAME!!!
vs. the Ravens.

And I'm NOT overreacting, because Losing this game and then missing the playoffs, is going to Suck on a level,
we've never seen before. (Cleveland has never seen before)

We've gone 1-31.

We went from Baker's rookie year right into the year of Freddie.


We've seen it.

The Browns missed the playoffs going 10-6 in 2007.

Hey, Kansas City plays Saints, Dolphins, Chargers (who play shockingly well against the Chiefs every time for some reason), and Falcons.

It's POSSIBLE we take the #1 Seed :-P


I know I know, that's insane, I'm just enjoying the fact that it's DECEMBER AND WE'RE NOT MATHEMATICALLY ELIMINATED FROM THE #1 SEED YET!

They've never missed them going 11-5 but they will this year. Watch! (Diam's ~L~) that is the thing we've never seen before.

That's the cherry on top of the icing of devastation that the league plans to heap on Cleveland's history of woes;
a 68.75 winning percentage and no playoffs.

Back in 1985 we made the playoffs with an 8-8 record because we won the division. Denver finished 11-5, 2nd place in their division and didn't make the playoffs. You can look it up.

You are completely overreacting because this is Cleveland.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

Enjoy the journey; things are just starting to get good.

And we damn near beat the Dolphins in those playoffs behind a monster game from Ernest Byner!

All we needed to do was pick up one more 1st down and we couldn't do it. We had like next to nothing for a passing game. Bernies 1st year. Saturday afternoon game as I remember.

I wasn’t even a browns fan then but I remember that game.

And then we would have a hosted a Patriots team (that we had earlier defeated in their house) for a trip to the SB!

There are only 3 AFC teams that can remove doubts about a playoff berth by the end of the night Monday night, maybe a 4th, (and they already don't have doubts)

1. Chiefs or Steelers take your pick
2. Steelers or Chiefs take your pick

3. The Bills,
4. Maybe the Ravens.

Everybody else I didn't name is fighting for a less than 50% chance to get ANY of the 3 spots with 6 teams.

Once I saw lamar Jacson come back, I knew the Browns were out of the playoffs for the year.

People may not understand, this Ravens Browns matchup is the last meaningful game of the season for the Ravens

They have no other adversity to contemplate until they reach their playoff game so,

Ravens, we know, on MNF, are going to bring 20 different types of blitzes and Baker is going to be in the terf 6 times at least.

The Browns, don't have a possesson passing game that can move the ball by 30 short passes, (quick hot reads that end up complete)(not, mostly, screens) in the meat time of the game, which is necessary.

The Browns haven't beaten the Ravens in 20 years,
and they haven't beaten the Steelers with Ben in 20 years, and even though they'll be 11-4 they'll lose and miss the playoffs,
because that's what the league wants, the league wants week 17 to be some magical science experiment where the Patriots get a berth and the Browns don't

Ohio against the world. The East coast is an unjust, untrustworthy pile of back room deals

The referee calls in the upcoming new jersey games are going to make that earlier game, Philly or Jax, I forget, look like childs play.

The winless Jets are going to beat you because it's 3 days after Christmas and you beat the chargers on Christmas for your only win.

If, you lose to the Jets, you watch the Dolphins and or Patriots take your spot with the same record because that would be the tie break.

I suspect it is why they delayed the Ravens season for 16 days approx.

Because we live in Bizarro world where only Ohio gets poured on every year, unless they're not involved and it is some other midwest town.

I'm having a melt down because I realize the Browns are going to get screwed out of the playoffs.
Probably others will have their melt downs later, when it occurs.

Browns are too good of a team this year to get screwed like this.

The division alignment helps perpetrate it.

It may be another 25 years before they have a similar opportunity.

Yes because we were a division winner and they a wild card. That game was another in a long line of tough playoff losses.

we won't get screwed. just enjoy the ride.

The Browns haven't beaten the Ravens in 20 years

We are 2-3 against the Ravens since 2018 so be careful painting with such a broad brush

09/13/2020 Cleveland Browns 6 Baltimore Ravens 38 L

12/22/2019 Baltimore Ravens 31 Cleveland Browns 15 L

09/29/2019 Cleveland Browns 40 Baltimore Ravens 25 W

12/30/2018 Cleveland Browns 24 Baltimore Ravens 26 L

10/07/2018 Baltimore Ravens 9 Cleveland Browns 12 W/OT

We are literally the team that showed everyone the blueprint for beating Lamar Jackson. We've split with Baltimore each of the last two seasons, and we're going to split with them this season, too.

Playoff Machine says a Steelers loss to Bengals and Browns winning out means Division winner for Browns (same record, same division record, better record against common opponents).

"In 87 of today's 20,000 FPI simulations an 11-win AFC team missed the playoffs. Happened to the Colts 57 times, Browns 21 times and Ravens 9 times.:

That was from ESPN. I'm going out on a limb to say that the Browns end up at 11-5 in roughly half of the 20,000 simulations. So, IF we get to 11 wins, we have a roughly 20 in 10,000 chance of not making the playoffs, or 1 in 500.

I like those odds. Stop being a "Chicken Little."

Hey guys! I'm new to your board. Hope you all can appreciate a friendly Jets fan. I'm an active poster on a Jets board and I wanted to ask you dedicated Browns fans a question.

While all of you are celebrating a playoff hunt--we are competing for a first overall pick. So here is my question regarding our game with you coming up and your playoff hunt:

Would there be any scenario where you guys would sit starters for our week 16 game?

Our fear is if you guys have locked in seeding that early, why play guys like Baker, Chubb, Landry etc.? Especially if the division wasn't a consideration either.

I know how exciting it is being in your position from our Rex Ryan early years, happy for you guys! Feel free to ask me Jets questions as we get closer to the game--I know my team too well!

Here is to you guys beating the snot out of us!

I don't feel the Browns will be in any position of sitting players to prepare for a playoff run. That sounds Twilight Zone to me.

Sorry you got Gased.

Welcome to the forums.

Welcome bud ... no chance we’d sit starters. We won’t have anything clinched yet, plus we’d never risk having that 7th seed.

I expect the Browns/Jets to be a good game. We have trouble beating anybody by a lot, even if we’re up (as you saw last week).

For you guys’ sake, I hope Gase is gone and you get Lawrence

In other words... pretty much like now, right?

Thanks!

It's reassuring to hear we should get your guys best for our game--my thinking was if you beat Baltimore and Giants, you might be able to get away with resting some players our game if it was needed.

And yes, been a fan since 1997 and Gase has pissed our fan base off more than any coach in memory. Greg Williams saved the day this weekend--ha!

Thanks!

Yes, I'm expecting a tough, blue collar type of ball game. Our Dline is very formidable, but your Oline is playing at an elite level right now. If you guys stay healthy, that Oline is a handful for any team.

Our secondary is a bunch of undrafted free agents--except for Marcus Maye. So you will have chances for explosives in the pass game as well.

Hopefully we get a tough Browns teams that day that wants to give the winless ball club title to a new team--

We will need 0-16 for Lawrence--the Jags won't win another.

If you can appreciate, No, because my low tech paperwork,
Clearly shows, The Browns are competing with the Patriots for a playoff spot who did not sit their starters in a week 9 game against the Jets and won't in week 17 either. (In fact, the Jets are a big contributor as to why the Browns don't hold a tie break against either the Pats OR the dolphins.
but the Browns are looking up at the Pats AND dolphins if in a tie break situation, partly because of the jets, and them being winless. So NO, No way, Never.

If Pittsburgh loses two more games, or just this week against Cinci, then we will be looking to win EVERY game so that we play them for the Division in Week 17.

Every single week, we will look to go 1-0. That includes against the Jets. Bank on it.

No way we sit players. Nothing will be clinched in week 16. Also, most tiebreakers for seeding (even if we have a playoff spot locked) have conference record high on the list, and we're actually a little behind the eight-ball in that regard, mostly because we've been feasting on the NFC (L)east...

All signs say Gase is out after the season, your future will certainly be brighter once that happens. Good luck in the draft and 2021.

Personally I'd take Sam Darnold over Trevor Lawrence, at least today.

2. The Jets are not the worst team in the NFL to hope wins, I think it's the Chargers, at least today.

It has to suck facing the Patriots twice the last 20 years.

From an outsiders perspective, it also seems you guys are getting healthy at the right time. For the most part roster looks pretty much back at full health--

The Chargers are not the worst team. They are just stuck with a crappy clueless coach. They do have talent and a lot of their losses have been by 1 score.

My bestie is a Chargers fan, so I have to watch a lot of their games.
They got so lucky picking Herbert on their first try at finding a new QB after Rivers. Herbert is legit.

Also, Ekler is good, and Bosa. They have a lot of pieces. Just need a better coach.

How can anyone believe the Steelers would lose to the Bengals, when the Bengals went all in on Burrow, who had a devastating injury.
Replaced the back up, Finley, with a Forgetable player, within one week of facing the prospect of Having Finley as the starter,
and then the Forgetable player got hurt, almost immediately, and they are back to Finley.

While on the other side, Ben is healthy. I mean. He is like Jason from Friday the 13th. (Even Mason, and Duk would be the greater Qb that day.)

The pats final 4 are the Rams, Dolphins, Bills and Jets...

And that dolphins game is at the Dolphins... where belicheck is notoriously terrible at.

The pats aren't getting to 10-6 this year.

The Phins have the Chiefs, Pats, Raiders and Bills

I doubt they get to 11-5

The bills play the steelerd Broncos Pats Dolphins.

The dolphins, bills and pats have to beat each other up to end the season.

The bills also have the most difficult remaining 4 games of the season.


I still think it will could be 3 in the north playing in the playoffs.

Truly - this is all anyone would ever need to read alongside the hysteria over the Browns play off chances to decide not to pay attention to your hyperbole.

1. Browns are 9-3. Enjoy that because looking at every negative post you write before every game, you NEVER in a MILLION years expected to be 9-3.

2. There are literally 100's of permutations that get the Browns to a playoff birth after losing to the Ravens. Why have an aneurism over it?

3. As Purp said - there have been and will be way, way, way more sucky things the Browns can acomplish than missing the playoffs this year.

Thank you for the new sig.

a win over Baltimore does clinch a playoff berth for us.