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I could be wrong tho LOL, I'm always open to that possibility.

I think outsiders look at our games, and they see that we've played some close games against bad teams. Our point differential is horrible for an 8-3 team.

But, if you really watch most the games we have won, you know they follow a pattern: we are usually up 2 scores in the 4th quarter, then we let the other team score late to get within 1 score, and then we salt the game away with Hunt and Chubb.

I know the score looks close, but I've felt we've been in pretty good control of all the games we've won (the exception being the 2nd Bengals game). Heck, if Chubb scores at the end of the Texans game, we probably win that game by 2 scores.

If we win the turnover battle, and we can run the ball, we can hang with any team in this league. Once Berry gets the defense to an elite level next offseason, we will be very "dangerous," in the words of Baker.

When you lose 2 games by a combined 76-13.. you are never going to overcome that.

Devil's advocate would say that we could have beaten any two of the cupcake teams we faced by the same combined score to overcome it...

Perhaps. Two games stand out, the Cowboys and the Colts as games where we had 3 or 4 score leads but then allowed the games to get much closer toward the end.

Our defense isn't good enough to hold many teams to 1 or even 2 scores.. the only times we did was when the weather was so bad that it was difficult for us to score a lot of points. And our offense is pretty conservative when we play with a lead..

This team has taken a giant step this year in just learning how to win, we will learn how to build and hold big leads next year.

Yep. And I'm good with all of that. Would love to be the underdog all the way to the Superbowl. Took a trip over to the Titans message board this week and read about the point dif and our suspect defense, over and over...

After we beat the Titans it will be "yeah, but that's just one team", "every dawg has it's day", etc, etc...

After we beat the Ravens: "Yeah, but they've been decimated, blah, blah, blah..."

Keep winning ugly and let the detractors detract -- until they can no more.

As long as we can keep winning I don't care how ugly it is. Woody Hayes won with three yards and a cloud of dust. I was fine with that then and I'd be fine with that now.

I agree ... the good news is, with Chubb it’s more like 11 yards and a cloud of dust haha

And that "left hook" intimidation factor, was it a left or a right?
What times, a 60 year old could beat up a 20 year old and call it, discipline.

(anyone who doesn't know, see, Woody Hayes got mad that another teams player was returning a turnover or similar play, along the sidelines, right in front of Coach Hayes who was built like Lou Holtz, or Mike Dewine, but with stones, and reached out and grabbed the guy and punched the football player right in front of all, as the play ended, or to end it; And that's how he lost his job.

( I probably have this all wrong as I was somewhere between negative 4 and +4 years not born yet/old, at the time.)
(But I saw it later, twice or once in history specials, and Man did the locals talk about it back then,

to them losing Woody Hayes as coach would be like losing a general in wartime.

The guy was on the other team - discipline - LOL.

The Clemson backer should have pounded his sorry old ass.

Woody should have punched his QB for throwing the pick.

I think the LB's name was Charles Beaumont. I'd have to look it up. It was Charles Bauman. Close

*updating again

we are still on pace to get into the playoffs from what I expected


We should win 6/8 of these games (2 more to go)

Houston/won
Philly/won
NYG
Jacksonville/won
Jets
Cin/won
Las Vegas/lost
Pitt


We will need to win 1 game against these teams to get in the playoffs. *accomplished +1

Indy/won
Pitt/lost
Baltimore
Tenn/won

I would expect that 10-6 gets us in the playoffs as the 7 seed.


Seems like we can lock up a playoffs spot with a win over Balt now that we have the advantage over Tenn

As of during the broadcast today, we can clinch a spot Week 14.... so, yeah, I think that would be a win over Baltimore clinches a playoff berth for us.

and as things currently stand, that first playoff game would be @Tennesee, lol

Can clinch? "Can?"

If Balt loses Tuesday and to Cleveland.
If the Raiders, Colts and Dolphins lost toady (they did not).

We cannot clinch next week. There was a moment (about 15 minutes) where the possibility existed. But even if e win next week, the Titans and Colts could win out and go 11-5. Raiders could win out and go 11-5 (even at 10-6 they tie-break Cleveland). The Dolphins can still lose another game and go 11-5.

Earliest clinch is now week 15.

The Raiders play the Colts next week, so all three (Colts, Raiders, Titans) teams cannot win out. Three teams have to jump ahead of us for us to not clinch a spot.

A thought just occurred to me...

what happens if we win our next game and PIT loses their next game? We're 10-3... they are 11-1...

I know a lot unlikely things would still have to happen, but there's enough football left. I think the possibility of making a push for the Division Title is worth keeping on the back, back burner.

I just want to beat the Ravens next week and have Baker play well doing it.

If Pitt starts to lose games, it becomes a real possibility.

I'd say that we need to win out for it to matter, BUT it could be really interesting on the tie breakers if they have two losses going into Week 17 and then we beat them. I think they'd still get it on Division record, though, so we need them to have the same number of losses as us by Week 17.... I don't think that can happen.

yeah they have beaten the Ravens twice

Go Colts we have the tie breaker on them not the Raiders

if the Raiders lose to the Colts, they still have the tie-break on us.

That's a terrifying thought...what if the Raiders tied the Colts, lol.

Just playing around really, but we can't clinch until week 15.

Then, in week 17,

Just before kickoff?

2 MILLION Browns fans storm Cleveland Browns Stadium to demand attendance, and make the Oh. St. Hwy. Pat. bring them each out in handcuffs, for trespassing, 1 by 1.

The Browns next face the Ravens at home Dec. 14 on Monday Night Football. Cleveland lost to Baltimore in the season opener 38-6. With a victory, Cleveland would boast its best record in 51 years.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/3046...-winning-season

I'm pumped.

With the never-ending two weeks of delayed games, Baltimore should have Lamar Jackson back Tuesday (who says a positive covid tests means you have to miss two games).

I want our revenge against a full-strength Ravens squad.

I don't care if the Ravens are full strength and certainly don't hope for it.

Browns don't have Odell.

and in 2014, week 17 the Ravens didn't exactly care the Browns were playing Connor Shaw at Qb? Browns almost won that one.

Just let the Ravens fall out of the playoff race, maybe the Cowboys will beat them, the Cowboys will be fighting for their only playoff hope in that game.

With the Giants winning it's the last chance for the Cowboys to control their own destiny for the chase to win that worst divisions' division title.

Some other AFC Teams remaining schedule

Indy Colts (4 games remaining)
Raiders, Texans, Steelers, Jags

Raiders (4 games remaining)
Colts, Chargers, Dolphins, Broncos

Ravens (5 games remaining)
Cowboys, Browns, Jags, Giants, Bengals

steelers (5 games remaining)
Washington, Bills, Bengals, Colts, Browns

Dolphins (4 games remaining)
Chiefs, Pats, Raiders, Bills

If we beat the Ravens or Steelers we’re probably in.

If we lose to both we’re gonna need some level of help

Despite what ESPN Radio keeps telling me, the Colts did not take back control of the division from the Titans today, the Titans still lead the division.

Both teams are 8-4

First tie break head to head they split.

next tie break, division record against the AFC South.

Colts improved to 2-2 today with a division win.
Titans remain the same today not playing a division game with a 3-1 record.

Each have 2 remaining division games, each play the Jaguars and the Texans one more time.

The Difference occurred in week #2 where the Jaguars got their only win so far on the year, beating the Colts.

8-4, 8-4, The Titans still lead the division.

edit: This particular tie break occurs because it's a tie involving Two Teams Within the SAME division.

As of right now, Kornacki stated PFF said we have a 97% chance of making the playoffs

Some other AFC Teams remaining schedule

Indy Colts (4 games remaining)
Raiders, Texans, Steelers, Jags - I see 2-2

Raiders (4 games remaining)
Colts, Chargers, Dolphins, Broncos - I see 2-2

Ravens (5 games remaining)
Cowboys, Browns, Jags, Giants, Bengals - I see 4-1

steelers (5 games remaining)
Washington, Bills, Bengals, Colts, Browns - I see 4-1

Dolphins (4 games remaining)
Chiefs, Pats, Raiders, Bills - I see 1-3

Browns (4 games remaining)
Ravens, Giants, Jets, Steelers - I see 2-2

Titans (4 games remaining)
Jaguars, Lions, Packers, Texans - I see 3-1

Would look like this:
Steelers 15-1
Browns 11-5
Titans 11-5
Ravens 10-6
Colts 10-6
Raiders 9-7
Dolphins 9-7

Just how I see it.

Anyone else notice that the NFC #4 seed is the 5-7 NYG?

Beat the Ravens, assures us of finishing 2nd in the division. Big first step.

Jets tanking on the final play by a coach basically begging to get fired didn't help.

The Giants game isn't the gimme it looked like it was 5 or 6 weeks ago. They are playing pretty good football at the moment

None of them are gimme's... but, holy smokes, we have us a COACH that can game plan.

Everyone came into this game expecting a showdown of the best runners in the NFL and instead Stef dialed up a fireworks show through the air, and the Titans were so focused on shutting down our run game and selling out so hard on it, that we tore them a new one. Stef knew that the Belichick tree goes to take away your strength, so he used it as bait


So, I think that as we continue to grow the offense we will see us be able to dictate more to teams like the Giants, and hopefully the Ravens.

Spot on.

The coaching is very competent.